Verbum Mobile App - What free books does it come with?

SineNomine
SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043
edited November 20 in Resources Forum

Since I've bought plenty of books, I don't know. This makes it hard for me to get other people to try it out.

“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

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  • Kevin Byford (Faithlife)
    Kevin Byford (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,309

    Please see https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.logos.androidverbum . The app description shows what free resources are included.

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    Please see https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.logos.androidverbum . The app description shows what free resources are included.

    Thank you. [:)]

    The Catholic Lectionary, The Roman Catechism, Pictorial Lives of the Saints, Sources of Catholic Dogma (Denzinger), Thomas a Kempis’ The Imitation of Christ, Newman’s An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine, Chesterton’s Orthodoxy, and many more.
    Free Bibles: The Douay-Rheims, King James Version, Clementine Vulgate, Novum Testamentum Graece (Tischendorf), The Greek New Testament: SBL Edition, Westcott-Hort Greek New Testament, Lexham English Bible.

    This gives me an incomplete but meaningful list. Fourteen titles, plus "many more". The website says that you get 24 free ones if you log in with an account, so I'm interested in what the other ten are.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • Kevin Byford (Faithlife)
    Kevin Byford (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,309

    This gives me an incomplete but meaningful list. Fourteen titles, plus "many more". The website says that you get 24 free ones if you log in with an account, so I'm interested in what the other ten are.

    The website is incorrect; 15 resources are available without an account and an additional 18 are available with an account. Here are the resources available with an account.

  • Dan Francis
    Dan Francis Member Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭

    Please correct me if I am wrong, but I wanted to also note that free resources are not allowed to be downloaded to your device for offline reading. This is understandable as no licence is owned but may be a disappointment to some people. It might be a nice idea to allow for a couple of the public domain items to be allowed to be downloaded but I do realize there is limited usage for offline resources so perhaps this is not a big deal in allowing people to try it out.

    -Dan

    PS:I also realize that anyone purchasing the  free faithlife study bible or LEB would be able to install these resources as a way of seeing how it works offline, but I am not 100% sure if some more ardent catholics would like trying out protestant resources.

     

  • Kevin Byford (Faithlife)
    Kevin Byford (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,309

    Please correct me if I am wrong, but I wanted to also note that free resources are not allowed to be downloaded to your device for offline reading.

    Three Bibles, the Catholic Daily Readings the Logos Help resource can be downloaded by anyone with an account, at zero cost.

  • Dan Francis
    Dan Francis Member Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭

    I am so glad to hear that.... thanks for informing me as to what is possible... This seems more than fair... I just remember years ago some people complaining about the inability to DL books to their device, but as I said I understand why it is not possible with copyrighted resources your are generous enough to provide to try the FREE mobile program.

    -Dan

  • Kevin Byford (Faithlife)
    Kevin Byford (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,309

    I just remember years ago some people complaining about the inability to DL books to their device, but as I said I understand why it is not possible with copyrighted resources your are generous enough to provide to try the FREE mobile program.

    -Dan

    Some people still complain about this. Their assumption is if books appear in the Library while the device is online those books are "downloaded". When they go offline, their books are all of a sudden "missing"... i.e., we've removed their books. We get plenty of reports about that. Also, some think the books they "own" (i.e. bundled free resources included with the apps) should be available in the other apps where those resources are not bundled. We've gotten complaints and bad reviews of that as well.

    On the mobile side we could probably do a much better job of making it clear that books aren't owned until they are purchased; this isn't a problem with Desktop because it doesn't bundle any books.

  • Deacon Steve
    Deacon Steve Member Posts: 1,047

    Hi Kevin,

    Thanks for your explanation.  As always there is some nuance that is under appreciated.

    Maybe it would help if you could explain more about the differences, as to mobile, between:

    - resources available on-line and then not available off-line (where is the license?)

    - bundled resources (on desktop or on mobile?)  i.e. who cares - I bought it?

    Regarding the mobile side ... if we purchase a resource why would there be confusion viewing on mobile?

  • Kevin Byford (Faithlife)
    Kevin Byford (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,309

    Every purchased resource with a license can be downloaded if it's mobile-enabled (some resources are not available on mobile whether through publisher licensing or technical factors). Customers are in control of whether resources are downloaded or not (except for the LEB resource which is automatically downloaded).

    In the Library, if there is a circular solid blue "i" icon next to a resource, that resource is downloaded. If it's not a solid blue the resource is not downloaded. To change the download status, just tap on the "i" icon and either remove or download the resource.

    Bundled resources available in a particular app are available while online when using that particular app. Bundled resources may or may not be available in other apps as the bundles differ on a per-app basis.

    Desktop doesn't included bundled resources; if you didn't buy a resource you won't see it on Desktop. If you did buy a resource you will see it on both Desktop and mobile (assuming it's mobile-enabled). In other words, you can't buy bundled resources because we don't sell them - the mobile apps are free. If you wish to see the same bundled resources you see in the mobile apps over on the Desktop side, you have to purchase them. 

    Does that help explain it better?

  • Deacon Steve
    Deacon Steve Member Posts: 1,047

    Yes, I think. 

    It seems that "mobile enabled" is the key point.  If a resource is not "mobile enabled" than it does not show up in your library, even if you purchased it.  In other words, there is no mobile license even though you have a digital license for your desktop.

  • Kevin Byford (Faithlife)
    Kevin Byford (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,309

    Steve said:

    Yes, I think. 

    It seems that "mobile enabled" is the key point.  If a resource is not "mobile enabled" than it does not show up in your library, even if you purchased it.  In other words, there is no mobile license even though you have a digital license for your desktop.

    Yes, for the most part. If a publisher doesn't agree to make their content available on mobile as part of our licensing/distribution agreement with them, it will be available on Desktop but not mobile. This is the vendor's decision and not ours.

    On the other hand some other resources will not be available on mobile because of technology constraints - Interactive resources, some infographic resources, etc. This isn't related to licensing but because the mobile apps aren't capable (yet, if ever) of handling those resources.