Vyrso is becoming Faithlife Ebooks
Hi, Vyrso forum members! I’m a new Faithlife employee who is taking on the role of marketing manager for Vyrso. I wanted to post on here to introduce myself and to let you know about some changes that will be coming to Vyrso in the next few weeks.
In February, Vyrso is becoming Faithlife Ebooks. It will get a new retail site and include some new deals from publishers on books that we think you are really going to enjoy. I’ve been working with the amazing Carley Ruffner to get more books on the site, and we will both be working with a newly-hired product manager to continue bringing you more great Christian ebooks.
Please me know if you have any questions. We’re looking forward to this next chapter of bringing great content and deals to our Vyrso readers!
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What will happen to the Vyrso app? Does it also get renamed? "Faithlife Reader" or something like that?
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The Vyrso app will be updated to be called "Faithlife Ebooks." The functionality in the app will be the same as it is now.
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This is awesome news!!! I love vyrso and I talk with Carley regularly. I really hope you can start getting more high quality and popular books into the store and I look forward to your changes
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Thanks! We're looking forward to bringing in new content and making sure that our existing books are updated as new editions come out. Once the product manager arrives (in February), she can keep you posted on new books as we get them into the store.
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Great! With the new site design... Will wishlist functionality be added?
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Natalie Mills said:
Please me know if you have any questions
Welcome to FL, Natalie.
I would like to see the ability to sort by language added to the sites' functionality. Please consider this option. Thanks.
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Those are both great ideas. The wishlist feature will not be on the site when it first launches, but it is high on our priority list to get added to the site. I'll add language sorting to our list of requested features as well. Thanks!
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Welcome, Natalie, looking forward to the changes!
Will FL add cross-site search results? It's not really practical to expect customers to repeat a search on two or three sites. I will search Logos for a book, but often forget to search Vyrso (and have never searched Noet).
The other issue involves books that hadn't been removed from Vyrso and upgraded to Logos editions. Any chance that FL can depend less on customers to report issues, and more on technology to preemptively catch duplicates and resolve problems before a Logos pre-pub ships?
Thanks!
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:
Will FL add cross-site search results? It's not really practical to expect customers to repeat a search on two or three sites. I will search Logos for a book, but often forget to search Vyrso (and have never searched Noet).
This is precisely how I do it, but would appreciate 1 search to cover all portals.
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We should be able, I figure, to get from Logos to Noet + FL Books from the Sales/Main page as well as from the headings: Products, and, Sales.
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scooter said:
This is precisely how I do it, but would appreciate 1 search to cover all portals.
I would, also. I think a search on the Logos web site should give the option to search Vyrso (E-books). (I don't think that should be available on the Vyrso site since that might be confusing.)
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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This sounds really awesome. I'm excited! Vyrso... er Faithlife Ebooks is headed for growth!
If there's going to be a major update to the Vyrso API as well, I'd really appreciate to know about this a couple of days ahead of time, so that I can adapt my autodiscovery scripts for eBook freebies and ebook deals. There are a couple of hundred recipients to whom the scripts send out messages, and who don't want to miss any free books :-)
Is Noet Ebooks going to be revamped as well?
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Greetings Natalie;
Any chance of getting 1 unified checkout cart for Vyrso and Logos?
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Erwin Stull, Sr. said:
Greetings Natalie;
Any chance of getting 1 unified checkout cart for Vyrso and Logos?
If this comes to fruition, one might as well add Noet in with FL ebooks + Logos in this scenario.
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I'm not sure yet what the future holds for cross-store searching, but we are investigating what that would look like. It won't be on the site at launch, but it's a feature that we've discussed for a long time. It would be great to have!
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Thanks for the encouragement! We're excited to be bringing more life into the Vyrso universe. As of now, Noet Ebooks won't be getting any modifications. For the Vyrso API, I'll have to look into that with someone from our production team and get back to you. Thanks!Jan Krohn said:This sounds really awesome. I'm excited! Vyrso... er Faithlife Ebooks is headed for growth!
If there's going to be a major update to the Vyrso API as well, I'd really appreciate to know about this a couple of days ahead of time, so that I can adapt my autodiscovery scripts for eBook freebies and ebook deals. There are a couple of hundred recipients to whom the scripts send out messages, and who don't want to miss any free books :-)
Is Noet Ebooks going to be revamped as well?
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scooter said:Erwin Stull, Sr. said:
Greetings Natalie;
Any chance of getting 1 unified checkout cart for Vyrso and Logos?
If this comes to fruition, one might as well add Noet in with FL ebooks + Logos in this scenario.
Yes, it will be nice. The separation, for business purposes, can be done behind the scenes.
There is a consumer purpose for asking this. [:)] Some debit type cards charge per transaction (usually a dollar). You can put as many items in the cart as you want, and at checkout, the card company will charge $1 for the transaction. If you go to another site (in this case, Logos), there will be another $1 transaction cost.
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Natalie Mills said:
Vyrso is becoming Faithlife Ebooks
Welcome, Natalie. Happy to hear of some of the planned changes.
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Welcome.
Really excited to hear this. Now if only Faithlife Ebooks can get Harper One titles to become available for purchase.
Some that come to mind:
Dallas Willard
1. The Spirit of the Disciplines
2. Divine Conspiracy
N.T. Wright
1. The Day the Revolution Begins
2. Forthcoming Book on Paul
3. How God Became King
Here's hoping!
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I have one more for the wish list:
- Please allow paying with Logos store credit.
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Mark Smith said:scooter said:
This is precisely how I do it, but would appreciate 1 search to cover all portals.
I would, also. I think a search on the Logos web site should give the option to search Vyrso (E-books). (I don't think that should be available on the Vyrso site since that might be confusing.)
I agree that it can be frustrating to have to head to different sites to search for products (vyrso, noet, logos). At the same time, I would not want to go to the Logos store and have to sort through tons of novels when I am searching for academic products. So whichever way the ability to search from logos.com is done, it should be done intelligently so as to allow users to search what they want and leave out what they don't want. Perhaps sorting categories will do the trick?
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Jan Krohn said:
I have one more for the wish list:
- Please allow paying with Logos store credit.
Jan
You can do this. I do it by having a web chat with sales. I've even been able to combine Logos and Vyrso orders this way too with a coupon. You're right though that store credit can't be used online with Vyrso. Thanks for all your money saving emails.
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Paul Caneparo said:
You can do this. I do it by having a web chat with sales. I've even been able to combine Logos and Vyrso orders this way too with a coupon. You're right though that store credit can't be used online with Vyrso. Thanks for all your money saving emails.
I know this is possible. I'd really prefer to be able to do that at checkout though.
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In both FL's site + Vyrso, I am forever changing show to 60. It should always be 60. Or 100, etc.
I will know when something I am searching for has generated sufficient hits, so show 3 score or more.
Multiple times a day I change the show to 60 + am vastly tired of doing so.
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PetahChristian said:
Will FL add cross-site search results? It's not really practical to expect customers to repeat a search on two or three sites. I will search Logos for a book, but often forget to search Vyrso (and have never searched ...
I would second this and the request to have visit titles in the store front for the faithlife app. I am encouraging my whole church to use the app. We also have a group going through the love Dare. They cannot get the book in the store from the app. Having to go to another website means lost sales when they can just get the book in their Kindle or Google app.
Mike Measley
Using Logos Desktop Software, Proclaim, Faithlife Groups, Faithlife Apps (Android), app.logos.com
Windows 10, Android 7, Chromebook (app.logos.com/Chrome Desktop Remote)
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pk47 said:
Now if only Faithlife Ebooks can get Harper One titles to become available for purchase.
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scooter said:
Multiple times a day I change the show to 60 + am vastly tired of doing so.
I can feel your pain! [:s]
In the meantime... Simply create a bookmark with the preferences you want. For example: https://vyrso.com/products/search?q=price%3A%5B0+TO+7.99%5D+-title%3Asampler&unlocked=no&start=&sort=pricelo&pageSize=60
That link will show you 60 results, only books you don't own, none with the word "sampler" in the title, sorted by price (low to high).
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PetahChristian said:
Will FL add cross-site search results? It's not really practical to expect customers to repeat a search on two or three sites.
I got you a sale today in the forums from a member trying to convert a Kindle resource via PBB... the user didn't know it was on Vyrso.
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+ bama: Thank you.
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One of the interesting questions if searches are consolidated is what would become of sorting categories in the store: those of vyrso and those of logos differ quite a bit and it would impractical to simply consolidate the two lists of categories (the list would be too long).
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Here's a workaround I developed (for Mac Users) to search multiple Faithlife sites simultaneously: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/158746.aspx
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I got this off the forums a while ago but for PC I make a bookmark and paste this in the URL spot
javascript:void(q=prompt('Logos/Noet/EbooksNoet/Vyrso%20Multi-Search:',getSelection()));if(q)%20%7B%20location.href='https://logos.com/products/search?q=' + escape(q) + '&unlocked=no'; window.open('https://ebooks.noet.com/search?query=' + escape(q) + '&unlocked=no'); window.open('https://noet.com/search?query=' + escape(q) + '&unlocked=no'); window.open('https://vyrso.com/products/search?q=' + escape(q) + '&unlocked=no'); }
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Mark Smith said:
I would, also. I think a search on the Logos web site should give the option to search Vyrso (E-books).
One of the best ideas I've heard in a long time. AND it would likely generate extra sales for FL. Just think about how many people probably give up after a Logos.com search, without knowing their desired product could be/is available on Vyrso.
Myke Harbuck
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scooter said:
In both FL's site + Vyrso, I am forever changing show to 60. It should always be 60. Or 100, etc.
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For my part, I would appreciate an easy way to screen all fiction out of my searches on Vyrso.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:
For my part, I would appreciate an easy way to screen all fiction out of my searches on Vyrso.
That would be good. However, for such filter to work properly, the individual resources need to be tagged as fiction accordingly.
But maybe this has been messed up by the publishers... There are only a few, but notable, cases of mis-labelling.
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Are you sure that book is mis-labelled?
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Natalie Mills said:
Thanks for the encouragement! We're excited to be bringing more life into the Vyrso universe. As of now, Noet Ebooks won't be getting any modifications. For the Vyrso API, I'll have to look into that with someone from our production team and get back to you. Thanks!Jan Krohn said:This sounds really awesome. I'm excited! Vyrso... er Faithlife Ebooks is headed for growth!
If there's going to be a major update to the Vyrso API as well, I'd really appreciate to know about this a couple of days ahead of time, so that I can adapt my autodiscovery scripts for eBook freebies and ebook deals. There are a couple of hundred recipients to whom the scripts send out messages, and who don't want to miss any free books :-)
Is Noet Ebooks going to be revamped as well?
As a subscriber to Jan's unofficial site, I concur that his site is a great way to drive traffic to the Faithlife eBooks store!!
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Jan Krohn said:
If there's going to be a major update to the Vyrso API as well, I'd really appreciate to know about this a couple of days ahead of time, so that I can adapt my autodiscovery scripts for eBook freebies and ebook deals. There are a couple of hundred recipients to whom the scripts send out messages, and who don't want to miss any free books :-)
Hi Jan,
Just so you know, I haven't forgotten about this request. I'm still looking for a good answer for you on this, and I'll let you know as soon as I've heard something from our developers. Thanks for your patience!
Natalie
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Thanks so much Natalie. So is the launch happening on 1 February (tomorrow) then?
Don't worry if you can't find anything out. For a day or two I could check for deals and free books manually, while I update the scripts.
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Mark Smith said:scooter said:
This is precisely how I do it, but would appreciate 1 search to cover all portals.
I would, also. I think a search on the Logos web site should give the option to search Vyrso (E-books). (I don't think that should be available on the Vyrso site since that might be confusing.)
I totally agree with this. Looking forward to being able to do one search only across all the sites.
Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God
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I don't see any changes yet. Is there going to be a new website address?
[Y]to being able to search across all sites at once.
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Tom Reynolds said:
Is there going to be a new website address?
Found by try-and-error: www.faithlifeebooks.com
Nothing's there yet though.
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Hi!
The new site goes live later today. You'll find it at ebooks.faithlife.com. We'll be continuing to add features to it over the next few months, and I've made sure to add the suggestions from this thread to the list of potential additions.
Jan, if you can manually add deals as you figure out your scripts, that would be great. Sorry I wasn’t able to get an answer to you on those before the launch!
Enjoy the new site!
Natalie
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Natalie Mills said:
Hi!
The new site goes live later today. You'll find it at ebooks.faithlife.com. We'll be continuing to add features to it over the next few months, and I've made sure to add the suggestions from this thread to the list of potential additions.
Jan, if you can manually add deals as you figure out your scripts, that would be great. Sorry I wasn’t able to get an answer to you on those before the launch!
Enjoy the new site!
Natalie
Will Vyrso auto-direct to the new site or will both be operational until you finalize the ebooks one?
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It's live and they have a free book of the month promotion from Kirkdale: https://ebooks.faithlife.com/products/122911/undefended-discovering-god-when-your-guard-is-down
The &unlocked=no string doesn't seem to be working (yet) though when you search books.
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Tom Reynolds said:
The &unlocked=no string doesn't seem to be working (yet) though when you search books.
Also sorting by Price (lowest first) has $ 0.00 and $ 0.99 intermixed.
Likewise cannot filter out Fiction, which could be done on Vyrso using:
-GenreGroup:*Fiction
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Natalie Mills said:
Enjoy the new site!
Great job on the new site. Congrats to you and your team. [<:o)]
Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God
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Mattillo said:
Will Vyrso auto-direct to the new site or will both be operational until you finalize the ebooks one?
It looks like auto-direct is already in place.
Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God
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I really like the look and feel on the new site. Great job!
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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