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...many of the authors added to P & C are the introductory material...
My personal challenge right now with the Gold base package is the large number of random commentaries simply labeled "Hosea" with no series, title, or author information. I know they have been working on getting the information pop-ups up and running, but the number of "generic" commentaries is discouraging.
Additionally, even looking at the description page of the sets, the gold only rates "Intermediate" in the higher tiers of Academic Research and such. Is it a state of the "denominational" scholarship or is it the state of the pickings and offerings of the Tradition Package? I know there are several scholars and authors I would love to see that would probably fit well within the scope of this set (they removed DDD from the last round, which is an awesome resource) and I would have loved to see Craig Keener (his Miracles or Acts volumes would have been most welcome) or even some additional Fee and Carson. Not sure if Tozer was removed due to the reestablishment of the Moody relationship, but that's a bit of a bummer. I will say, the application Commentaries and counseling resources are nice to see, but otherwise, it's definitely an "add-on" type of package and not a strong foundational package. I'm leaning heavily towards the Methodist Platinum.
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I have upgraded my Standard to the latest Gold but will almost certainly pass on the Pentecostal and Charismatic upgrades this time as there is little that I would find useful. Personally I think that until Faithlife can do a deal with one of the major Pentecostal Denominational publishers the Pentecostal material will remain weak.
I'll probably take time to check out the Methodist/Wesleyan offerings as they are useful and are in touch with Pentecostalism's roots.
Personally I think that until Faithlife can do a deal with one of the major Pentecostal Denominational publishers
That may simply rest on wether or not they can have a dedicated rep within their ranks to facilitate a deal. I've gathered that from past forum conversations and threads. Worldwide, I would imagine a large drive from this segment of Christian Tradition, but maybe it's not as large a drive from the US market?
The Methodist/Wesleyan libraries are much stronger IMHO.
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Seems we are on the same search
Right!? I will say the current offerings are not "throw-away", and I would still consider purchasing one. But there's till rooms for some significant improvement, especially for that one or two "gotta have" resources in the package.
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As one of the Pentecostal (specifically conservative A/G type) ministers who have used Logos for a long time, I concur that the upgrades on the Logos 7 P&C are not compelling at all. In fact for me they are a huge disappointment. I've been begging Logos to add The Fire Bible notes and articles to their offerings for years and years now, to no avail. And yet this resource is offer in several of their competitors' software.
I've gone as high as I can go in the company (in other words, taking the opportunity in a personal email exchange with Bob P. to ask him to look into it) seeking for more resources in the Pentecostal stream. I communicated with the one brother who was in charge of P&C acquisitions a couple of years ago, but he was out of the company quickly and as best I can tell they still have no one dedicated specifically to our grouping. It's a huge problem, and I can't see myself investing in Logos 7 until I have more assurance the Pentecostal community at Logos is better represented and served. The Fire Bible I asked for is the study bible of the Assemblies of God, the largest Pentecostal denomination on the planet. If Logos can't even offer that resource, while competitors do, there's a problem.
Agree 100%. I just recently purchased Logos 7 Gold to test drive for 30 days but so far I'm not to overly impressed. In addition they discontinued AG's Global training that used to be available in most all base packages. What other software would you recommend? Currently I'm considering switching to a standard Gold package or changing software altogether.
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Cindy, It would matter what you are looking for. Is there something specific you want? Dictionaries, Language Tools, Commentaries?
I was pleased with the Methodist Wesleyan Package (I purchased Platinum, but the Gold has a solid set of commentaries - Bible Knowledge, Socio-Rhetorical, IVPNT, Interpretation, Blacks, etc.) The Gold Standard has a good mix as well (ACC, Pillar, Tyndale, NIGTC, Anchor Yale Dictionary) so I would think those would be better than the P&C Gold. P&C seems really supplemental to me, as opposed to being a starter-library for Logos.
I was hoping to see Mark Barnes expand on his buying guides (which are a HUGE help in seeing an overview of the base packages) but I don't think he has completed them. There are lots of options in base packages.
What are you looking for?
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Honestly I'm still researching what all is available & worthwhile to purchase in building my library. I've just recently completed my 2nd year of training through the Illinois School Of Ministry & am currently awaiting licensing credentials from AG General Council. Thank you for taking time to answer. God Bless :-)
If you don't already have a standard base package, it may be worth checking one of those prior to a denominational package. They offer an all around set of resources.