Suggestion: Create Saints Name milestone

Damian McGrath
Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭
edited November 20 in Resources Forum

Resources explicitly on the Saints are inconsistently indexed because they are indexed, primarily, on English Headwords. These vary from resource to resource, ad exemplum for Francis of Assisi:

  • The Verbum Saints resource has Saint Francis of Assisi, Francis of Assisi, and Giovanni di Pietro di Bernardone
  • The Catholic Lectionary has Saint Francis of Assisi
  • The Roman Missal has Saint Francis of Assisi
  • Saints and Feasts of the Liturgical Year has no English Headword
  • Pictorial Lives of the Saints has no English Headword
  • Butler's Lives of the Saints has no English headword. This resource seems to lack very many of the English Headwords for the saints
  • The Book of Saints by the Benedictine Monks, has Francis of Assisi (St.)

This makes parallel resources a hit or miss affair

Some resources that would benefit from the addition of such a milestone:

  • Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church
  • 131 Christians Everyone Should Know
  • Who's Who in Christian History
  • Encyclopedia of Christianity
  • Verbum Treasury of Sacred Art

Comments

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,405

    A less expensive way to achieve this is to add the saints to the LCV and tag with LCV names/synonyms. Some of the resources you mention have already been tagged by community tags with the LCV when available. I agree these should not be community tags but rather Logos tags

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    A less expensive way to achieve this is to add the saints to the LCV and tag with LCV names/synonyms. Some of the resources you mention have already been tagged by community tags with the LCV when available.

    I don't really understand this. Can you explain it for me?

    I don't understand why I can often go to the Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church from the saints resource but then there are no parallel resources available.

  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭

    Martha, am I right that if its not a headword that I can't do a power lookup

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,405

    Names are just a particular kind of English headword. They don't need to be indexed separately. They just need to be in the LCV with all the necessary synonyms and be tagged in the resources themselves. I'll play with it a bit to see if there is some limitation on the behavior that I've not run into.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭

    But, there is a problem if there are no English headwords in some resources?

    How do you check which names are tagged in the LCV?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,405

    But, there is a problem if there are no English headwords in some resources?

    Yes, there is ... I have found two resources where I had tagged with community tags to get people selected that now have official Faithlife coding. I'm trying to get back to a project that will apply more pressure for them to update more.

    How do you check which names are tagged in the LCV?

    I check for a biographic record in Factbook ... and that the entry has the appropriate alternative name.  For saints I make the questionable assumption that if the synonym is in Saints, Factbook has been updated to match.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."