Cross Reference Guide

Are there any other cross reference works available for purchase that would specifically show up in the Cross References Guide? I currently have The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge.

The New Treasure of Scripture Knowledge also shows up

Strangely - even with that additional resource - I get fewer results than you are showing.

I don't know why!

Are there any other cross reference works available for purchase that would specifically show up in the Cross References Guide? I currently have The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge.

There is this https://www.logos.com/product/1214/the-new-treasury-of-scripture-knowledge which is included in this bundle for less https://www.logos.com/product/38869/jon-coursons-application-commentary-new-testament 

Well that's odd...for Romans 12:19? I wonder if there's a Logos Pro out there that knows why Graham is seeing less results. I would hope that if I added this resource, I'd see more results, not less.

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/84638.aspx 

Apologies - I've just seen I posted the wrong screenshot. Here is mine for Romans 12:9 showing just 21 results in the lower section

As per the link Randy pointed to - thanks Randy I remember that discussion! - the top half is simply links to cross-reference resources. In this case with NTSK giving more results than TSK and results that are not included in my list in the lower section

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/84638/603814.aspx#603814 has a list of those Bibles that should appear in the lower half of the section along with the ones listed by Mark Barnes at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/84638/593790.aspx#593790 

On the face of it - after a cursory check - my results look reasonable, with the exception of Ps 36:4 from ISVNT not being included

It would be fascinating to know where John's additional 40 cross references come from[:)]

But - back to the original question - having NTSK will give you a source of additional cross references over TSK.

It would be fascinating to know where John's additional 40 cross references come from

John used Romans 12:19 while you used Romans 12:9.

John used Romans 12:19 while you used Romans 12:9.

That would make a difference, thanks. I'm not doing very well on this thread[:$]

But even with the correct verse I get fewer cross references than John does

I counted the individual passages, and I only have 17, even though the bottom of the page says, "Open 61 passages in ESV." 

I think that you are showing more passages, but for some reason, Logos is miscounting them. That would be a bug worth fixing.

I counted the individual passages, and I only have 17, even though the bottom of the page says, "Open 61 passages in ESV." 

I think that you are showing more passages, but for some reason, Logos is miscounting them. That would be a bug worth fixing.

Very interesting.

Thanks John

Here is mine for Romans 12:9 showing just 21 results in the lower section

Personally show 27 passages for Romans 12:9 and 33 passages for Romans 12:19

Keep Smiling [:)]

So if I understand the issue (based on the other thread that was linked to earlier), the "Cross Reference Guide" is under-representing all the cross references within Logos. It looks like only the TNTSK and TSK are being populated, when it should also be populating every single Bible which contains the cross-references trait. Am I correct in my understanding?

It looks like only the TNTSK and TSK are being populated, when it should also be populating every single Bible which contains the cross-references trait. Am I correct in my understanding?

No - or at least I read it differently[:)]

As I understand it the top section is simply those resources which are identified as containing cross-references - TSK and NTSK. This is not linked in any way to the verses shown in the lower section and to see the cross references contained in these resources you need to click on them and they open to the correct place

The lower section is pulled from Bibles with the appropriate trait set and with cross-references and it is this which is causing me some confusion with the different number of results returned. I think it has to be a consequence of different Bibles in different people's libraries but we would need to do quite a bit of checking to verify that.

OK that makes a lot of sense, now I'm catching on. I guess I'm walking away from this thread then with two things...

(1) It would be ideal if the lower section in the "Cross Reference Guide" could aggregate all cross references from all combined resources (i.e. TNTSK + TSK + Bibles with appropriate trait). At a minimum, it would be nice if the upper section contained a drop down arrow to the left of the resource (i.e. TSK, TNTSK) which allowed you to see all appropriate cross references without the need to open up the resource.

(2) An explanation (or fix) on why the lower section is returning an incorrect number of results.

OK that makes a lot of sense, now I'm catching on. I guess I'm walking away from this thread then with two things...

(1) It would be ideal if the lower section in the "Cross Reference Guide" could aggregate all cross references from all combined resources (i.e. TNTSK + TSK + Bibles with appropriate trait). At a minimum, it would be nice if the upper section contained a drop down arrow to the left of the resource (i.e. TSK, TNTSK) which allowed you to see all appropriate cross references without the need to open up the resource.

(2) An explanation (or fix) on why the lower section is returning an incorrect number of results.

1. I agree, that would be really nice. Unfortunately, there are currently no plans to create a new tagging mechanism that would be required to allow the program to extract this information from those resources.

2. The lower section is an aggregate of all the footnotes in all the Bibles you own that contain specially tagged cross-reference footnotes. Depending on which Bibles you own, you will see different numbers of results.

Thanks for the info Andrew.

(1) I'd like to request that feature, I'll head on over to the feature request page and list it there.

(2) Why does the actual number of results not match the number at the bottom of the page? In my earlier screenshot of Romans 12:19, there are 17 passages. However it says at the bottom of the page, "Open 61 passages in ESV."

(2) Why does the actual number of results not match the number at the bottom of the page? In my earlier screenshot of Romans 12:19, there are 17 passages. However it says at the bottom of the page, "Open 61 passages in ESV."

It's because when we go to display the list of references, we collapse duplicate and overlapping references, but we don't correct the count to match. I'll create a case to fix this behavior.

Thanks! That would be great.

John