Bible Browser and Fuzzy Bible Search

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)
Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 991
edited November 20 in English Forum

On Friday, we added Fuzzy Bible Search to our Starter, Full, and Extended Feature sets and Bible Browser to our Full Feature Set.

We believe that both of these tools add a lot of value for customers who do not have access to Logos Now. Both tools are designed to be useful for anyone doing Bible study—from the beginner up to the expert.

Learn more about Fuzzy Bible Search here and Bible Browser here.

As of Friday, every new and existing owner of Starter Feature Set and up now has access to Fuzzy Bible Search, and every new and existing owner of Full Feature Set now has access to Bible Browser.

Thanks!

Senior Director, Content Products


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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,629 ✭✭✭

    WOW!! Thanks, Ben!

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  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭

    On Friday, we added Fuzzy Bible Search to our Starter, Full, and Extended Feature sets and Bible Browser to our Full Feature Set.

    We believe that both of these tools add a lot of value for customers who do not have access to Logos Now. Both tools are designed to be useful for anyone doing Bible study—from the beginner up to the expert.

    As of Friday, every new and existing owner of Starter Feature Set and up now has access to Fuzzy Bible Search, and every new and existing owner of Full Feature Set now has access to Bible Browser.

    Thanks!

    Wow!!! Thank you sir.  Do these changes just update automatically?

  • Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)
    Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 991

    Mattillo said:

    Wow!!! Thank you sir.  Do these changes just update automatically?

    They should have. If not, try updating your software.

    Senior Director, Content Products


  • Juanita
    Juanita Member Posts: 1,339

    Very grateful for these additions and most pleasantly surprised!

  • Virgil Buttram
    Virgil Buttram Member Posts: 358

    Mattillo said:

    Wow!!! Thank you sir.  Do these changes just update automatically?

    They should have. If not, try updating your software.

    I haven't received this update. Product comparison page shows that Bible Browser is the only feature from the Logos 7 Full Feature Set that shows up as "New To You". Manual update does not find any new updates available.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,636

    I haven't received this update. Product comparison page shows that Bible Browser is the only feature from the Logos 7 Full Feature Set that shows up as "New To You". Manual update does not find any new updates available.

    Are you saying you don't have access to either Fuzzy Search or the Bible Browser? Or that you have access to Fuzzy Search but not the Bible Browser?

    Which Logos 7 Feature Set have you purchased?

  • Virgil Buttram
    Virgil Buttram Member Posts: 358

    Graham Criddle said:

    I haven't received this update. Product comparison page shows that Bible Browser is the only feature from the Logos 7 Full Feature Set that shows up as "New To You". Manual update does not find any new updates available.

    Are you saying you don't have access to either Fuzzy Search or the Bible Browser? Or that you have access to Fuzzy Search but not the Bible Browser?

    Which Logos 7 Feature Set have you purchased?

    I did not have access to Bible Browser. As I investigated further, I noticed that I could purchase the Logos 7 Full Feature Set at a cost of $0.00. I did so, and I now have the Bible Browser (and, likely, Fuzzy Search as well; I need to track down how to access that one, though).

    Your last question reminded me that I had purchased the Verbum 7 Full Feature Set. This is the most likely explanation for what I encountered.

    All is now well for me on this subject. Thanks for the quick assist!

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,636

    (and, likely, Fuzzy Search as well; I need to track down how to access that one, though).

    Fuzzy Bible search is introduced and outlined at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/132569.aspx 

    All is now well for me on this subject. Thanks for the quick assist!

    Glad you have it working....

  • Leo Wee Fah
    Leo Wee Fah Member Posts: 593 ✭✭

    Thanks FL & Ben, for making available Fuzzy Bible Search and Bible Browser to us.[Y]

  • Leo Wee Fah
    Leo Wee Fah Member Posts: 593 ✭✭

    Thanks FL & Ben, for making available Fuzzy Bible Search and Bible Browser to us.[Y]

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭

    Thank you, Ben!  I see these as very practical and significant core-value features that do a lot to boost the value of Logos to the entire current Logos community as well as to prospective customers comparing Logos to other Bible software apps.

    In regard to the Fuzzy Bible search though, unless Faithlife intends to expand fuzzy search capabilities to other resources, I don't at all follow the logic of  locating it under the "Basic" search category instead of the "Bible" search category. 

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,770

    I don't at all follow the logic of  locating it under the "Basic" search category instead of the "Bible" search category. 

    I agree that Fuzzy would be more accessible as a sub-category of Bible. There is also the idiosyncracy of having separate Atlas and Factbook sub-categories under Basic when they (as well as Fuzzy) appear under Everything.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Phil Gons (Logos)
    Phil Gons (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 3,799

    I don't at all follow the logic of  locating it under the "Basic" search category instead of the "Bible" search category. 

    I agree that Fuzzy would be more accessible as a sub-category of Bible. There is also the idiosyncracy of having separate Atlas and Factbook sub-categories under Basic when they (as well as Fuzzy) appear under Everything.

    Adding it to Everything Search was easiest, so it went there first. We plan to add it to Bible Search as well. I'll make sure it's in our backlog for an upcoming development sprint.

    The web app already has it in Bible search. We didn't have the same technical constraints there as we do in desktop. Eventually, it'll likely be in both places on both platforms.

  • John Connell
    John Connell Member Posts: 477

    This is pretty funny.  I just subscribed to Logos Now to get Fuzzy Bible Search and the Bible Browser mainly. Ah well. I am sure to get full value for my subscription anyway. . .

     

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  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭✭

    On Friday, we added Fuzzy Bible Search to our Starter, Full, and Extended Feature sets and Bible Browser to our Full Feature Set.

    We believe that both of these tools add a lot of value for customers who do not have access to Logos Now. Both tools are designed to be useful for anyone doing Bible study—from the beginner up to the expert.

    Learn more about Fuzzy Bible Search here and Bible Browser here.

    As of Friday, every new and existing owner of Starter Feature Set and up now has access to Fuzzy Bible Search, and every new and existing owner of Full Feature Set now has access to Bible Browser.

    Thanks!

    Thanks Ben! This is great!

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭

    I don't at all follow the logic of  locating it under the "Basic" search category instead of the "Bible" search category. 

    I agree that Fuzzy would be more accessible as a sub-category of Bible. There is also the idiosyncracy of having separate Atlas and Factbook sub-categories under Basic when they (as well as Fuzzy) appear under Everything.

    Adding it to Everything Search was easiest, so it went there first. We plan to add it to Bible Search as well. I'll make sure it's in our backlog for an upcoming development sprint.

    The web app already has it in Bible search. We didn't have the same technical constraints there as we do in desktop. Eventually, it'll likely be in both places on both platforms.

    Thanks for explaining it, Phil!  [:)]

  • Jens Randolff
    Jens Randolff Member Posts: 1

    I want to thank Logos for their decision to make the Bible Browser Tool available outside of the the Logos 7 Extended Feature Set. Many of us longtime loyal customers were initially very disappointed, if not outright angry, that this resource had been tied to a specific product upgrade/purchase. The fact that you read our complaints and listened to our concerns has greatly helped to restore my faith in your company. Again, thank you and may God bless you all.

  • Schumitinu
    Schumitinu Member Posts: 570

    On Friday, we added Fuzzy Bible Search to our Starter, Full, and Extended Feature sets and Bible Browser to our Full Feature Set.

    Thank you very much!

  • Richard Villanueva
    Richard Villanueva Member Posts: 510 ✭✭

    On Friday, we added Fuzzy Bible Search to our Starter, Full, and Extended Feature sets and Bible Browser to our Full Feature Set.

    Just saw this!  This is pretty dang cool and figured a bump might be a good idea.  

    My thoughts were that these would be future paid Logos 8 features (which would have been fine), but to roll them out to current Logos 7 owners is generous IMHO! I know it's been mentioned about how it can be frustrating to have to pay to update year after year to stay "current."  I've accepted that as the norm for tech and software, but I appreciate this move to give access to the Web App, Fuzzy Search, and Bible Browser to existing L7'ers.

    In that vein, I'm curious what's next for Logos Now? Onwards and upwards into the text!

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  • Daniel Radke
    Daniel Radke Member Posts: 235 ✭✭

    On Friday, we added Fuzzy Bible Search to our Starter, Full, and Extended Feature sets

    This is fantastic! I used to have to use Google for locating Bible verses of which I only had partial recollection. Now, not only does the Fuzzy Bible Search do the same job, but it does it better by giving me other Scripture verses that relate! Wow, I am grateful! Thanks Faithlife for the generosity in rolling out this feature to current Logos 7 users!

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  • Rob Golding
    Rob Golding Member Posts: 33

    I'm unable to access FBS. I have the Starter package from Logos 6, updated to 7. I'm set to automatically update, and I've tried manually updating (no updates available). I've also restarted the program and my machine (Mac on OS 11). Any help would be appreciated. I'd really like to use FBS!

  • Rob Golding
    Rob Golding Member Posts: 33

    I just did the free upgrade. Is that why I don't have access?

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,636

    I just did the free upgrade. Is that why I don't have access?

    Yes.

    you need one of the Logos 7 feature sets or a Logos Now subscription 

  • Rob Golding
    Rob Golding Member Posts: 33

    Bummer, I thought it was for any starter package. That makes sense though. Except for the fact that versions 4/5 had "Speed Search" which was basically the same thing. I'd settle for that!

    Anyway, thanks for your help!

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,636

    By Speed Search are you referring to the option to start searching while typing.

    If so, its still there but not the same as Fuzzy search

    From the help file:

    Choose which type of Bible search to run
    1. Use the default Search to begin the search after entering the query, choosing a suggested match from the drop-down list, and pressing Enter (or clicking the Go arrow).
    2. Click on Search and choose Search (while typing) to begin the search as you type.
    • No suggested matches will appear.
    • Results begin generating right away, and will dynamically change with the query as it changes.

  • Rob Golding
    Rob Golding Member Posts: 33

    Yes, I’ve used that. My machine lags a bit so it doesn’t really work better than google for me. I remember it being faster on the older versions of Logos / Libronoz but maybe it’s just because the grass is always greener on the other Side. Thanks for your response!

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,629 ✭✭✭

    I remember it being faster on the older versions of Logos / Libronoz but maybe it’s just because the grass is always greener on the other Side.

    No maybe's. The grass WAS always greener on the Libby side.

    And indeed, still is. Snappy fast, still those crispy gorgeous fonts. Oh, and did I mention, not only a fuzzy search of AYB? But her very own BDAG search. How's that? Many have suggested Libby was the best software ever written (I made that up).  But a few doubters say, no, Libby was the best 'Bible' software ever written. I'd reluctantly agree on the latter.

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