It is very strange, since it was released in 2015.... I was fairly sure I had seen that book in the Logos bookstore since it is a title i search for often (devotional of martin lathers writings not the book you are seeking). That said it is no longer in the Logos book store if it ever was there...
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Five Solas Series
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I'm hoping to pick up The Five Solas Series. Vyrso has four of the volumes, but is strangely missing "Faith Alone"!
Any ideas why?
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It is very strange, since it was released in 2015.... I was fairly sure I had seen that book in the Logos bookstore since it is a title i search for often (devotional of martin lathers writings not the book you are seeking). That said it is no longer in the Logos book store if it ever was there...
-dan
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I would reach out to Kyle A and check with him. Once I noticed there was Wiersbe Bible Guide missing and when I inquired someone at FL noticed the conversion process on it got messed up and it got stuck in the process. Maybe that happened with this one?
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Hi All,
We're working on getting these in the Logos platform. Keep your eye on pre-pub!
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Neat. Buy in vyrso while cheap
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The link no longer work. I think Faithlife removed the resources for purchase. I did work earlier today.
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I was just about to post that! Sneaky, sneaky logos. Oh well. I'll guess around $60 in Logos for these
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Hi All,
We're working on getting these in the Logos platform. Keep your eye on pre-pub!
Thanks Ben. When can we expect this pre-pub to be available.
I feel slightly irked that the books were pulled from Vyrso after I mentioned them, but I'm sure I can forgive you!
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I feel the same way. I understand Logos not carrying the same resource in two different formats (Logos and Vyrso), yet right now they aren't available in either.
Because Logos will pull resources without warning, I will sometimes buy now instead of waiting until I actually need them.
These aren't resources I was going to purchase anyway (I'd like them, but they just don't fit my budget right now), but they should leave them on Vyrso until they are ready for Logos release.
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Ronald Quick said:
they should leave them on Vyrso until they are ready for Logos release.
I agree... sort of. The two stores operate under a different set of licensing agreements. As long is it is ok with publishers, my suggestion has been that FL should allow users to purchase the Logos edition, and receive a Vyrso edition while waiting.
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Richard Wardman said:
Thanks Ben. When can we expect this pre-pub to be available.
I don't have an exact date yet. It should be up soon.
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I am happy to pay for these resources to be formatted the way they should have been formatted in the first place. I don't think it is sneaky, it is a sens business decision. They need to fund the work of tagging the books properly. If everyone sits back and buys them on the cheap now and expects to recieve a free upgrade to fully formatted books then the prepub project will fail. I hold FL to a high level of honesty and integrity in their actions and believe in this situation they have done nothing wrong by taking away an opportunity for customers to take advantage of what is a generous policy. I'm looking toward to seeing this set on prepub and being able to contribute to it's success.
Mattillo said:I was just about to post that! Sneaky, sneaky logos. Oh well. I'll guess around $60 in Logos for these
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Disciple of Christ (doc) said:
I am happy to pay for these resources to be formatted the way they should have been formatted in the first place. I don't think it is sneaky, it is a sens business decision.
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Thanks Ben. Look forward to it.
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Ben sir
The five solas were removed from vyrso to hopefully put in logos but the below book is still in vyrso and on logos prepub. Why the difference in the five solas case?
Also I own the vyrso version but logos will allow me to buy the logos version as well...
If this product is successful will I have to buy again?
https://vyrso.com/product/44227/god-speaks
https://www.logos.com/product/45349/god-speaks-finding-hope-in-the-midst-of-hopelessness
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Well... Since I plan on a fall preaching series involving these topics, I hope it's soon. That's a lot of pages to digest.
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TCBlack said:
Well... Since I plan on a fall preaching series involving these topics, I hope it's soon.
Same here! That's exactly why I was enquiring about these titles.
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Mattillo said:
Why the difference
It is an oversight, and as soon as a FL employee recognizes it (perhaps from your post), it will be removed.
Mattillo said:If this product is successful will I have to buy again?
No, and you will/should receive the Logos edition gratis (if you own the Vyrso one).
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alabama24 said:
It is an oversight, and as soon as a FL employee recognizes it (perhaps from your post), it will be removed.
No, and you will/should receive the Logos edition gratis (if you own the Vyrso one).
That said if the Five Solas are released as a set it is possible you cannot get the final volume without repurchasing the other four you own due to Zondervan's policy of no dynamic pricing. but hopefully it will be released as 5 individual books.
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Dan Francis said:
That said if the Five Solas are released as a set it is possible you cannot get the final volume without repurchasing the other four you own due to Zondervan's policy of no dynamic pricing.
Correct... Or at least until the series is broken up.
[Y]Dan Francis said:hopefully it will be released as 5 individual books.
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Looking at it now, the page is up still but there is no purchase button. As already explained it would simply be an oversight as this a manual process. There is nothing more to it than that. The employee listing the prepub probably may have had no idea this was already on the Vyrso site.
Mattillo said:Ben sir
The five solas were removed from vyrso to hopefully put in logos but the below book is still in vyrso and on logos prepub. Why the difference in the five solas case?
Also I own the vyrso version but logos will allow me to buy the logos version as well...
If this product is successful will I have to buy again?
https://vyrso.com/product/44227/god-speaks
https://www.logos.com/product/45349/god-speaks-finding-hope-in-the-midst-of-hopelessness
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Any updates Ben?
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Mattillo said:
Thanks for checking.
I just checked on the status. I believe we're just waiting for final paperwork. After that's in it won't be too long
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Ben,
Can you light a fire somewhere? We are rapidly approaching that point where this series becomes irrelevant to my intent to read them before october.
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TCBlack said:
Ben,
Can you light a fire somewhere? We are rapidly approaching that point where this series becomes irrelevant to my intent to read them before october.
Here they are! https://www.logos.com/product/144686/the-five-solas-series
Hopefully not too late
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Ben,
Will there be dynamic pricing for those who have the first four volumes in Vyrso format?
I really don't want to pay $71 for a single volume.
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Kenneth Neighoff said:
Will there be dynamic pricing
Typically there isn't dynamic pricing on Z titles. [:s]
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alabama24 said:
I know Z does not typically do dynamic pricing.
It would have made more sense to release them all in Vyrso first, before moving in the Logos direction. And customer friendly to say the least.
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I'll get the team to split out Faith Alone as a single resource as there are likely a lot of people in this situation.
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Thanks Ben
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Ben,
will you you be posting the link to the Faith Alone volume on this thread?
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Kenneth Neighoff said:
Ben,
will you you be posting the link to the Faith Alone volume on this thread?
Definitely. I don't know how quickly we'll get it up, but as soon as it's up I'll post it here.
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Ben, I need this series before August. Will Faithlife be able to do that or not? I / we need a definitive answer please. I really need time to read and work with the series before I begin preaching in October.
Being on pre-pub till Mid September will not help me. Can you release the volumes you have done at least? Charge my card today and ship what's left when it is done. I need these books.
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TCBlack said:
Ben, I need this series before August. Will Faithlife be able to do that or not? I / we need a definitive answer please. I really need time to read and work with the series before I begin preaching in October.
Being on pre-pub till Mid September will not help me. Can you release the volumes you have done at least? Charge my card today and ship what's left when it is done. I need these books.
They're in production right now. Barring a miracle, they won't be available before August. The soonest they'd be ready (no promises!) would be late-mid August.
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They're in production right now. Barring a miracle, they won't be available before August. The soonest they'd be ready (no promises!) would be late-mid August.
Ok, you already had some of these in Vyrso. Is there anyway we can get hold of the vyrso versions during this prepub while we wait for the logos ones to supercede them? At least I could start out with the first one.
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Ben,
Are you going to break out the one volume that was not on Vyrso? You had indicated that you might do that.
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They're in production right now. Barring a miracle, they won't be available before August. The soonest they'd be ready (no promises!) would be late-mid August.
Hi Ben,
Why not get your team to switch on dynamic pricing?
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Bobby Terhune said:
Ben,
Are you going to break out the one volume that was not on Vyrso? You had indicated that you might do that.
Here you go folks!
https://www.logos.com/product/145018/faith-alone-the-doctrine-of-justification
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Thank you very much!
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Thanks Ben - Its very much appreciated that you were able to arrange to sell this volume separately! Keep well Paul
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When can we expect this series to be ready to ship? My church is starting a series in September and I would like to have these in my library!
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We have a ship date of 8/25
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any dynamic discount for vyrso versions we already own?
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PL said:
any dynamic discount for vyrso versions we already own?
If you own all but Faith Alone you can order that book on it's own https://www.logos.com/product/145018/faith-alone-the-doctrine-of-justification
Otherwise, there is no dynamic pricing on Zondervan collections.
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