Emphasis text issues

I've had a number of issues with the "Emphasis text" function to the point that it's unusable for me.

First, on Windows at least, clicking the dropdown and selecting a colour doesn't actually change the colour of the text. You have to select the colour then click the main button. That's very confusing (so much so, that I thought the whole feature was broken.)

Second, the biggest need I have for this feature is to de-emphasise the text. When adding point 2 to a slide, I'd like to fade out point 1. It would be nice to do this automatically, but failing that, creating two slides is OK. But because I don't have control over the colours, then the feature is unusable for me. I can select neither a light grey (if the rest of my slide was normal), nor the preferred colour of my text (if the rest of my slide was grey).

Third, when emphasising an entire line of a numbered/bulleted list, the numbers remain in the ordinary colour, which looks very odd.

An alternative fixing these problems (for me at least) would be to provide an additional feature whereby text from previous points would automatically fade when adding new points.

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Scott Alexander

Thanks for the feedback Mark. I'll look further into this on Monday.

Mike Binks

First, on Windows at least, clicking the dropdown and selecting a colour doesn't actually change the colour of the text. You have to select the colour then click the main button. That's very confusing (so much so, that I thought the whole feature was broken.)

Not being a heavy user of this facility it had me scratching my head last week. I had given it up as broken when the extra (non intuitive) click suddenly made it jump into life.

It is not only the Lord that works in mysterious ways!

BTW liked Marks other suggestions too.

Bob Pritchett

Mark, can you send a link to a presentation where you do this?

I've seen people use 'progressive reveal' for bullet points, but fading earlier points is a new idea to me. Does PowerPoint make it easy to do this automatically, or do you always have to set it up manually?

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/822892#Comment_822892

Hi Bob

Does PowerPoint make it easy to do this automatically

Very easy in PowerPoint - using the "After Animation" Effect Option

A one slide presentation that shows this is at 5428.Auto-fade.pptx

Graham

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/822892#Comment_822892

Mark, can you send a link to a presentation where you do this?

I'm not using bulleted lists because this feature is missing. I'd prefer to have each point on a separate slide than to overwhelm listeners with several bullet points on screen at the same time.

Having said that, even if you added a feature which did this automatically, it may not work for me. Often, in the middle of the bullet points I would want to display a Bible verse and then return back to the bullet points later. Proclaim doesn't make that particularly easy but you can do it. However, if the fading was only automatic, then it probably wouldn't work in this scenario.

So to accomplish this, I'd want three features:

Automatic fading of earlier bullet points (perhaps using "+++")
The ability to embed Bible text into a content slide (perhaps using brackets)
The ability to jump out of a slide, to show something else, then return to it later (perhaps using angle brackets).

So I might have something like this:

+++God favours ordinary, not extraordinary people
<[1 Corinthians 1:26–29]>
+++God enables ordinary people to do extraordinary things
<[2 Corinthians 4:7]>
+++God gives us an extraordinary person to do what we could never do

Failing all that, the best solution for me would simply be a grey option for emphasis text (or better still a 'choose your own colour').

Bob Pritchett

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/822923#Comment_822923

So what you need (what everyone needs!) is the upcoming support for arbitrary multi-line text fields on specific slides; then you can reveal the bullet points and add a verse on each slide as you wish, without it remaining on the following.

I have to confess that the fading previous points to another color is new to me... we'll think about how we can do that without implementing the entire PowerPoint animation method. (We have actually specified how to do that, but it's a lot of work with some big issues related to how we use slides...)

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/823305#Comment_823305

So what you need (what everyone needs!) is the upcoming support for arbitrary multi-line text fields on specific slides;

That would allow me to achieve what I want, but it might be a bit cumbersome to set up. I'd settle for that, though.