NIV 1984 differences

http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison/

-dan

I just did a comparison of the first ten chapters of Genesis.

There were 15 differences that I saw.

realized => realised that
forever => for ever (2x)
toward => towards (4x)
backward => backwards
afterward => afterwards
favor => favour (2x)
labor => labour
centers => centres
added "for" in the verse "rain fell on the earth FOR forty days and forty nights"
that => from which

As you can see, a lot of them are spelling differences that make no difference in reading out loud.

I just did a comparison of the first ten chapters of Genesis.

There were 15 differences that I saw.

realized => realised that
forever => for ever (2x)
toward => towards (4x)
backward => backwards
afterward => afterwards
favor => favour (2x)
labor => labour
centers => centres
added "for" in the verse "rain fell on the earth FOR forty days and forty nights"
that => from which

As you can see, a lot of them are spelling differences that make no difference in reading out loud.

Elnwoord are you comparing an American version with a British version?

P A[8-|]

Elnwoord are you comparing an American version with a British version?

which is exactly what the OP asked about, insn't it?

I just did a comparison of the first ten chapters of Genesis.

I just did a comparison of the first ten chapters of Genesis.

Thanks for sharing your work :-)

Sounds like a great solution for those who do not have NIV 1984.

Not necessarily I have British NIV 84 & 2011 & AMERICAN NIV 84 & 2011 in Logos.

The question is not clear.

But you could be right[:P]

Edit : After reviewing the evidence (clicking on the link). I can confirm you are correct[:P]

P A

http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison/

-dan

Thanks Dan;

That is a good link for future reference. I was more concerned with the differences between the NIV84 and the Anglicised version. The NIV 1984 is no longer being sold anywhere and has been taken off of the market, so Logos definitely will not have it, however, there is an anglicised version (which I have in Logos) that is said to be a 1984 version. What we are left with today, is that 2011 version and the anglicised, but no NIV84 (which some were fortunate to get before it's discontinuance).

I just did a comparison of the first ten chapters of Genesis.

There were 15 differences that I saw.

realized => realised that
forever => for ever (2x)
toward => towards (4x)
backward => backwards
afterward => afterwards
favor => favour (2x)
labor => labour
centers => centres
added "for" in the verse "rain fell on the earth FOR forty days and forty nights"
that => from which

As you can see, a lot of them are spelling differences that make no difference in reading out loud.

Thanks Elnwood;

Yes, I see. Seems like the differences are mainly grammatical.

Elnwoord are you comparing an American version with a British version?

which is exactly what the OP asked about, insn't it?

Yes. The British version (which is said to be 1984) is available (I have it), but the American version is no longer available (which we already know).

Sounds like a great solution for those who do not have NIV 1984.

That is what I'm looking at. The NIV 1984 is referenced so much, not just in Logos, but in paper/leather also. As I understand and realize, many congregations use the NIV 1984 as the translation of choices just as the KJV is.It is such a shame that a translation that people may have be brought up on is no longer being printed. Look at the KJV. Even though there is a NKJV, the primary KJV is still being printed. This is a little beyond the purpose of my question, but we are left searching. So, although my translation of choice is the KJV, I am very interested in the NIV84, which was the secondary choice of translation when I was coming up.

Not necessarily I have British NIV 84 & 2011 & AMERICAN NIV 84 & 2011 in Logos.

The question is not clear.

But you could be right

Edit : After reviewing the evidence (clicking on the link). I can confirm you are correct

P A

Wow, P A. Now my question has been intensified. [:)]

In your opinion, out of each of the versions that you have, which one is the closest match to the American NIV84? And, are the differences between the two significant in any way?

Erwin,

The variances in the two versions of the 1984 NIV have mostly to do with different conventions of spelling and grammar. There may also be some substitution of idioms. They are the same translation and I think most American readers would derive the same interpretation of the underlying texts from either one.

The 2011 NIV is a transition that offers different interpretation of many passages based upon more than a quarter century of continuing scholarship and cultural shifts. As with the 1984 NIV an Anglicised version is available for the 2011 translation.

For general information about the history of the NIV see the following linked article:

http://www.bible-researcher.com/niv.html

The websites at the following links provides a detailed record of the differences between the 1984 and 2011 NIV translations:

http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison/index.html

http://www.biblewebapp.com/niv2011-changes/

For links to scholarly discussion about translating the bible and the 2011 NIV translation see the following page:

http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison/perspectives_in_translation.html

Erwin,

The variances in the two versions of the 1984 NIV have mostly to do with different conventions of spelling and grammar. There may also be some substitution of idioms. They are the same translation and I think most American readers would derive the same interpretation of the underlying texts from either one.

The 2011 NIV is a transition that offers different interpretation of many passages based upon more than a quarter century of continuing scholarship and cultural shifts. As with the 1984 NIV an Anglicised version is available for the 2011 translation.

For general information about the history of the NIV see the following linked article:

http://www.bible-researcher.com/niv.html

The websites at the following links provides a detailed record of the differences between the 1984 and 2011 NIV translations:

http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison/index.html

http://www.biblewebapp.com/niv2011-changes/

For links to scholarly discussion about translating the bible and the 2011 NIV translation see the following page:

http://www.slowley.com/niv2011_comparison/perspectives_in_translation.html

Thanks JAL

Theres a good article here too: https://fiec.org.uk/what-we-do/strand-blog/lost-in-translation

Theres a good article here too: https://fiec.org.uk/what-we-do/strand-blog/lost-in-translation

Thanks David; [:)]

BTW: The website address is good, but the hotlink directs to a Logos forum thread with "access denied". For the benefit of others also, here is the corrected link. https://fiec.org.uk/what-we-do/strand-blog/lost-in-translation

Thanks again.

Not a few of us still have an NIV from about 1978 and lots still have ESVs from 2007 or earlier. I have emotional attachments to the NIV 84 and more learned ones to the RSV. Little or none of it seems to matter when I sit and study.

In UK, physical copies of 1984 NIV can still be obtained from mkcb.org - a bookshop that specialises in these out of print books. Hope this helps.