Questions about EEC
Does anyone know when the rest will be released? Or at least the ones that will be released next? I don't really trust the dates on the product page. Like Hebrews from Fanning would be awesome, but I just doubt that is going to be the case.
Also, I saw the page count is an estimated 782 for Jude. What about Ephesians?
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Ryan Robinson said:
I don't really trust the dates on the product page.
Trust it or not, it is the best information you are likely to get.
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[Y]Jack Caviness said:Ryan Robinson said:I don't really trust the dates on the product page.
Trust it or not, it is the best information you are likely to get.
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Matt Hamrick said:Jack Caviness said:Ryan Robinson said:
I don't really trust the dates on the product page.
Trust it or not, it is the best information you are likely to get.
Well, They've done a few posts previously giving some updates and I was hoping that maybe someone could give something of a update. I think the 1 & 2 Samuel was supposed to follow Jude and Ephesians pretty quickly, which is was what the product page shows. But, in there list, Hebrews by Fanning wasn't even mentioned which leads me to think that it isn't even close to being finished (one I was hoping would be coming soon).
Odd that anyone would give a thumbs up to the answer, even if correct. But, I get there has been some complaints about this. I'm not trying to complain, just wondering if someone at faithlife could give an update, even if it isn't much of one.
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I'd love to hear an update, too, if possible. I noted in another thread that quite a few volumes are "scheduled" to be released in the next 6 months or so according to the website. I'd love to have an idea of how accurate/realistic those estimates are at this point.
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Ryan,
Thanks for your questions. The next volume that is scheduled is 1 & 2 Samuel–it's currently in editing and should be out by the end of the year. There are three other volumes that have been authored and are in various stages of academic review: 1 & 2 Chronicles, Jeremiah, and Philippians.
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Jake Mailhot said:
Ryan,
Thanks for your questions. The next volume that is scheduled is 1 & 2 Samuel–it's currently in editing and should be out by the end of the year. There are three other volumes that have been authored and are in various stages of academic review: 1 & 2 Chronicles, Jeremiah, and Philippians.
Awesome and thanks for the reply.
Is that a typical time period for the editing process?
Thanks!
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Jake Mailhot said:
Ryan,
Thanks for your questions. The next volume that is scheduled is 1 & 2 Samuel–it's currently in editing and should be out by the end of the year. There are three other volumes that have been authored and are in various stages of academic review: 1 & 2 Chronicles, Jeremiah, and Philippians.
Great! I'd love to see some notice when any of these EEC volumes move from writing to review mode.
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Since none of them were mentioned, is it safe to assume that the remaining volumes that currently/still have 2015 dates will not be out in 2015? Will there be updates to the estimated release dates on the website to reflect this?
- 1 Peter (December 1, 2015)
- Hebrews (December 1, 2015)
- Hosea, Joel, Obadiah (December 1, 2015)
- Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah (December 1, 2015)
Thanks!
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Ron said:
Since none of them were mentioned, is it safe to assume that the remaining volumes that currently/still have 2015 dates will not be out in 2015? Will there be updates to the estimated release dates on the website to reflect this?
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My final installment on my pre-pub order for EEC has been paid.
I have received 10 volumes. That makes my current cost $75/vol.
The good news is that another 18 volumes are scheduled to be released over the next 12 months.
I can't remember how the original schedule looked, but I knew that a series like this always has many delays. Here we are years later with many TBAs.
It was interesting to think about Logos asking users to pre-pay to finance this series well in advance and now Logos has reduced its payment plan options because of the cash flow problems it creates. Hmmmmm.
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Sorry to hijack this thread and say something "treasonous", but I have a question related to EEC...
Is there any chance that EEC will be released to other Bible software platforms besides Logos/Faithlife platforms (such as Accordance, WORDsearch, etc.)?
Before people want to begin to tar and feather me, here's why I'm asking...
Most Faithlife/Logos/Lexham products I'd rather own "in Logos format". It makes sense to keep many of these products as "Logos exclusive" as it is a means to keep people investing in the Faithlife/Logos ecosystem (which I have invested HEAVILY in, over 8,000 books).
However...
When it comes to EEC, EEC is such an EXCELLENT commentary series, and it is a seriously needed series of commentaries in the academic field. Students, professors, etc., can seriously benefit from EEC, and the more volumes of EEC that can get in the hands of more people, the more that can benefit from this series. The academic world is in serious need of a current, scholarly, affordable (versus some of the other commentary series out there) series of technical commentaries for academic use. EEC is a solid answer to it from the volumes I've evaluated.
As long as the other vendors would cooperate, allowing EEC onto other Bible software platforms such as Accordance or WORDsearch would help get EEC into as many hands as possible, continue funding to help get future EEC volumes into production, and further help EEC cement itself as a new gold standard in academic level commentaries for evangelicals.
Thanks!Nathan Parker
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Nathan Parker said:
Is there any chance that EEC will be released to other Bible software platforms besides Logos/Faithlife platforms (such as Accordance, WORDsearch, etc.)?
Would that not put FL in the position of competing against themselves?
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No there is good president. Lifeway publishes holman broaden products but they do not restrict sales to only Wordsearch their own in house software. If Lexham allowed others to sell it, they would be receiving royalties and seeing a potential larger distribution. Now the question comes would WS or ACC or even OT be interested in it? Lexham has produced some high quality resources but not too sure there is a demand for them outside Logos circles. But broader distribution so multiple sources is a way to get more acceptance.
-Dan
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I imagine they are trying to make these more accessible by putting the commentaries into print. But, other softwares, I wouldn't expect that to happen personally.
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Dan made some good points in his post.
Here's some additional tidbits...
For starters, Lexham Press (and Kirkdale Press, another Faithlife/Logos publisher) is already producing their resources in some other platforms such as Kindle, while at the same time "competing" with those platforms such as Kindle on some scale. Vyrso is a "Christian eBook" store and while not completely competing head to head with Kindle by offering secular eBooks, Faithlife/Logos would rather us buy our Christian eBooks from Vyrso before buying them from Kindle or another format since it ties better into the Faithlife/Logos ecosystem. With that said, for die hard Kindle users who want to read books from Lexham Press or Kirkdale Press and have zero chance at investing in the Faithlife/Logos ecosystem, some of those books are available on Kindle where it makes sense for Faithlife/Logos to get those books into the hands of more readers.
In terms of most Lexham Press resources, I am perfectly fine with them remaining as a part of the Faithlife/Logos ecosystem, and in most instances, it makes perfect sense to keep them there. Runge's Discourse OT/NT is a Logos exclusive that makes sense to keep it tied to the Logos ecosystem. Even Lexham Bible Guides feel "made for Logos" and best fit into the Logos ecosystem and would feel out of place on other platforms.
The only resource in this case that is different, is EEC. Here's why...
EEC is clearly trying to position itself as the next "gold standard" in commentaries of its scale. From what I've seen of it so far, it clearly has the potential to do so. As you can tell by another forum thread where I've been asking around about technical/critical commentaries, EEC is a solution that, from what I've seen of it so far, checks all the boxes of a "gold standard" commentary I could use as my main "go to" commentary and recommend to students for years to come. It's current, evangelical, technical/critical/academic, in-depth, handles the language issues well, yet has a clean format that is more approachable than some commentaries. It's also more affordable than other commentaries of its sale (students can pick up the entire set for $700ish, then there's the individual volumes, the fact that Logos does the giveaways and 99 cent sales at time, and the ability to rent it on Logos Cloud starting at $9/month is handy as well).
In order for EEC to be the next "gold standard" commentary, the only thing holding it back is platform access. It's the one resource that if Faithlife/Logos and Accordance, WORDsearch, etc., would be able to pull off a miracle and work together to get it across the board to other platforms, then EEC has a chance to get itself into the hands of as many scholars, students, pastors, etc., as possible and become the standard that its wishing to achieve.
And if Faithlife/Logos can pull it off better than iTunes for Windows, that would be nice as well. ;-)
Nathan Parker
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