Logos Now Subscription
Is it still possible to purchase a Logos Now subscription month to month?
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Robert Peters said:
Is it still possible to purchase a Logos Now subscription month to month?
I believe it is only possible to purchase an annual subscription
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I have been very disappointed of the drop of new material once they transitioned to just the annual rate.
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I’m kind of disappointed, too. I just re-upped, but it may be the last time. And the monthly free book for LN members — well, I’d rather have one contemporary book I’ll use than 12 PD titles I’ll never use.
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Paul Strickert said:
I’d rather have one contemporary book I’ll use than 12 PD titles I’ll never use.
I agree! Or at least some stuff from the 1950s on. I dont care if they are new or not, just not from another era. lol
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Paul Strickert said:
I’d rather have one contemporary book I’ll use than 12 PD titles I’ll never use.
The difference, of course, is that FL doesn't have to pay anyone for the PD title. The "cost" to FL is simply the work they have put into the title themselves. If they give you some other title, there would be an actual loss to them (having to pay the publisher for the title they gave you).
I understand what you are saying, but I am glad for them nevertheless. There are enough titles of interest, plus there is the ability to dynamically lower other packages through the acquisitions.
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I’m only speaking for myself. I know why they do it, cost-wise; but to me, this so-called perk for LN membership has next to no value at all. And really, that’s what I need to decide for myself: am I getting fair value for the cost of LN membership? In the beginning, it was a no-brainer; now, not so much.
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I'm of the same mind- starting to evaluate the product and decide if I will be renewing after this current subscription, the only thing keeping me at this point are the free preview items, but even that is started to lose its luster.
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I am probably not going to renew either. I bought the Large Essential Upgrade when it was on sale last year, there hasn't been a lot of new features or things to make me really want to keep paying a $100 a year
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Back when it started Bob said he was going to make it so it would be hard to refuse. As time goes forward the value of Logos Now seems to disappear for me as well. I was grateful for the Logos 7 on the first day because I was a now member, but when I finally upgraded nothing new happened and it was disappointing to say the least.
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Matt Hamrick said:
Back when it started Bob said he was going to make it so it would be hard to refuse. As time goes forward the value of Logos Now seems to disappear
I think the original selling point for me was early access to features. Yet there's no early access L8 feature I regularly use (or would miss).
The icing on the cake was discounts, and it was well worth getting LN just for the savings. LN certainly paid for itself many times over.
If there's no killer early access feature to keep me hooked, I might subscribe for the savings, then let it lapse until it's time to save again.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Logos Now looks dead to me when they stop giving usable updates for average users. (Since February 2017, Logos 7.4) .. (except v.7.9)
Plus the web-app is free now (thanks). I don't see a reason to resubscribe since that was the main reason I subscribe.
All Logos do just "upgrade performance".. for me that kinda a lazy move. Sorry Logos, I have to be honest.
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Same here - the bloom is off the rose... Not much benefit to maintaining Logos Now when the annual subscription expires unless Faithlife makes some changes. Just anecdotally (from reading the forums), it looks like Faithlife may be about to lose a large revenue stream since they have not maintained its value-added promise. Too bad for them (and us).
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I disagree. Yes the L8 feature updates have been slow and disappointing but for me where I get my money is through the discounts and free FLTV access. If I remember correctly, FLTV was $5/month ($60/year). I was paying for that anyway so for me the extra cost of $39 I got some discounts, a coupon code every now and then, and discounts on exclusive resources. If you don't buy anything probably not worth it but if you like FLTV then I think it is great. With that said I do wish the discounts, exclusive sales, and free book were a smidge better.
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I agree.
Very few new features. Most point updates (like 7.5 to 7.6) shouldn't be point updates, they barely deliver anything.
Preview books are also mainly now from T&T Clark, which don't have any value for most of us I guess.
Free books are also not of much value.
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Just as an FYI, if you are feeling like new things haven't been added to Logos Now in the releases, it could be because you've only been looking at the application release notes, which include changes to the application, but not things like new datasets and reverse interlinears which are released as new or updated resources.
Take a look at this link for a larger picture of what's new across the releases:
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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Public domain is a political question. Works that would fall into the public domain are prevented from doing so by acts of Congress amending copyright law. Lobbyjng to have everything published before 50 years ago,1968, in the public domain is not unreasonable.
I think that much political and religious ignorance is caused by the unavailability of older works because of cost to public under license. I recall a larger public domain of much more recent works in my youth in the 1960s. It certainly helped with my education.
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Now, Ed. Let’s not cut senior Christian authors off at the knees. Sure, they have walkers.
In 1968, my authoring Dad was well into his authoring talents and still writing at almost 90. 50 yrs is peanuts for today’s young codgers.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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One of the benefits that we don't mention very often is Pre-Pub Price Guarantee.
LN extends the 6-month coverage to 12 months. I was just able to save $19 on a pre-pub I bought 7 months ago, when it went on sale this month for less than what I paid.
If I didn't have Logos Now, I'd have missed out on getting that credit. Thankful that LN is helping out in this unexpected way.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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I just signed up for Logos Now. Holy cow! It is a life-changer. The biblical language features are phenomenal, and I'm using the Sermon feature. I wasn't aware that FaithLife TV is included. Does that include The John Ankerberg Show? If it is, that alone is worth the price.
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No ankerberg is extra
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Thanks, but [:(]
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PetahChristian said:
I think the original selling point for me was early access to features. Yet there's no early access L8 feature I regularly use (or would miss).
The icing on the cake was discounts, and it was well worth getting LN just for the savings. LN certainly paid for itself many times over.
If there's no killer early access feature to keep me hooked, I might subscribe for the savings, then let it lapse until it's time to save again.
This is exactly how I feel. However, I purchased several years of subscription when LN was at a discount. So I cannot drop out at the moment. Still, I saved a lot due to the LN discount for base packages.
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Spot on Mattilo. While I agree with a lot , but not all, of what others have said are areas where Logos Now’s Halo has slipped, the reasons you point out are why I still consider I am getting value from the program.
Mattillo said:I disagree. Yes the L8 feature updates have been slow and disappointing but for me where I get my money is through the discounts and free FLTV access. If I remember correctly, FLTV was $5/month ($60/year). I was paying for that anyway so for me the extra cost of $39 I got some discounts, a coupon code every now and then, and discounts on exclusive resources. If you don't buy anything probably not worth it but if you like FLTV then I think it is great. With that said I do wish the discounts, exclusive sales, and free book were a smidge better.
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Yeah I have a couple of months to decide...I guess it’s hard to tell with academic discount
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Mattillo said:
... but for me where I get my money is through the discounts and free FLTV access. If I remember correctly, FLTV was $5/month ($60/year). I was paying for that anyway so for me the extra cost of $39 I got some discounts, a coupon code every now and then, and discounts on exclusive resources.
Is the free access to FLTV a permanent part of LN? I thought this was only a temporary thing.
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In reality everything in Logos Now is temporary. It’s a membership program that can and has evolved. You are correct it is listed as temporary. That way it gives FL an out if they need to stop offering it for whatever reason. If it was stopped being offered then it might change my view but it might not because other things might have been put in its place that I feel are of value to me.
The other point to consider is this is a year in which based on what FL has said in past we may well see Logos 8. If you are intending to purchase any new base package(s) of resources you will potentially recoup your Logos Now subscription.
Armin said:Mattillo said:... but for me where I get my money is through the discounts and free FLTV access. If I remember correctly, FLTV was $5/month ($60/year). I was paying for that anyway so for me the extra cost of $39 I got some discounts, a coupon code every now and then, and discounts on exclusive resources.
Is the free access to FLTV a permanent part of LN? I thought this was only a temporary thing.
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A friend is trying to sign up for Now and can’t find a way.
Literally impossible from Logos website at the moment.
Seems like they might be dropping it?
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Confirmed in chat with sales rep - they stopped selling it today!
thanks for the notice Faithlife
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I don’t know if it was required but I called them. I already had my card and stuff in my account so everything was easy as pie. My LN subscription was active before I got off the phone.
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Andrew116 said:
Confirmed in chat with sales rep - they stopped selling it today!
thanks for the notice Faithlife
Is this true? I wonder what that means for people who were already subscribed for more than one year or those who are still in the middle of their membership?
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Andrew116 said:
Literally impossible from Logos website at the moment.
Wow, you're right. http://logos.com/now brings you to Faithlife Connect which appears to be Logos Cloud rebranding (since its pricing tiers let you determine how many resources you rent a month).
You can't get to the Logos Now product page on the store, since it now redirects to Faithlife Connect.
Also the Logos Now product isn't appearing in the right (this title is included in) sidebar anymore.
I'm stymied.
Andrew116 said:Seems like they might be dropping it?
I can't imagine how this could be possible. Many of us still prefer to rent features but own books. We already may have large libraries, and would have no need to sign up for Logos Cloud.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Going to start a new thread asking faithlife to respond
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We have an exciting announcement coming very soon—we're still getting a few things finalized. Stay tuned for details.
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Chris duMond said:
We have an exciting announcement coming very soon—we're still getting a few things finalized. Stay tuned for details.
[:|]
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Keith Pang said:
I wonder what that means for people who were already subscribed for more than one year or those who are still in the middle of their membership?
You have a legal contract which Faithlife must honor but may choose to not renew.
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Just today, I was telling my wife how awesome this subscription is. The language tools alone are worth the price. The Sermon Editor allows me to automatically make my slides (though I wish you could edit the background within the Editor).
Several people are saying it's not valuable, but it has blown my expectations out of the water.
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I don't know if I would call the announcement exciting; I have some adjectives in mind but exciting is not one of them ...
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josh jacobs said:
Just today, I was telling my wife how awesome this subscription is. The language tools alone are worth the price. The Sermon Editor allows me to automatically make my slides (though I wish you could edit the background within the Editor).
Several people are saying it's not valuable, but it has blown my expectations out of the water.
I have also recently told my wife how much I enjoyed Logos now. However, as we cannot afford to spend 2.4 times the previous price to keep it going, I will be letting the subscription lapse.
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This release could be entitled as "How to take a great and successful product and kill it" OR "How to turn off a happy customer base" It reminds me of Tim Hortons always discontinuing my favourite doughnuts (?)
Maybe I am missing something but it doesn't make sense.I have received a coupon code from FL that I will probably use to buy the datasets. I kind of liked Now and would probably keep paying each year but as I understand the new system it is more money for the same. Never should have bought into the whole subscription pitch.........
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Mike Tourangeau said:
I have received a coupon code from FL that I will probably use to buy the datasets.
Grateful for the coupon code. Hopefully saving mine for an L8 feature set (to get all the L8 early access datasets that have been a part of our LN subscription). L8 introductory pricing will also add to the savings, if you can wait it out.
For anyone who's looking to get a feature set, make sure to check out the pricing on Logos 7 (or 8) Essential Upgrades. They may be a better deal than buying a feature set by itself.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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What coupon are you talking about?
PetahChristian said:Mike Tourangeau said:I have received a coupon code from FL that I will probably use to buy the datasets.
Grateful for the coupon code. Hopefully saving mine for an L8 feature set (to get all the L8 early access datasets that have been a part of our LN subscription). L8 introductory pricing will also add to the savings, if you can wait it out.
For anyone who's looking to get a feature set, make sure to check out the pricing on Logos 7 (or 8) Essential Upgrades. They may be a better deal than buying a feature set by itself.
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Disciple of Christ (doc) said:
What coupon are you talking about?
If you are present Now subscriber, you should get a mail. They seem to be going out in phases. They have a coupon code that varies probably according to how many years you subscribed for.
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I have not received an email and have been with Now since the start and have never change my email since I registered my first Logos product many years ago. Thanks for the information Sean, hopefully I get an email soon, I would like some answers before I go to bed tonight in a couple of hours.
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Ditto no email for me either I feel better that I am not the only one.
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martin lohstroh said:
Ditto no email for me either I feel better that I am not the only one.
I received mine a few hours after other people had, so I think it may be into tomorrow before everyone gets.
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I highly suspect that the launch of Logos 8 is going to be highly intertwined in a big way with Faithlife Connect... what that will look like, I suspect that rather than buying a feature set, you will be purchasing a discounted subscription. For those who have taken the plunge already, you will get a coupon.
I could be wrong... see you in October/November!
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
I highly suspect that the launch of Logos 8 is going to be highly intertwined in a big way with Faithlife Connect...
Let's hope not. So far they haven't forced those of use who prefer to buy into a rental model. That might be a deal-breaker for me.
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