Orthodox base packages are released

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edited November 2024 in Books and Courses Forum

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  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    Be sure to check out the video on our landing page: https://www.logos.com/orthodox

    The new packages should be added to the main comparison chart soon (caching delay).

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  • Member Posts: 7,012 ✭✭✭

    At last!

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

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    Fantastic ... now I need the option to upgrade my Verbum to my Orthodox level.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

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    MJ. Smith said:

    Fantastic ... now I need the option to upgrade my Verbum to my Orthodox level.

    Yes, the comparison chart and upgrade data is taking a leisurely route towards rolling out. Hopefully the cache will be up to date by morning.

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  • Member Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭

    great stuff included :-), although I'm quite surprised by one glaring omission IMO. Although there are two introductory texts on Philokalia, the actual Philokalia isn't included even at Platinum level (I realize it's been in production/waiting on translation of volume 5, but it wouldn't be the first set Logos shipped incomplete).

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  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    great stuff included :-), although I'm quite surprised by one glaring omission IMO. Although there are two introductory texts on Philokalia, the actually Philokalia isn't included even at Platinum level (I realize it's been in production/waiting on translation of volume 5, but it wouldn't be the first set Logos shipped incomplete).

    For now, we have this edition with annotated selections.

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  • Member Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭

    For now, we have this edition with annotated selections.

    Yes I saw that, but thanks for responding Gabe, I know your familiar with the other thread where the full Philokalia was discussed.  Is there any update on the last volume translation status, or the production of the rest of it?

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  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    Yes I saw that, but thanks for responding Gabe, I know your familiar with the other thread where the full Philokalia was discussed.  Is there any update on the last volume translation status, or the production of the rest of it?

    I'm acquainted with those involved. All I can really say is it's a work in progress, and we likely won't have the ability to carry it in our format until it's complete. For now, the paperbacks are well-used and on my nearest shelf.

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    For now, the paperbacks are well-used and on my nearest shelf.

    Yeah, I have a copy of it as well, and have found it to be pretty edifying.

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  • Member Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭

    edited*

    Problem will be solved in AM with CS.

    Thanks Gabe!

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    mike said:

    from someone who has bought every packages available.

    Maybe because this base package doesn't have too many things that overlap with other packages so your dynamic price isn't that much different. Just a guess...

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  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    Maybe because this base package doesn't have too many things that overlap with other packages so your dynamic price isn't that much different. Just a guess...

    You would be correct. There is not nearly as much overlap between these and other existing base packages.

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  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    mike said:

    I feel like this one is kinda expensive (not enough discount).

    My actual actual discount is LESS than 10%, when someone who just starting would have 15%.

    This is from someone who has bought every packages available.

    Maybe there's a mistake in the discount.. I hope it will be lower.

    Waiting on Gabe to reply..

    I sent you an email with an Excel file showing what resources would be new to you in Platinum. Hope it helps.

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  • Member Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Gabe, but I can already see "what's new" for me on the website.

    My question to everyone is how much discount are you getting on top of the products you've already owned?

    For example i have own almost 80% of the resources in Platinum, but the discount is less than 10% when compared to first time buyer (15%)...

  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    mike said:

    Thanks Gabe, but I can already see "what's new" for me on the website.

    My question to everyone is how much discount are you getting on top of the products you've already owned?

    For example i have own almost 80% of the resources in Platinum, but the discount is less than 10% when compared to first time buyer (15%)...

    I'll send you another email so we can get on the same page!

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  • Member Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭

    I'll send you another email so we can get on the same page

    Me too ifyou don't mind. 

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  • Member Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭

    thanks!

    problem solved!

  • Member Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭

    Well can hardly wait till i can get Gold...

    -dan

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    mike said:

    thanks!

    problem solved!

    Great! [Y]

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    The new to me worked correctly. I didn't actually check the discount as it seemed "reasonable" but the added bundle didn't show a discount on the checkout screen. Should it?

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  • Member Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭

    In Platinum, I received 194 new resources according the website but 287 new resources in Logos itself, 510mb.

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    A problem somewhere Gabe. I purchased Platinum and it shows as such ... but the Gold package is still available for a little over $4. Is there a resource missing in the Platinum?

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815
    MJ. Smith said:

    ... the added bundle didn't show a discount on the checkout screen. Should it?

    Yes, and that should be showing up properly now. Thanks.

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  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815
    MJ. Smith said:

    A problem somewhere Gabe. I purchased Platinum and it shows as such ... but the Gold package is still available for a little over $4. Is there a resource missing in the Platinum?

    Can you tell me what's showing up as "new to you" on the Gold page?

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    MJ. Smith said:

    A problem somewhere Gabe. I purchased Platinum and it shows as such ... but the Gold package is still available for a little over $4. Is there a resource missing in the Platinum?

    correct!

    Hegel's Lectures on the Philosophy of Religion (3 vols.)

    did not get purchased or downloaded!

  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    Thanks! That must've slipped through testing. That will be corrected and downloading for you shortly (and for all future purchasers).

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  • MVP Posts: 54,948

    Can you tell me what's showing up as "new to you" on the Gold page?

    Unfortunately some syncing of Faithlife servers is incomplete.

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    Yes, and that should be showing up properly now. Thanks.

    Will I be getting a small refund?

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    MJ. Smith said:

    Will I be getting a small refund?

    Of course. I'll make sure that's corrected in the morning.

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    MJ. Smith said:

    ... the added bundle didn't show a discount on the checkout screen. Should it?

    What added bundle did you buy MJ?

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    Congrats, Gabe! These are exciting new packages. 

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    mike said:

    What added bundle did you buy MJ?

    I had the bundles that were most important to me but decided it was time to test the waters of the apologetics bundle.

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  • MVP Posts: 16,210

    Yes, and that should be showing up properly now. Thanks.

    I don't see that in my cart:

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Member Posts: 358 ✭✭

    Yes, the comparison chart and upgrade data is taking a leisurely route towards rolling out. Hopefully the cache will be up to date by morning.

    The Orthodox packages are not yet populated into the base package comparison tool. Is this the cache update delay you are referring to?

    Edit: Also, the same-family "compare all products" shows the Standard base packages instead of the new Orthodox packages. I'm guessing this one is the cache not yet up to date.

    Patience is a virtue, I suppose. :)

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  • Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Gabe,

    Just FYI, the monthly costs on the logos.com/orthodox page are broken. They display the wrong amount, and the link doesn't work.

    The amounts should be hidden when dynamic pricing drives the price low (I don't get offered monthly pricing on Starter or Bronze on the individual product page). And for Silver, this page says $19/mo, but the product page says $20.66.

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  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    Gabe,

    Just FYI, the monthly costs on the logos.com/orthodox page are broken. They display the wrong amount, and the link doesn't work.

    Thanks, Mark, I've reported this to our web team. It looks like those pop-ups are broken on other pages (/anglican, for example).

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  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    Congrats, Gabe! These are exciting new packages. 

    Thank you, Fr. Devin!

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    NB.Mick said:

    I don't see that in my cart

    Update: now it works, thanks!

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    NB.Mick said:

    Update: now it works, thanks!

    Great. Thanks for pointing it out!

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  • Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    Gabe,  just for your information;

    EDITED:

    Don't trust my eyesight, I really am legally blind and thought I owned a resource but I do not.

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    The discounts on featured products (theoretically) shown after adding an Orthodox base package to one's cart don't seem to be working. Not that any of those products are Eastern Orthodox!

    Please let us know once the Compare feature is working on Orthodox packages--I'm tired of checking. [:P]

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  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    Gabe,  just for your information;

    EDITED:

    Don't trust my eyesight, I really am legally blind and thought I owned a resource but I do not.

     

    No worries. [H]

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  • Member Posts: 1,041 ✭✭

    Ooh, I can see The Antioch Bible is in Platinum. That's tempting.

    It seems to be really deeply discounted as well, my price for Platinum over Gold was to increase the cash cost by about a third when the "value" of resources almost doubled (largely due to the Antioch Bible) 

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    Usually we see a 15% off discount when a new base package is introduced. Will we see that on the Orthodox base packages?

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  • Member Posts: 40 ✭✭

    The comparing chart is broken just so you know Gabe, dunno who is the person to fix that though...

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    Usually we see a 15% off discount when a new base package is introduced. Will we see that on the Orthodox base packages?

    I see the introductory savings is already built-in the pricing. When I placed a base package in my cart the savings was apparent. 

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  • Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    I see the introductory savings is already built-in the pricing. When I placed a base package in my cart the savings was apparent. 

    Correct. But to answer your original question, yes, these are 15% off across the board.

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  • Member Posts: 358 ✭✭

    The Orthodox packages are not yet populated into the base package comparison tool. Is this the cache update delay you are referring to?

    Edit: Also, the same-family "compare all products" shows the Standard base packages instead of the new Orthodox packages. I'm guessing this one is the cache not yet up to date.

    Patience is a virtue, I suppose. :)

    And so it proved. These functions are now confirmed working as intended.

  • Member Posts: 39 ✭✭

    Shouldn't at least the Orthodox Platinum have the Gottingen Septuagint?

    https://www.logos.com/product/4951/gottingen-septuagint

    This is a major omission.  If it were included, with upcoming volumes automatically added in as they were processed, I would buy the Platinum set immediately, in all likelihood.

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