Barth on Romans
What would it take to get this in Logos?
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No e-book version is available (according to Google), but this is such a basic book, which has been requested so many times (never to any official response, which is not unusual until PrePub) that I hope it is high on their radar.
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Everett Headley said:
What would it take to get this in Logos?
Thanks for bringing this up, Everett. Great question. ( see also: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/78032/685701.aspx ) I'd love to see this happen.
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Ah, Everett, I see you posted in that thread too! [:)] I appreciate you raising the issue again.
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I did. I wonder why Logos has not yet answered this or simply put it into PrePub. Is it possible that Logos has too much money, or hates profit, or simply doesn't want to listen to its customer base?
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Everett Headley said:
I wonder why Logos has not yet answered this
They rarely do so ... but if they are actively pursuing it, getting the rights can take a significant period of time.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Could the second edition in German be offered on CP? If it's PD, pursuing rights is a non-issue.
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Second edition was 1922, in English in 1933. Not in PD.
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Everett Headley said:
Second edition was 1922, in English in 1933. Not in PD.
In the US, (basically) anything before 1923 is PD. So the German is PD.
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That's what I thought, Justin, but I'm not sure how international copyright laws work since it was not published in the US.
And if it IS in the PD, we should be able to find an electronic copy and create a PB. Has anyone seen it anywhere?
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I have been unable to find an electroinc copy for a PBB. I would gladly build it if someone were to find it.
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Thanks for the offer, Everett. I haven't given up, but no success yet.
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I got a repsonse from Logos that they are trying to get the rights, but no other info. As it's been 3 years that we have been asking for it, I sense that it will never happen.
I have contacted the Karl Barth Society to see if they have anything.
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I have found this copy in Scribd. Does anyone know if it will work in a pdf convertor to word?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/75027604/Karl-Barth-The-Epistle-to-the-Romans
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Everett Headley said:
I have found this copy in Scribd. Does anyone know if it will work in a pdf convertor to word?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/75027604/Karl-Barth-The-Epistle-to-the-Romans
It appears to already be in doc format. You merely need to switch to docx.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Thanks, I missed that. I actually see it in .txt. When converted to .doc, its gonna be a pain to reformat.
If anyone would like to help, please let me know.
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I don't have a Scribd account and it seems it wants me to sign up for one (w/ money) to download this. Am I doing it wrong or is there another way to get it?
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You have to pay for it because it is not in the public domain. So you also could not legally share it if you made it into a personal book.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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Everett Headley said:
I have found this copy in Scribd. Does anyone know if it will work in a pdf convertor to word?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/75027604/Karl-Barth-The-Epistle-to-the-Romans
I hate it when a site offers a download and asks for info from you, then after that, you learn you must pay to download it. Sneeky SOBs.
They now have your information to do with what they want.
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Another plea for this!
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In Germany and Switzerland, all of Karl Barth's works will enter PD on 1 January 2039. CP should not be possible.
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Jan Krohn said:
In Germany and Switzerland, all of Karl Barth's works will enter PD on 1 January 2039. CP should not be possible.
Since FL is based in the US, where some of it is already PD, it could be available on CP with a geographical restriction.
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Everett Headley said:
What would it take to get this in Logos?
I agree that this is an important resource to have in Logos [Y]
I have just put a suggestion for this in the user voice book suggestions
Worth a try and maybe some votes would help [:)]
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Fred Robbins said:
Sneeky SOBs.
They now have your information to do with what they want.
Um, I certainly don't mean to be overly critical, and I hope that meekness and gentleness can be discerned in my reply here, but I honestly and respectfully don't think that this is the kind of dialogue we should aspire to in a Christian community forum. There should be something different about our speech and our conduct as followers of Christ, and I don't think such a label is appropriate language to be spoken or read in a Christian forum.
As such, I would just like to ask that we keep our dialogue pure and Christ-honoring.
Thank you in advance for humbly and graciously considering my request.
Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
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I found a free copy of Barth's commentary on Romans on archive.org. I assume archive.org is a very legitimate source. It is a pdf file that does need ocr work before it could be made into a personal book.
I hope to do that for myself, but would need to be sure that it is not a copyright violation before sharing on the files forum.
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley0 -
Michael Childs said:
I found a free copy of Barth's commentary on Romans on archive.org. I assume archive.org is a very legitimate source. It is a pdf file that does need ocr work before it could be made into a personal book.
I hope to do that for myself, but would need to be sure that it is not a copyright violation before sharing on the files forum.
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That would be such a blessing if it is legally available for you to share.
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Sue McIntyre said:Michael Childs said:
I found a free copy of Barth's commentary on Romans on archive.org. I assume archive.org is a very legitimate source. It is a pdf file that does need ocr work before it could be made into a personal book.
I hope to do that for myself, but would need to be sure that it is not a copyright violation before sharing on the files forum.
That would be such a blessing if it is legally available for you to share.
I definitely downloaded the file as a pdf from archive.org and still have it on my computer. But I just went back to achive.org. They still have some Barth material, but I no longer find his commentary on Romans. That makes me suspicious that it was a mistake and has been removed.
I downloaded it about 6 or 8 months back. But I no longer see it there. However, there is some Barth material posted.
If I found out the file is legal to share, I would be happy to do so. But for now, I cannot do that.
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley0 -
Michael Childs said:
I definitely downloaded the file as a pdf from archive.org and still have it on my computer. But I just went back to achive.org. They still have some Barth material, but I no longer find his commentary on Romans. That makes me suspicious that it was a mistake and has been removed.
I downloaded it about 6 or 8 months back. But I no longer see it there. However, there is some Barth material posted.
If I found out the file is legal to share, I would be happy to do so. But for now, I cannot do that.
Thank you Michael for your reply. It certainly does not sound like it is legally available to share!
There are several editions of this volume and I am not sure which one/s (and which translations) are of the most value to scholars. Barth himself made substantial revisions between the first and second editions.
I have high hopes that one of the later editions will appear in Logos eventually. The sixth edition (translated by Edwyn C. Hoskyns) is published by Oxford University Press and Logos/Verbum/Noet have other resources from this publisher in their catalogues[:)]
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Fwiw, ive been told that they are negotiating to get this in Logos, but thats been several months now. They say its a priority.
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Everett Headley said:
ive been told that they are negotiating to get this in Logos,
Thank you Everett. That is good news [Y]
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Still not in Logos! Rise up and demand they get! (Or at least ask politely, with a please and thank you.)
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Everett Headley said:
Still not in Logos! Rise up and demand they get! (Or at least ask politely, with a please and thank you.)
I will be as happy as you when we get it into our software
The rights for it just are not very straightforward ...
Senior Director, Content Products
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Everett, thank you for continuing to drive this request. A lot of us appreciate your effort on this and share your desire to have this resource in the Logos format.
Ben, thank you for weighing in on this and please continue to push for a creative and successful resolution to fill this hole in our libraries! We're grateful and hopeful.
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Has there been ANY movement towards getting this in Logos, it even vyrso?
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Before downloading anything from any website you should find out about the site, including their privacy policy - if it doesn't exist thats a good warning to not proceed any further, and if there are any joining costs or costs per download.
I am familiar with scribed, once had an account but decided for me I no longer required it, but if in the future I thought it once again was of value to me, I would consider signing up again after checking I was still comfortable with the terms and conditions and pricing at that time.
Fred Robbins said:Everett Headley said:I have found this copy in Scribd. Does anyone know if it will work in a pdf convertor to word?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/75027604/Karl-Barth-The-Epistle-to-the-Romans
I hate it when a site offers a download and asks for info from you, then after that, you learn you must pay to download it. Sneeky SOBs.
They now have your information to do with what they want.
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The rights for it just are not very straightforward ...
^That's probably why not. I'd like to have it too, but it could take a long time for the situation to change.
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Thank you Sean. I too saw this.
Now, it's been at least 4 years since requested. How complicated can it be?
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Any movemwnt?
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Is this even on Logos' radar? Have you called the publisher even? Is anyone listening???
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Everett Headley said:
Is this even on Logos' radar? Have you called the publisher even? Is anyone listening???
We've reached out to just about every publisher/person/estate/entity we can think of to try and get the rights for this. It's incredibly complex. We will continue to try if opportunities come up. Barring a miracle, I don't see this getting into Logos any time soon.
Believe me, I would love to see this in the Logos format. It would add a lot of value to users and likely bring in a lot of revenue. If we ever get the rights to this, I'll post it on the website myself the minute we have a signed contract.
Senior Director, Content Products
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Bump.
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Justin Gatlin said:
No e-book version is available (according to Google), but this is such a basic book, which has been requested so many times (never to any official response, which is not unusual until PrePub) that I hope it is high on their radar.
Thanks
Blessings in Christ.
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Justin Gatlin said:
No e-book version is available (according to Google), but this is such a basic book, which has been requested so many times (never to any official response, which is not unusual until PrePub) that I hope it is high on their radar.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01AX0BHSU/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=
"No man is greater than his prayer life. The pastor who is not praying is playing; the people who are not praying are straying." Leonard Ravenhill
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Wild Eagle said:Justin Gatlin said:
No e-book version is available (according to Google), but this is such a basic book, which has been requested so many times (never to any official response, which is not unusual until PrePub) that I hope it is high on their radar.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01AX0BHSU/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=
As far as I know, that is not an authorized digital edition of The Epistle to the Romans.
We are continuing to pursue licensing this title as much as we can. We still don't have anything to report.
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I am surprised that Kindle is selling an unauthorized digital edition. Is that what you are saying?Wild Eagle said:Justin Gatlin said:No e-book version is available (according to Google), but this is such a basic book, which has been requested so many times (never to any official response, which is not unusual until PrePub) that I hope it is high on their radar.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01AX0BHSU/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=
As far as I know, that is not an authorized digital edition of The Epistle to the Romans.
We are continuing to pursue licensing this title as much as we can. We still don't have anything to report.
There was a free edition on archive.org for a while, but I don't think it is there any more.
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Some update on Barth please?
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