LogosNext V6 Feedback (Closed Beta)
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Gavin Murphy said:
I thought I saw somewhere on this thread that it always opens or goes to your Preferred Bible. Sorry!
It may have been me! [:)]
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alabama24 said:
It may have been me!
The intended behaviour: If no Bible open-- open your preferred Bible. If preferred Bible is open in a tab, go to that tab. If more than once instance of your preferred Bible is open, go to last used instance of your preferred Bible.
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Eh?
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The UI thing is really bothering me in the guides. expanding/collapsing section shows/hides the UI. The pronunciation icon shows/hides UI. Sometimes hiding the top part that I’m looking at. Links thankfully don’t seem to bother. The UI needs needs to ignore those taps.
BTW: I’m a little torn on the new color scheme in guides. On the one hand the colors are great. On the other, they don’t match the rest. I don’t like the old grey either though it does match. Maybe blues... or more toward red...
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Daniel Di Bartolo said:
The intended behaviour: If no Bible open-- open your preferred Bible. If preferred Bible is open in a tab, go to that tab. If more than once instance of your preferred Bible is open, go to last used instance of your preferred Bible.
Ok, so changes to the current behavior are coming. [Y]
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This new version is really great. I really appreciate the changes it brings.
One thing I've noticed is that if I'm in a view with a definite scroll end, I cannot see what is at the bottom of the screen (the toolbar appears over it). See the screenshot below:
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Randy W. Sims said:
BTW: I’m a little torn on the new color scheme in guides.
Please, ignore my stupid. I forgot i was playing with color scheme setting. Doh!
Maybe what threw me off is that the color scheme used to change the UI colors and now it doesn't. Is that intentional?
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In the iPad version, can you please restore the old header links and behavior (i.e. clickable book name, clickable chapter name, direct Aa icon to access UI settings)?
Thanks,
Peter
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Is this part still in progress? So much wasted space here. And I can’t make out what most of it says. I need the text titles.
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I really really miss the edge swipe menu. Tap screen, tap menu is clunky to me, in comparison. I’d love to just swipe from just beyond the right edge inward to get the menu like the old version does on the left edge.
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Latest update out now - I can't see it mentioned in the release notes, but marking a daily reading as read no longer opens the next reading in a new tab.
Clicking on the reading plan from the home page seems to open a new tab each time you do it, which I personally think feels right - I might be the only one though.
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Having had just this app open for 15-20 minutes, my phone is now roasting hot - obviously optimisation is one of the last things to deal with before release, but I figured I should mention it.
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James McAdams said:
Having had just this app open for 15-20 minutes, my phone is now roasting hot - obviously optimisation is one of the last things to deal with before release, but I figured I should mention it.
If you've just updated to iOS 11, it could be the extra indexing that OS requires.
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Fixed
- Text Comparison Verse picker
- Text Comparison unexpectedly changing the referenceAwesome!
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- Toolbar jitter when going from the workspace editor -> workspaceIf this is what I think you are describing, I still see the icons on the bottom UI jump after transitioning from workspace editor to workspace.
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Improved
- Fade the bookend add worksheet icons in/out when entering/exiting linking mode
Only the bookend(s) within the viewable area are faded away.
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- Expand the grabbable area around the center of the splitterYes! Thank you!
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Randy W. Sims said:
If this is what I think you are describing, I still see the icons on the bottom UI jump after transitioning from workspace editor to workspace.
That is fixed on iOS 10.x but not 11. Known issue and we have a fix coming.
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I updated to the newest version to test and it erased all the tabs I had before, now I only have one tab. Is this expected behavior.
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Mark Barnes said:
If you've just updated to iOS 11, it could be the extra indexing that OS requires.
It’s not that - I’ve been on the developer beta from the start, and I got the GM as soon as it came out.
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I see the same thing as Kenneth. Not sure if it's the update to a new Beta version, or if it's the upgrade to iOS 11.
Thanks,
Peter
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PL said:
I see the same thing as Kenneth.
As did I. Agree: I don't know if it was the updated app or iOS (or combo of both!)
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I'm seeing a weird issue where books aren't appearing in my library. Any ideas?
Searching in v6:
Same search on v5:
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BUG: Cannot select text on the iPad.
Selecting text on the iPad is hit or miss with Logos Next, especially after the text has been highlighted. It's intermittent, but it's a miss more than a hit.
PLEASE FIX.
Please also restore the clickable Book Title and Chapter Title headers in the old app. Currently the only way to switch resources is to go to the panels view, close the original half-panel, then tap to open Library again. Too many taps, very clumsy.
Thanks.
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Regarding the Notes pane, can the most recent notes created display first, then display the rest alphabetically by title?
Not sure, but I think in 5.xxx it was completely by last edited date for all of the notes documents. But if 6xxx desires to display them alphabetically, which isn't a totally bad idea, at least display the last 5-10 most recently edited first, then display the rest by notes title. When Im working on a sermon in a notes document on my desktop, it would be nice to open up 6.xxx and see if displayed to me first in my Notes listing.
Thanks for the excellent work this far! Loving it! I love the way Faithlife listens to their users!
Myke Harbuck
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Myke Harbuck said:
Regarding the Notes pane, can the most recent notes created display first, then display the rest alphabetically by title?
Not sure, but I think in 5.xxx it was completely by last edited date for all of the notes documents. But if 6xxx desires to display them alphabetically, which isn't a totally bad idea, at least display the last 5-10 most recently edited first, then display the rest by notes title. When Im working on a sermon in a notes document on my desktop, it would be nice to open up 6.xxx and see if displayed to me first in my Notes listing.
I would like some options around sorting based on type - for example I generally want to see the most recent sermon documents but would probably prefer to have notes ordered alphabetically.
So being able to specify - on a per-user basis - for each type could be a good way forward
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Myke Harbuck said:
Regarding the Notes pane, can the most recent notes created display first, then display the rest alphabetically by title?
Thanks for the feedback, Myke. We have broad improvements coming to Notes across mobile, web app, and desktop.
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PL said:
Selecting text on the iPad is hit or miss with Logos Next, especially after the text has been highlighted. It's intermittent, but it's a miss more than a hit.
What kind of iPad are you using? What OS version are you running? Are you running the most recent TestFlight build?
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iPad mini 4, iOS 11, yes.
Issue was there under iOS 10 and on the previous TestFlight build.
Thanks,
Peter
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Is there still the ability to open an image (e.g. a map in a study bible) full screen? I couldn't figure it out last night.
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David Couch said:
Is there still the ability to open an image (e.g. a map in a study bible) full screen? I couldn't figure it out last night.
Only a few resources allowed this in the live version of the app, and nothing has changed on that front as far as I can tell. My guess is that you're trying to do it from a different resource this time, hence the different result? Just a guess, as I say.
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David Couch said:
Is there still the ability to open an image (e.g. a map in a study bible) full screen? I couldn't figure it out last night.
It looks like it's not working
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Graham Criddle said:David Couch said:
Is there still the ability to open an image (e.g. a map in a study bible) full screen? I couldn't figure it out last night.
It looks like it's not working
One of the only resources that I could do this with previously was the Faithlife Study Bible, and I'm still able to load them now - images, infographics, maps etc are all fine for me there. Are you seeing a function that works in the current app that's stopped working?
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Agreed it was always only limited
But in the currently released app I can double click an image in the ESV study Bible and it goes full screen
I cant get the same image in the same resource to go full screen in the new beta version
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I love the new approach with screens for various uses, but I don't like that when I'm in one of the screens and want to add a second window to that screen, it seems like I have to tap the screens button (2nd from right at bottom) and then tap the button in the upper right corner to add a second window to that screen. This is not as efficient as the present app behavior. There needs to be a way to do it from the open screen without having to hit the toolbar icon. If there is, it needs to be more discoverable since I haven't found it. The new system requires up to 3 taps or four if your toolbars are not showing.
UPDATE:
Also don't like that I have to go into the screens section to link my two window panes. This was much better the old way.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Hi Kevin
Very much agree with this
Graham
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Another issue I see is that it's very unstable. I've had to force close the app on my iPhone many times in just a few times using it over the last week. It seems to constantly access the internet while open, which might be contributing to this.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Not sure if you want all of these in separate replies, but that's what I'm doing for each issue I find.
I think there needs to be a way to open a book from a library and let it replace the current screen instead of open a new screen. For example, make it a long press or put a check mark in the top of the library window that says, "Replace current screen" or something like that.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Agree with all of your observations and suggestions, Kevin.
Peter
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Hello FL,
When you do a Text Comparison the tool bar on top hides the first Bible verse. Should the first verse be lower or should the tool bar hide itself after a second?
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This isn't a big deal...but every time I see it it looks weird to me. The blue color here seems inconsistent with the rest of the app. I think it used to be "Logos" blue...
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Just started testing the beta, sorry if these have been covered already…
- Opening a devotional (Sanctuary) from the home screen doesn’t seem to work. I do have this devotional in a pane shared with ESV. But tapping from the homescreen doesn’t do anything. Tapping the ESV for my Bible reading plan from the homescreen does work.
- When reading and scrolling, I find the top toolbar continually comes down and obscures the first few lines. It appears that when I lift my finger off the screen, I often make a slight downward motion. Maybe I’m ”just doing it wrong”.
- Tapping ”Mark Read” for a scripture reading results in a swiping left animation that would seem to indicate I had switched window panes, but I had not switched panes.
- Is drag and drop functionality for iOS 11 coming soon?
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David Gayle Woods said:
Tapping ”Mark Read” for a scripture reading results in a swiping left animation that would seem to indicate I had switched window panes, but I had not switched panes.
Actually, you have. There is a bug where a new tab is created, so it really did "switch panes." In my opinion, it is a pain!
David Gayle Woods said:Is drag and drop functionality for iOS 11 coming soon?
Nothing mentioned.
David Gayle Woods said:When reading and scrolling, I find the top toolbar continually comes down and obscures the first few lines.
yes, annoying!
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Dear Faithlife friends,
PLEASE! Is there anyway Mobile Ed videos can launch in NON-full screen mode. It would be nice to be able to watch the video and take notes ALL INSIDE THE APP, without having to do a split screen with the iOS app and the Web App, as we must do now.
Im not sure who made the decision to force full screen only on us, but, in my opinion, it was a poor one. At this point all one can do is WATCH...one can't take notes, highlight, read long in the transcripts, look up Bible verses in a Bible...nothing. Just....watch. Ugh,
This was brought up several times previously over the last couple years. I was hoping this would be addressed in 6.xxx. Why not??
Myke Harbuck
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Concerning the “Mark Read”… I’ve been watching this more, and what appears to happen is that if you have multiple windows of the same Bible open, it switches you from the window pane you are on to another one. I am not seeing it actually open up a new pane. And, if you close the other panes of the same Bible, it is not opening a new one for me.
Also, a little more concerning the problem of the devotional not opening from the home screen… if the devotional is not active in a window pane, it will open. But if the devotional is open already, it will not work. I do not have the devotional downloaded for LogosNext; I am not sure if that has anything to do with this behavior (I have had internet connection throughout, so that is not the issue).
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Myke Harbuck said:
Im not sure who made the decision to force full screen only on us, but, in my opinion, it was a poor one. At this point all one can do is WATCH...one can't take notes, highlight, read long in the transcripts, look up Bible verses in a Bible...nothing. Just....watch. Ugh,
As you mentioned, this is an often suggested feature-- and something that we should definitely have. Improvements to the Mobile Ed experience are one of our priorities in the next year.
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David Gayle Woods said:
And, if you close the other panes of the same Bible, it is not opening a new one for me.
OK, I am seeing this now, which means that the original bug has been fixed. Good news! The bug you found, however, still needs to be fixed.
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Hi Daniel Di Bartolo,
This is David Wang, a long time Logos user of PC & Android devices.
So happy that your excellent team is creating an even better app for users.
I'm really looking forward that it contains one function for us. Is it possible to add the chang contents fonts function to LogosNext V6 ?
Especially in Android platform, just let it can choose Android embedded system fonts ( or can with additional function that allow user to define the fonts' patch, then utilize the fonts in the app ).
If it's possible would be great help for long time reading in Android devices.
Thank you very much!
Best regards.
David.
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Daniel, I would love to be envoled for the public beta release as well. Was envoled in the other format betas, and would like to be apart of this as well.
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Trying the new update. The animation of opening a new tab and changing tabs by swiping is really great. Much easier to visualise what is happening.
The highlighting bug is back however.
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Daniel Di Bartolo said:
Provide feedback and bug reports on LogosNext V6 here. You need to be invited to join the LogosNext Beta. We'll be releasing a public Beta soon.
Hi Daniel, could I please be invited to join this Beta as well? Thanks! André Kamphuis
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I’ve noticed that on my iPad Pro, the syncing of the screens is great. I have my Bible and note open in one screen and commentary on another one. However, I hate having to tap to bring up the toolbar at the bottom where I can switch screens. I can use a two finger swipe to switch quickly, but that’s not obvious. I’d like to be able to turn on the toolbars and leave them on all the time. I think that was possible on the current stable release. If it is on the Next beta, I can’t find it.
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With the most recent beta, tapping on the devotional reading from the homescreen will open the devotional, but then you are immediately taken back to the homescreen - causing a bit of visual whiplash.
Concerning the image of the day… if you have the app in splitview, taking up 1/3rd of the screen and tap the image (which has been resized to fit the available width) to view it by itself, the image in the window now opened is cut off. I played around with opening some of the images from other apps while in splitview. Those images are cut off a bit, but also seem to resize somewhat so that they don’t appear to be cut off as bad. But… the difference may be more in that the image of the day is landscape orientation and these other images are more portrait sized.
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