BUG: HUGE problem with Orthodox lectionaries

MJ. Smith
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edited November 20 in Resources Forum

Wink Okay, the title is a hyperbole. The lectionaries actually are wonderful except ... for the New Testament, essentially my only "authentic" choice is the Eastern/Greek Orthodox Bible: New Testament. There is no Orthodox full Bible translation available. [An aside: Please order this pre-pub to solve improve the problem: The Holy Orthodox Bible (9 vols.) by Peter Papoutsis]. So I try to use the LES as the Old Testament, making it a series with the Orthodox NT - but the lectionary does not recognize the series but goes to my top priority Bible.

Succinctly put: what Bible works with the entire lectionary AND is based on the Greek Orthodox Greek text?

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  • Gabe Martini (Faithlife)
    Gabe Martini (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    MJ. Smith said:

    Wink Okay, the title is a hyperbole. The lectionaries actually are wonderful except ... for the New Testament, essentially my only "authentic" choice is the Eastern/Greek Orthodox Bible: New Testament. There is no Orthodox full Bible translation available. [An aside: Please order this pre-pub to solve the problem: The Holy Orthodox Bible (9 vols.) by Peter Papoutsis]. So I try to use the LES as the Old Testament, making it a series with the Orthodox NT - but the lectionary does not recognize the series but goes to my top priority Bible.

    Succinctly put: what Bible works with the entire lectionary AND is based on the Greek Orthodox Greek text?

    Thanks for the hyperbole. [;)]

    To be clear, the HOB is only Old Testament, so that won't quite solve everything. We could maybe merge that with the EOB as a new resource someday ...

    Long story short, the number of OT readings in the Byzantine Lectionary is rather small, so having a NT-only Bible as your default works the vast majority of the time.

    I'd suggest using the RSV-CE, as many English-speaking jurisdictions default to an RSV-based text anyway. Licensing makes things difficult. [:)] That's what I personally use the most, and then I prioritize the LES for when I'm in the OT.

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  • If you're going to add the Coptic lectionary this will be a very valid issue... We have many OT texts daily in our readings from psalms to prophecies...

  • Gabe Martini (Faithlife)
    Gabe Martini (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    If you're going to add the Coptic lectionary this will be a very valid issue... We have many OT texts daily in our readings from psalms to prophecies...

    True. Sounds like we should account for multiple Bibles in our Lectionary resources.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,403

    Thanks for the quick reply Gabe. I'll direct people to it when the issue arises in the forums. I may make a serious suggestion that the lectionary support serial relationships - after all, think of Peshitta based lectionaries.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Gabe Martini (Faithlife)
    Gabe Martini (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

    MJ. Smith said:

    Thanks for the quick reply Gabe. I'll direct people to it when the issue arises in the forums. I may make a serious suggestion that the lectionary support serial relationships - after all, think of Peshitta based lectionaries.

    Sure. I think we need to find a way to account for multiple Bibles (one for each testament, at least), if it's not too difficult.

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  • Louis St. Hilaire
    Louis St. Hilaire Member, Logos Employee Posts: 513

    MJ. Smith said:

    Thanks for the quick reply Gabe. I'll direct people to it when the issue arises in the forums. I may make a serious suggestion that the lectionary support serial relationships - after all, think of Peshitta based lectionaries.

    Sure. I think we need to find a way to account for multiple Bibles (one for each testament, at least), if it's not too difficult.

    I think you can use advanced prioritization for this. This seems to work for me:

  • Gabe Martini (Faithlife)
    Gabe Martini (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 815

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  • MJ. Smith
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    I think you can use advanced prioritization for this.

    Duh ... [:$] ... I was so focused on the preference box in the lectionary that I forgot to look at the bigger picture. Thanks Louis.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Tom Smith
    Tom Smith Member Posts: 27 ✭✭

    looks like I can't buy the lectionary separate from the Orthodox package, which starts at $189. So I'm not sure what the purpose of the $4.99 price tag is -- seems misleading. 

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,403

    The purpose is to give it a value for calculating packages and dynamic pricing. Most items that can be purchased only in packages are marked as such in the packages or bundles.

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  • Dan
    Dan Member Posts: 68

    This is still in development and not released. Makes me wonder if it's just sitting on the backburner.