1.Built-in OCR PDF converter for PBB.

2.Better integration of the rest of my library into the Guides without me using a self custom collection. (I'm don't know how to put those rules together, neither more than half Logos users).(YOU make the collections NOT us)

3.Make Vyrso resources into Logos's resources. (without custom collection, YOU do the collections)

4.Make the drop down for parallel resource stretchable.

Not sure how I end up being the first to respond to many of your posts, but there it is. I also hesitate to be first because I'm sure you want upbeat, forward-looking ideas. Sorry...decidedly retrograde here. (Ah. good...others snuck in while I was typing.)

Despite Bradley's "It is finished!" pronouncement for notes, I don't see what I'm looking for. Granted, I don't have L6 yet, and I will certainly take a look when I have the chance, but I'm pretty sure the things I want aren't baked into the pie. And User Voice is broken for me--has been for a while. On top of that, I also realize I am beating a very dead horse...even the flies have flown the coop. You've already shot down most of the things I find critical for daily use. But I will go ahead and take the time to screenshot as many of the issues and reasons for them as I can one last time. But it will have to wait until tomorrow, it's too late tonight.

I will say this. While there are a few nifty things you have come out with since L3, I would permanently trade every single feature and data set and search option Logos has created since then in order to get notes to work like they do in L3 (with some minor additional tweaks thrown in). I realize I can't say that notes are more important than search ability, since search abilities generate note fodder, but at least for me, not having a highly utilitarian note function makes the search function nearly worthless. I will attempt to show why and how L3 gets the job done so well tomorrow.

Bob, I am very happy you are so willing to pay attention to uservoice, but my feeling is that a very small percentage of users is actually using the tool. It might be an idea to have some action or promotion to motivate people to use uservoice. That would give more accurate information on what users want and it would give many users a place to voice their ideas.

I've mentioned it in previous forums and on user voice but since you asked I guess I can re-post it here (I thought Ask the Author was going to fill this need but as far as I can tell it only provides a way to dialogue with the author and doesn't give me the information I'm looking for):

Almost every reference book I buy has a brief author bio on either the back cover or inner jacket. This info may contain the titles of other books written by the author, their education, hobbies, etc. This info is especially helpful when reading a work by an author you aren't familiar with. I assume that almost every book Logos publishes (at least that's been written in the last 50 years or so) would have this excerpt.

Why not include it as a section in the Resource Information window for each book? For older works you could have a general bio for well known authors like Plato, Anselm, etc. This would be especially helpful as I read through things like commentaries which have different volumes written by different authors. Some authors I know, some I don't. I'd like to be able to read the same bio I can see on the back of the print edition.

On most of the product pages I look at I can see that Logos already has this author information. It usually appears in the "About" section on the product page when you are ordering a new book. (For example, scroll to the bottom of this page to read about author Wayne Grudem.)

The information is already there and Logos already has it, I'd just like to see that same information applied to the resource information window in my resources. In my personal opinion that would be more helpful than say "Search Fields" and "Indexes" which already appear there (at least for non-power users.)

There are many resources that have not been updated to work with version 6, from previous builds

it would be good to have a place on the website where we could enter the titles of resources that do not work correctly because of changes in new versions of the software

this has got to be a positive way of identifying problematic resources that could even cause instability in the programme due to links not working correctly to other resources due to changes,

And after you've helped us prioritize the Logos 6.x path, post your crazy / wild / big idea for Logos 7 here. Should we have a new data set? A completely new feature area? More videos? More teaching material? A cuneiform word processor? Scanned images of original manuscripts? Manual categorization of theologians? Bible words tagged by emotive impact?

I would like to have the "today's readings" on the homepage be available as a window panel so that I don't have to switch between the homepage and my Bible for each reading.

I don't think that my suggestion should be on user voice because it has already been planned (or at least discussed) by Faithlife. But I would love to see the PBB store that was at one time in the rumor mill implemented.

Wait -- I already know the answer! "Fix annoying-thing in Logos 6 first!" :-)

And we will! Multiple Logos 6.x releases are already scheduled, and you can help us prioritize improvements, optimizations, etc.

Visit http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6, which has just been updated to reflect Logos 6 changes.

Re-distribute your votes! Sort by 'Hot' or 'New' to look for things that aren't already at the top of the list.

We really do pay attention to UserVoice -- it's one of the best ways to get your request to the top of our list.

And after you've helped us prioritize the Logos 6.x path, post your crazy / wild / big idea for Logos 7 here. Should we have a new data set? A completely new feature area? More videos? More teaching material? A cuneiform word processor? Scanned images of original manuscripts? Manual categorization of theologians? Bible words tagged by emotive impact?

It would be great if you would do with Systematic Theologies what you have done with Ancient Literature in the passage guide.  Under the Topic Guide, and/or under the Factbook, please put a link to all the sections of the Systematic Theologies that are in your library for the given topic.

(For Logos 6, I wish you would put the NET Bible Notes under the Textual Variant Notes.)  

Great job on Logos 6!

Blessings,

Kevin 

Wait -- I already know the answer! "Fix annoying-thing in Logos 6 first!" :-)

And we will! Multiple Logos 6.x releases are already scheduled, and you can help us prioritize improvements, optimizations, etc.

Visit http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6, which has just been updated to reflect Logos 6 changes.

Re-distribute your votes! Sort by 'Hot' or 'New' to look for things that aren't already at the top of the list.

We really do pay attention to UserVoice -- it's one of the best ways to get your request to the top of our list.

And after you've helped us prioritize the Logos 6.x path, post your crazy / wild / big idea for Logos 7 here. Should we have a new data set? A completely new feature area? More videos? More teaching material? A cuneiform word processor? Scanned images of original manuscripts? Manual categorization of theologians? Bible words tagged by emotive impact?

1. A super-intelligent and super-intuitive unified Search box that will understand what I'm looking for in plain English, and decide for me what type of search (Basic, Bible, Everything, Morph, etc) will best satisfy what answer the user is looking for.  Basically a super-Fuzzy search on steroids, as smart as Google search.  Maybe even combine the generic Search box with the Command box (relax the strict syntax needed for the Command box to recognize more human language-like commands) e.g "stop receiving beta updates" "open my top 3 bibles to Jn 3:16" "define ectypal" "what are the Greek words that translate to love in English" "what's an omer". In other words, build a Google-style single search box for the non-technical lay user to direct them to the right resources, guides, tools that are currently powerfully built into Logos 6 but are overwhelming and daunting to discover, learn, and use effectively.

2. Make the Windows desktop app as touch friendly as the iOS apps, especially fix scrolling problems and make highlighting as easy and intuitive with finger without a mouse or stylus. (I hope this will be in the 6.x roadmap and we don't have to wait till Logos 7).

3. Massively migrate useful new features from Logos 6 to the mobile apps And make the mobile apps more functional offline.

4. Rethink the Faithlife Groups platform and make it more useful to yhe broader Logos user base beyond the minority who currently use it for private small Bible study groups. Thinking along he lines of the YouVersion / Facebook worldwide connectivity paradigm rather than the church small group usage.

5. Radical rethink of the constant download / reindexing paradigm. I know I can turn off automatic downloads but can the reindexing be rethought through so that it happens so quickly (a few seconds) for most machines in most cases (e.g. after downloading a couple of Vyrso books) that it can simply be done in the background without notifying the user or slowing down the machine.

Peter

Bob,

Here are my initial thoughts:

New Features:

• Discourse Analysis / Arcing
• Savable Floating Layouts that retain their layout (instead of opening on a single tab) and their linking

Improved Features:

• Thank you for making notes applicable to more than one verse in L6. If you could give us the option to visually show those connections (some sort of arrow linking the thought I'm representing in the note) that would be awesome.
• Allow ePub import to PBB.

Resource specific note files would be great. When you open a resource and add a note it knows you want to use the note file X. 

Give us a way to suggest links like we can suggest typo fixes. You can have a person approve of them and then update the resources accordingly.

I would be delighted to get one thing out of Logos 7:  SPEED. 

I run Logos on a Macbook Pro 2.3 GHz i5 with 16 GB RAM and SSD drive.  Logos is the only thing I run on this machine that I would characterize as really slow.  Really slow.

And after you've helped us prioritize the Logos 6.x path, post your crazy / wild / big idea for Logos 7 here. Should we have a new data set? A completely new feature area? More videos? More teaching material? A cuneiform word processor? Scanned images of original manuscripts? Manual categorization of theologians? Bible words tagged by emotive impact?

Here are some ideas.

Information Pane

I would like to see a pretty major overhaul of the information pane. Here are the more important ones:

1. The “definition” feature should have the option to show the glosses from the “Lemma” section of the Bible Word Study Guide of the dictionary you have chosen defines the terms. Currently it just shows the beginning of the definition as it appears in the dictionary, which in most cases is useless, as you can’t actually see the definition. This is especially the case with Hebrew lexicons, which tend to begin each definition with information etymology and related ANE words. Note that this is different from the already present option to show a "Gloss", as that Gloss is not taken from your highest prioritized lexicon.
2. For Hebrew verbs summary information (again, according to the dictionary you chose) should include brief definitions for the Qal, Piel, Hiphil, etc. forms, indicating QAL: definition; PIEL: definition, etc. For a great example of what I'm talking about, cf. BibleWorks.
3. I would like to choose the order of elements in the information pane. For example, I like having the “Translated” section, but don’t want it to be on top.
4. Let me turn off the “Clause” database information in the Information pane.
5. I would like to see “root” information in the information pane (i.e., a brief summary of the root(s), with the words from that root and their glosses). 
6. Please give an option in Hebrew to stop looking up attached definite articles, prepositions, pronouns, etc. Logos already knows which word is the primary word, because when you double click on a word with attached articles, prepositions or pronouns it always looks up the main word. I don’t EVER want to see attached definite articles, prepositions, or pronouns in the information pane, they just make it so that you can’t actually see the definition and information you are interested in.
7. Add Syriac as a supported language for the Info pane!

Flash Cards

1. Each Lemma should have a column which says how many times that Lemma appears in the OT / NT respectively. If you want to, make it personalized for every version (e.g. NA27, NA28, , or just pick one version and go with it (such as the NA28 and BHS), but this information has to be there for this option to be useful.
2. It should be easy to filter by how many times the Lemma appears (for example, if I know that I have memorized all the words in the NT that appear 25x or more, and now I am studying Luke chapter 10, I should easily be able to filter the vocabulary of Luke 10 by words that appear in the NT 24x or fewer).
3. Each lemma should include the form that is actually studied in universities. For example, the form that is learned of the word λογος is λογος, ου (well… with the accents added in), with the nominative and genitive forms both included, the genitive form being shortened. Similarly, adjectives are learned with the nominative masculine, feminine, and neuter form. Verbs in Hebrew are learned (at least optionally) with the more common of the QAL, PIEL, HIPHIL, etc. definitions, while verbs in Greek (at least optionally for the more common irregular verbs) should include the 6 principle parts.

Search

1. Most importantly, create an advanced search builder. I would imagine this working with "columns" that are connected by search operators like AND / OR / WITHIN, etc. Each column could begin with a dropdown that lets you choose the type of info (text, Milestone, PassageList, Morph, Clause, greek word, hebrew word, etc.). After choosing from the dropdown, depending on the option chosen, other boxes would appear to the right that would correspond to the options of that particular option / search extension.
2. Create search extensions for Morph and Clause to make this possible.
3. New search operator, “IGNORE” – Recently I wrote a 250+ page index of the Liturgy of the Hours, Roman Missal, etc., using Logos to run searches. I oftentimes found that I wanted to exclude certain phrases from my search… phrases that included words that I was searching for! For example, I am searching for the term “Christ” but I want to exclude the common phrase “Christ Our Lord”. If I run the search for Christ ANDNOT “Christ Our Lord” it would ruin my search results. I might have 100 hits for “Christ” in an article, but with just 1 “Christ our Lord” hit that entire article would disappear, along with the 100 true hits that I was interested in. What I would like to see is an operator that allows me to “IGNORE” the hits for “Christ Our Lord”, without disqualifying an article that has those hits. Note that this problem does not normally arise when searching the Bible, as the biblical verse are so short that ANDNOT almost never is problematic. But once Logos is used to start systematically searching resources with longer articles this “IGNORE” feature becomes important.
4. An easier way to include accents in searching (could be taken care of in an advanced search builder).
5. After running a search, you can navigate through the search results by pressing Alt+Down or by clicking the up and down arrows, having selected “Search Result” from the dropdown on the locator bar. When you navigate to the next search hit, Logos scrolls the resource so that the search hit is on the top line of the screen. This does not allow you to see any context of the search result. I would like Logos to navigate instead to the hit result, but with about 2 lines of text above it. (Note: as I have been creating the book “Fulfilled in Christ” I have gone through literally 100s of thousands of search results using this method. I can’t tell you how many thousands of times I have had to scroll up just to see a line or two of text about the search hit and see what it was saying)

Universal Passage Guide

The Passage Guide is limited to just the Bible. We need a universal Passage Guide, that doesn't care if you are searching in the Bible or elsewhere. Think Noet, just make sure the new features for Noet make it into Logos and Verbum!

Cited By Tool

This is already a mini-universal Passage Guide. Hopefully this will be done before Logos 7, but this tool needs a major overhall. This has already been discussed so much on here I don't think I need to go into details.

Bible Words Study Guide

1. Link Set – I want to be able to add the Bible Word Study Guide to a link set. The reason is very simple. I find the “root” report of the BWS to be extremely useful for understanding the semantic range of a word. I have created a custom BWS with only the root report. I would like to add that BWS to a link set together with my Hebrew / Greek dictionaries. When I double click on a word, the dictionary navigates to it, and so would the BWS root report if it could be linked to the dictionary.
2. Send Hyperlinks Here – When I right click on a word and generate a BWS, normally I want it to generate in the same BWS window I already have open. I want to be able to indicate that with the “Send hyperlinks here” option on the BWS, so as to avoid having to close every BWS window I open.

Scientific Commentaries and Link Sets

Anyone who tries to use scientific commentaries such as Word or Anchor or Hermeneia together with a “Link Set” in Logos quickly gets quite frustrated. There are numerous comments about this all over the forums. The reason is that the scientific commentaries comment the same passage in three or four different places – first they present a translation, then they comment the textual criticism problems, then they comment on the structure, then they comment on the meaning, etc. The “Link Set” tends to navigate to the first of these, which is oftentimes (maybe even normally) not what you are interested in…

I suggest that you create a dataset that marks up the different types of sections in the Commentary, and then, when multiple types of sections are available, allow us to prioritize those sections, so that the Link Set will go to the "Notes" section by default, or the "Textual Criticism" section, or whatever section we prefer.

Print / Export

When selecting the options to export to Word, include footnotes when they are displayed in Logos.

Copy and Paste

Add the “Setting” to “Copy Abbreviations” (or simply stop copying them when copying and pasting with the setting “Copy Footnotes”) – It is extremely irritating when copying scientific words that you copy into Word and you have, in addition to the footnotes which you wanted to copy, a repeating list of about 20 abbreviations per page, each one taking up one line as if they were footnotes!!

Address bar of Greek and Hebrew Dictionaries

When typing in the address bar of Greek and Hebrew Dictionaries, it should transliterate by default for you into the respective language. Ideally it would search for both the transliterated and the non-transliterated results, so that you could type in something like “Introduction” and it would find it, but you could also type in something like “dbr” and it would find דבר. Note that currently not even typing h: or g: works!! You have to actually change your keyboard layout to type in a word in the address bar of a Hebrew or Greek dictionary!

New Tab

The improvements in 5.2 of the New Tab are nice. I suggest that above the icons which display your favorite resources, or above the list of similar resources, there by a little text box. When you begin typing it in, it begins filtering your Library + all other things you might want to open (like search pane, information pane, etc.). 

Library Columns

I would like to see the original date of publication of every work, and be able to easily filter, create collections by it, etc. Useful for creating collections of Church Fathers, Medieval Writings, Commentaries from 1900-1950, Commentaries from 1950-Present Day, etc. I am particularly interested in the date the original work was originally published, but it would be nice to also see the date that the particular edition was also published (current publishing date indicates the date the reprint was published).

Free Books inside of Books and Articles inside of Journals

I would like to see books which are inside of books (such as the books which are inside of Schaff's Church Father Series) treated as books. Logos should know that such and such a book is inside of a larger book, and that info should be available for citation purposes, but for things like creating collections, search results, etc., it would be MUCH more useful to normally just see the book. For example, if I want to create a collection of books by "Justin Martyr" that is impossible currently, because his works are included in Schaff's volumes together with other works. 

Similarly, for articles normally what one is interested in is the article, the author, etc. Treating the article as a seperate book (with the info about the journal of course also available, even for the purpose of creating collections, etc.), would allow one to create a collection of articles by a certain author, etc.

Search results would also become much more relevant. Try running searches on Schaff's Church Father series. The results are something like "Chapter 3 from NPNFFE2". Totally irrelevant and not helpful. If the books were treated as real books, you would get results like "Chapter 2 of City of God by Augustine" etc.

Better Syriac Support

1. Information pane support
2. Morphologically tagged Leiden Peshitta

Glosses on all Greek / Hebrew / Syriac / Aramaic Morphologically Tagged Bibles

So many Bibles in these languages are morphologically tagged, but for whatever reason don't have the Glosses included, so you have to have the Info pane open. Add Glosses to all morph tagged Bibles.

Redesigned Guides and Files Menu

The "New" document or Guide should ideally just filter the right hand pane, which could include folders. Then, the right hand pane would offer contextually relevant options, based on the type of document or guide selected. So, a Passage List selection would offer the possibility to select a passage list in the right hand pane, and then run a search for it - allowing Logos to show off all these fancy new features.

Morphology Charts

These are a great idea, that I have long hoped for, but which I think were poorly implemented. They should display the Morph chart according to the standard textbook format (which would put, for example, the Nominative, Genitive, Dative, Accusative, and Vocative in a single column, and not in a single row). As well, they should indicate the "type" of morphological "pattern" that such and such a word follows, with a link to seeing that pattern with a word that is typically used by textbooks to illustrate the pattern.

Maps

Add data layers, such as altitude, cities, etc. that can be turned on or off.

Ideally include a 3D view.

Allow exporting custom maps

Online Media

All online media should have local resources with the thumbnails and metadata, to allow for integrated and quick searching and browsing. They should be placeholders for the downloadable media. When feasible, they should include low res versions for offline use. From a user interface point of view, it should be transparent to the user whether the image they are interacting with is online or offline, even if that difference is somehow indicated visually, or with different options, etc.

Documentation of Academic Resources

The sources, authors, and methodology used in the creation of all inhouse resources should be clearly marked, and easily available. This has generally been well done in the new stuff you have been producing, but older resources need to have the same treatment. Here I am thinking of things like the Morph databases, and other older resources that have little or no documentation.

Hi Bob,

First, thanks for a great product. Second, I'm not a programmer, nor do I play one on TV. Third, I have been involved in the design of a few financial systems from a user standpoint. Perhaps what I'm about to say is in place, and I just don't see it. From my experience as a user, I know there were many times when we would ask for something (Logos UserVoice) and the programers would come back with one of 4 replies, (1) that feature is going to cost $$$$$, and I would reply, "its only worth $$ to me, so forget it, (2) you are asking for XX, have you considered doing YY instead, and I would, yes or no, (3) it just can't be done, or (4) here is your request.

I don't see this type of interaction. My concern is you may be spending too much time ($$$$$$$) on taking care of the squeaky wheels in the user community, when it may not be worth it for the rest of the user community, nor for your company. Just my thoughts.

In addition to the other PBB requests, a more robust PBB editor would be really helpful.  The macros that I've borrowed from other users, as well as additional that I've made myself, have been very helpful for creating PBB's in Word.  But I also know that Logos has the ability to pick out non-milestoned scripture references.  So I picture an editor that automatically scans for potential milestones and makes suggestions, allowing users to create the best PBB available.

For example, if I'm working on importing a public domain commentary on Luke, I might "ask" the new, more robust PBB editor to find all references to passages in Luke, and allow me to select which ones to add milestone references to (and of course, I'd click "yes" or "no" and it would add the milestone automatically).  

The PBB is such an important feature - especially for the few of us who are still saving just for the starter base package and have no realistic hope of purchasing something larger in the near future.  (Though I do make several smaller purchases on a semi-frequent basis).  I would really like to see time spent on it to make it more valuable.

1) Continue making awesome new datasets and features that we don't realize we need until you "invent" them

2) Continue blazing the trail of datasets and features that have never been done before and open up entirely new ways of studying and analyzing the text.

3) Continue updating existing resources with the new tagging and linking of the new features

4) Continue Reverse-Interlinearizing more Bible translations

5) If there is a way to come up with making relevant nuggets in Monographs as "discoverable" as you have started making them in Journals and Sermons, that'd be awesome...not sure that's possible, but I think Monographs are the only resource type left that aren't somehow discoverable/curated/etc.

6) Interactive Media, videos, and teaching material (I don't have L6 yet [upgrading next week]...but I'm really excited about the interactive media features)

I would love the ability to group and/or categorize my layouts. 

Indexing databases on the end-user's PCs is wasteful, annoying, and too-easily breakable. Revamp indexing entirely such that all resources come pre-indexed, and individual resource indices are then collated into a master index on the user's computer. I realize this would be a major change - but something's gotta change here.

Performance. Performance. Performance. Now that .NET has been open sourced under the liberal MIT license, I'm expecting big things on the Mac side.

Thank you for the opportunity to share these suggestions.  I request Logos prioritize any update which would help reduce eye strain and benefit the healthy vision of its users.  Such updates would include but not be limited to the following: 

Logos 6:    

• Allow users the option of decreasing the brightness level and adjusting the color shade of any current Bible book cover icon.  Several Bible cover icons that were recently changed for Logos 6 (especially the ESV and LEB) are now so bright they are preventing me from comfortably focusing on the Bible text and are causing eye strain.  If it would be easier for Logos to accomplish, please simply restore all Bible icons that were recently changed back to their original Logos 5 appearance (design, color, and brightness level).  A third option would be to allow users to hide or "turn off" Bible book cover icons when the resource is opened.  (In addition to Bibles, there are several other resource icons to which this issue applies, but Bibles are a higher priority.)
• Allow users the option of customizing the background color of individual resource panels and the font color that appears within them.  In my opinion, the current “White” background color is uncomfortably bright.  Among potential color options, I recommend various darker shades of white, a lighter shade of “Paper”, and a night mode with black background and green font.
• Allow users to customize the background color within the pop-up window which appears when the mouse hovers over a cross reference within Bible text as well as the color, style, and size of the font used within the window.  Also, please include the option of increasing the overall size of this window.
• Allow users to customize the panel background color and font color, style, and size within the Power Lookup Tool.
• Allow users to set a highlighter color of their choice to display Search engine results.  I realize these highlights are intended to stand out within the text, but the current solid yellow/orange color is irritating for my eyes (especially when there are multiple hits in close proximity).  This issue is most evident with Search results for the “Library Results” section within “Factbook” searches which highlight nearly the entire first paragraph of the article.  This is visually overwhelming and in my opinion, unnecessary.
• Allow users to set a highlighter color of their choice to display the “Links to Open Panels” visual filter.  Currently this visual filter is defaulted to a solid dark pink color which at times can be visually overwhelming.
• When using “Print/Export”, please allow users to increase or decrease the font size and customize the font style of any resource (especially Bibles).  In Logos 5, I used Print/Export often to avoid hours of staring at a desktop computer screen.  This feature also allowed me to get up and walk around while reading printed text rather than setting for prolonged periods; however, I am no longer able to do this because the default font size in Logos 6 is uncomfortably small for my eyes and is unable to be changed.  Please also restore the option of adding Bible notes (literal renderings, alternate translations, or explanations), without cross references, to the footnotes section at the bottom of the printed page.
• For the Copy Bible Verses tool, please allow users to add Bible notes without cross references to the footnotes section at the bottom of the page when exporting Bible chapters/passages to an MS Word document.

Logos Android App:

Please increase the font size for Bibles and all resources within the Logos Android App.  I have attempted to use this app on my Samsung Galaxy S-4, but the font scale slider will only adjust the font from microscopic to tiny to small.  The font would have to be significantly larger for this app to be of practical use for me.  Also, please provide font style options and increase the page turning speed of all resources within this app.  

Logos 7 Proposed Feature:

Please create an option to use a soft highlighter color of one’s choice which will highlight a particular Bible verse and scroll down (verse by verse) as one reads through the Bible. This verse highlighter would be controlled up or down by the keyboard arrow keys or the mouse wheel. (I have previously used this feature within WORDsearch and it significantly helped in reading text.)

Thank you!

My 2p worth:

Here, on a scale of 0 (lowest) to 10 (highest) is how I value enhancements.

10: Improve Stability
Logos crashes perhaps once per week for me, which is too much.

9: Improve Performance
Startup times of several minutes are too long, Logos seems to spend time synchronising my library every startup, then downloads and indexes. The orange circles that appear when navigating through a bible are very time-wasting in my workflow where I have a list of verses that I want to look up and copy – a couple of seconds each time to display orange circles is annoying. This also makes it slow to quickly move between passages if wanting to check something.

8: Improved Organisation of Library
Scrolling through a list of several thousand resources is almost impossible to do fruitfully. Collections help a little but I’d really like to see resources organised into expandable hierarchical folders like Windows Explorer that are put there by drag and drop. Ideally, this would be a view rather than a physical location so that I could have multiple logical organisations of resources (e.g. I might want to organise my commentaries by series, book, etc. There should be a way to choose the size of icon or list details much like windows explorer gives.

7: Improve Searching
Find better ways to get me the results I want and deprioritise those I don’t. Google seems to do a much better job at general searching with many more documents to cater for. LCV and the everything search are a good step forward but I’m concerned that they rely on Logos tagging and this may not be perfect. One thing in particular I would like is the automatic translation between British and American English in search so that, e.g. if I search for honour it would also find honor and vice versa.

6: Improvements to Android and Apple Apps
They are too difficult to use. I'd like to be able to read a bible with linked commentary easily or to read greek and have it look up in lexicons easily or show interlinears easily, much the same as in the desktop. Some of these are partly possible but don't work too well. I noticed that much less costly bible software can find things a lot quicker on mobile platforms.

1: Whizzy new features that aren’t immediately obvious to me why I need them.

0: Anything that requires the internet in order to work.

And after you've helped us prioritize the Logos 6.x path, post your crazy / wild / big idea for Logos 7 here.

A couple ideas would be:

1) A way to "lock" a panel so that Logos cannot automatically add any resources to it. Perhaps you have a library window or a set of Bibles that you don't want Logos adding more resources to, just click a "lock" button and Logos has to ignore them.

2) I am a user who has a separate highlight document for each resource I use. It would be nice to "tie" my highlight document to that resource so that I don't have to open the document each time I want to highlight in that resource.

Fuzzy search!

There is seriously no reason why I should be forced to go to Google to find what verse in the Bible says something like "do not stop meeting together" as I had to the other day. Logos found no hits in all of my Bibles.

Google found it as the first hit.

That is just embarrassing, and unacceptable IMO. Logos is a Bible Search program par excellence. That it can't do this (especially when Logos 3 could) is beyond unbelievable to me. I unfortunately do not have a full installation of Libronix on my computer anymore with all my resources to test this, but if anyone who does would like to confirm that it could find this particular phrase, I'd be glad for extra support to my frustration. Anyway, even if Logos had never been able to do this in the past, I'd be frustrated that it can't.

I know you'll say "but Google has so many more employees and money to index so many pages, and this is such a hard problem, and we don't want to do it at all if we can't do it well [no wait, you wouldn't say that latter thing; that isn't usually how you operate [:)] ], and..." However you run a Bible software company and searching in the Bible is Logos's specialty. So no excuses anymore, OK? Just do it!

Allow two or more copies of the Collections tab to be open at a time.

Wait -- I already know the answer! "Fix annoying-thing in Logos 6 first!" :-)

Not funny. I joined Logos at v4 and upgraded to 5 and 6 immediately they were released. After my experience of upgrading to L6 (blame it on Apple etc), I will not be upgrading to L7 for at leat 6 months to a year after its release. 

I will submit my ideas to user voice.

I would like to request more user friendly services for people in a group Bible study section including one finger Windows (and Android) Tablet touch with larger buttons on all platforms to get to Book, Chapter, and verse.

Please also speed it up....I had such lag yesterday....while leading a group it was very embarrassing.  (You know everyone is thinking - "Why doesn't he just open an actual Bible?")

Think of things users who do not read in Greek or Hebrew need please next time.

Finally, please make the front screen with an ad-free ability and pull from devotional material and books like it used to in previous version please.  I know I can make a layout but I should not have to.

More items like Not Your Average Bible Study and Abraham bible studies please.  Sell them as a cheap addon to your next iteration please.  I am desperate for one-off Bible studies please....good ones not geared exclusively for brand new unbelievers but also not forgetting them.  Serendipty Bible like materials would be nice!

Since you like to sell packages and addons lately - why not a very inexpensive mix of useful commentaries - call it Baptist Bible/Commentary or something.  I predict it would sell like hotcakes.  I haven't checked how its geared or authored yet but the OPENING UP series I used for Luke last night in Bible study was really a blessing. 

I continue to feel that Logos is not gearing things for us...well...lowbrow still-getting-educated types.  You would all clean up with a set of background commentaries and real simple expositional commentaries.  Partner inexpensively with those writing them please.  Better yet saddle up to Zondervan and please get the Ilustrated Background Commentary reduced in cost so more people can buy and use it please.

Sermon starter needs work too....most of us do NOT want/need to do topical sermons and this feature seems to assume we do.  Please imagine a first time seminarian getting up in the pulpit when you redesign this feature please.

Blessings and Merry Christmas,

Joshua In Rhode Island

And after you've helped us prioritize the Logos 6.x path, post your crazy / wild / big idea for Logos 7 here. Should we have a new data set?

I would love to see a data set tied to hymns and other such resources Logos already provides that would integrate into one of the guides (probably the Sermon Starter guide).

A completely new feature area?

I'd love to see a worship elements feature that would aid in worship planning. Although we don't use Proclaim, I'd expect this to be tightly integrated with it, but be located in the Logos environment and take advantage of Logos resources.

More teaching material? A cuneiform word processor? Scanned images of original manuscripts? Manual categorization of theologians?

The answer to all of those questions from me is "No."

Bible words tagged by emotive impact?

Could be interesting, depending on how "emotive impact" is defined and tagged. I suppose this would have to be done with respect to original language texts, and original cultural setting, rather than translations, since too often the emotive impact is lost in translation, or added by the translation. I would hope that many of the parables of Jesus would include "humor" as the emotive impact. But this gets complicated very quickly by both linguistic and cultural differences. It would almost become a kind of Bible background commentary, or rely heavily upon them.

In addition to what you brought up:

I'd love to see what you did with Psalms and Proverbs extended to Isaiah (for starters), and other poetic Biblical literature.

I would love to see the Topical stuff in all the guides be able to handle synonyms, and group by synonymous meaning. IMHO, I find the topical stuff to be the least helpful of all the stuff in the guides.

I would love to see Logos develop a base package or robust collection of material on Christian social justice, as well as something that targets some of the other remaining, as yet under-served streams of Christianity (Mennonites, e.g.).

I would love to see Logos develop a library management system that would allow us to manage our libraries in ways that parallel academic libraries (i.e., Library of Congress catalog system, Dewey Decimal, etc.). This would mean tagging all resources with these cataloging features, or developing an easy way for users to do so (based on downloadable, or cloud-based catalogs?).

[I did not read every post on this thread before posting this. So, if there is overlap, or a better way of stating some of these things, I defer.]

  I am not very smart in doing analytical work. I hope that you can continue to improve the abilities of the software to "read our minds."

   Logos is a high-powered piece of software. And I am not a total idiot, usually. But I am still only using a fraction of the capabilities of the program.

I think Logos should pay someone "like" Morris Proctor to do Morris-Proctor level videos for free. We've already invested so much in the program.

I realize that Faithlife does make videos to post on youtube. But I am asking for more, for better.

Wait -- I already know the answer! "Fix annoying-thing in Logos 6 first!" :-)

And we will! Multiple Logos 6.x releases are already scheduled, and you can help us prioritize improvements, optimizations, etc.

Visit http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6, which has just been updated to reflect Logos 6 changes.

Re-distribute your votes! Sort by 'Hot' or 'New' to look for things that aren't already at the top of the list.

We really do pay attention to UserVoice -- it's one of the best ways to get your request to the top of our list.

And after you've helped us prioritize the Logos 6.x path, post your crazy / wild / big idea for Logos 7 here. Should we have a new data set? A completely new feature area? More videos? More teaching material? A cuneiform word processor? Scanned images of original manuscripts? Manual categorization of theologians? Bible words tagged by emotive impact?

A cuneiform word processor, YES!!

More videos, YES!

Scanned images of original manuscripts, YES!

Latin tools and dataset. Latin bible word study. Eventual fully fleshed out language capabilities as we have in Hebrew and Greek. 

Cheers

I've already asked for the following navigational changes in Logos 6 and very much want to see them made there, but if hopes are dashed, then no later than Logos 7.

1)  Allow for a larger temporary pop-up window for scripture reference links. When hovering the mouse over a scripture reference link that has a range of verses, make the temporary pop-up window large enough to display all the verses in the link provided there is room on the screen to do so.  As it currently works, the size of the temporary pop-up window generally limits the display to just 3-5 verses (depending on verse length) even though there is plenty of room on the screen to display a temporary pop-up window large enough to display all the verses in the link.

2) Provide a larger pop-up window when right-clicking on a word in a resource. When right-clicking on a word, make the pop-up window large enough to eliminate the need to scroll through options in the pop-up window, provided there is room on the screen to do so.  As it currently works, every time I right-click on a word to get a definition, the option to get a definition is not visible in the pop-up window and requires scrolling to reach it, even though there is plenty of room on the screen for the pop-up window to display all options without having to scroll to see them.

3) Add "Highlight" and "Erase Highlight" options to the pop-up window displayed when right clicking on a word or a selected range of text. The highlighter used would default to your most recently selected highlighter, same as the current "Alt + K" keystroke shortcut does.  The erase highlight option would work the same as the "Ctrl + Shift + K" keystroke shortcut does.

4) Add "Undo" & "Redo" icons in the screen header area where you see Documents, Guides, and Tools. These would work like the "Ctrl + Z" and "Ctrl + Y" keystroke shortcuts do, although I would like to see them apply to highlighting which they don't currently do.

5) When doing a search from the "Help" panel, have all occurrences of the search term highlighted in the search results.

Personal Books improvement - such as making PB available on the iPhone / iPad;  PDF conversion; some help in dealing with footnotes; inclusion of audio / video in personal books.  Why audio / video in PB? 

Touch screen friendly interface!

Faster!

Thank you, Mr. Bob, for this wonderful study tool we call Logos Bible Software.  It has truly been a blessing to me over the last 20 years (or slightly more) that I have used it.  And you continue to amaze me.  We are never satisfied, of course. You have created an ever more demanding monster in us.

post your crazy / wild / big idea for Logos 7 here

Noticed a new feature in a competitor's product is dynamic interlinear.  The idea of choosing manuscripts and/or translations for interlinear lines is intriguing, especially when combined with highlighting, including visual filters.  Other lines could show tagging: speaker labels, literary type, ...

Related is expanding Personal Book Builder to allow interlinear resource creation.

Edit: competitor also has flex search so phrase “build houses” will yield results for “build houses,” “building a house,” and “the house that King Solomon built.”  Seems flex search is a kind of fuzzy search.  Extending original language root search metaphor to English synonyms would be appreciated so "build home" includes "construct house" results.

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Regarding reverse interlinears,

One thing I've noticed infrequently, is that sometimes a translation uses a non-standard manuscript (chooses a text variant), however the rev. int. doesn't always reflect the translation choice. It would be cool if those variants were taken into account in the rev. int. text for each specific translation. I realize this gets complicated when an OT translation chooses to follow the LXX, rather than a Hebrew text. There would have to be some way of noting that in the rev. int. for those translations as well.

It would also be pretty interesting then, to be able to compare the textual variants between translations.

How about customizable base packages? After having bought several different base packages, I now find Logos to be rather bogged down with stuff I would rather not have. It makes searches slow, indexing long, (at least, I assume that this contributes to these issues) and I find it hard to find the stuff I am actually looking for. I have been thinking about buying a new base package in L6, but in the package I am considering, I am only interested in about 20% of the resources in the package. Another 30% I am indifferent to, but the remain 50% I would really rather not even have on my machine, and it is such a pain to hide each resource I don't want to show up. I shudder to think how many unwanted resources I will have on my machine by L12. It would be nice if I had more control over what I buy in a base package.

Also, while I'm at it, how about pulling apart more of the commentary series? I find that when I am working on a particular portion of scripture, I will go to bestcommentaries.com and find a couple I would like to buy. At this point, I am willing to drop $50-$100. But then I find that I can only get that particular volume I would really like by buying the whole set for $500-$1500, and there is just no way that I can just drop that kind of cash. So I end up not buying anything.

Please make sure it offers one finger selection of book, chapter, verse lookups that works consistently across all platforms.

Also, how about a default One Bible and several commentaries layout that can be opened quickly and by default please.

I don't think anyone has mentioned the need for more resources in non-English languages.

I know the West is where the money is, but the East is where the future is.

Logos has transformed what I can do in terms of using original languages in sermon prep and research, imagine the impact on the kingdom if this software could be used in the same way by native speakers of Chinese, Arabic, Hindi, Russian...

A good starting point would be to at least have interlinear support for the Arabic Bible (Smith Van Dyke & Kitab Al Haya')

Sorry for joining in the discussion so late. Here are a few ideas that I think could be useful.

 3 new Logos Ideas

Logos 7? oh.... I am still recovering from recently buying Logos 6 and not understanding that not all levels had the same data sets - I thought the other levels just had more resources. My mistake entirely that I thought data sets could be added on without going up to other levels. My starter kind of became a dead end in a moment;=)
Don't get me wrong, I love Logos and am glad I was confused as I would never have gotten it had I realized. It was a lot of money as is and even more as I add commentaries etc.
So I guess I wish the pricing structure would be reviewed as some of us who are not Pastors/Teachers and so forth and do not need another 275 resources but would love to see the psalms or parables explorer or a timeline or atlas, even in a "lite" form ...can't hurt to dream!

Dorothy

Everything that's found to be useful in L6 without those items not found useful.  Also, a choice of language on home page (I'm not going to buy items in another language if they're already in English (well, maybe German excepted).  Ability to eliminate the verse of the day from the home page (is that supposed to be of some use?).

I would like to see the ability to show which books, etc. are already a part of one's collection when visiting the store.  The dynamic pricing is much appreciated, but with well over 9,000 resources, it is difficult to detect which resources are owned and which resources I would be purchasing as a result of the dynamic pricing.  This is especially true when there are over 100 resources included in a collection.  It seems like an inconvenience to compare the lists of resources that are a part of the collection to the resources that are already in my library.  Thank you for allowing me to voice this!

Michael Kahler