Ignatius Catholic Study Bible Missing Old Testament Volumes
Judges and Ruth: Ignatius Catholic Study Bible-published September 1, 2015.
1&2 Kings: Ignatius Catholic Study Bible - published October 10, 2017
Scott Hahn & Curtis Mitch do great work together. Seeing as the rest of the Ignatius Bible chapters are here I'd like to add this to my collection. I really hope that this duo finishes out the Old Testament someday!
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There are a few others as well. Likewise, I would very much enjoy seeing these (and any future volumes in the series) made available on Verbum.
Joshua (May 7, 2017)
1 & 2 Samuel (Sept 26, 2016)
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The publisher can sometimes be an issue too... Fortress Press seems to have a very good relationship with FL and has started offering books in Logos almost as soon as they are released physically. If this publisher and FL worked together they may see release quickly but often times years will pass before FL and a publisher make a deal to get a book out. I would like these volumes for the ICSB too but no idea when we will see them or what the reason for a delay might be.
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It looks like Verbum needs an Ignatius Study Bible Upgrade Part 2 set to include:
1 & 2 Samuel
1 & 2 Kings
Judges & Ruth
Joshua
(Non Verbum rant: The pricing from Ignatius kills me on these. They want exactly the same price whether you get a physical book or an e-book. I don't expect folks to give away this sort of material digitally, but seriously - the exact same price for physical or ebook? Avoiding the cost of paper, and printing takes NOTHING away from the cost? This is the same flawed notion as the Wall Street Journal wanting the same price for the digitally delivered content or the physically delivered content. What about some combination at a slightly higher cost (NOT DOUBLE) that would give me a physical book but allow me to get the ebook as well for reading at Adoration or other times when I can't have my physical library dragged behind me down the street?)
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Patrick Fleischmann said:
They want exactly the same price whether you get a physical book or an e-book. I don't expect folks to give away this sort of material digitally, but seriously - the exact same price for physical or ebook?
Or setting a price very near the price of the physical book seems to be where the industry is headed.
However one smaller text book house is trying a one price and get access to all of its text books for the semester.
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The movie studios sort of have this concept correct in my opinion. You can buy a movie on BluRay - although it will contain the DVD for those who haven't yet made the switch to BluRay. And there will be a digital download code so you can pull the movie into your iTunes library or other digital tablet/phone/computer media repository operating system of choice. This is truly the "pay for content" and "consume" it in whichever way is convenient for you. You own the right to a copy of that movie - regardless of the medium of transmission.
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The next installment is coming out in print this May: ICSB: Tobit, Judith, and Esther.
It would be great to have these other published OT volumes in Verbum:
- Joshua
- Judges and Ruth
- 1 & 2 Samuel.
- 1 & 2 Kings.
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Can I hear an Amen?
This set is such a no-brainer for FL to pull into Verbum as soon as possible. Such a chunk of it is already there. The Church's Bible set is another like this where the commentary for certain books of the Bible is yet to be written but then even when it is and with an existing portion of it already available in Verbum, it still seems to take forever for FL to get their offering current with what is out there in print. It makes it tough to want to invest in these types of sets with FL.
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Patrick Fleischmann said:
It makes it tough to want to invest in these types of sets with FL.
Is the point to own a set, or to buy books that one will use?
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:
Is the point to own a set, or to buy books that one will use?
While I certainly agree that the latter is the case, given the manner in which the ICSB has been structured, I see definite benefits to owning the complete set as it is available. To my mind, owning the full set (when available) maximizes the value of the resources I already own.
For instance, consider the Word Study on "Accursed" (anathema) at Gal 1:8. In seeking to better understand Galatians, the study bible directs me to a further word study for "Devoted" which is contained in the Joshua volume (not yet available in Verbum).
Another example is found in the note on Eph 1:18, which directs one to the word study for "Heart" in the Deuteronomy volume.
A final instance that comes to mind is in the ICSB:Genesis volume, which not only directs one to a note in the Exodus commentary, but also to a topical essay contained in the Leviticus volume.
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I could not possibly have responded better. A set like this is meant to be comprehensive and self-referential. As such, trying to use it with pieces missing is a very frustrating experience. Particularly when the lag from physical publishing to electronic publishing is so long.0
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Getting this series current in Verbum is on my list of things to license this year. I've got a growing list of things to get from Ignatius.
I'm also working on reducing the lag between the print v. Verbum publication. The Catholic Commentary on Sacred Scripture is a recent success story. The recent Luke volume make it into Verbum ~6 weeks following the print publication. JFYI, this series is going to complete in print this year and we'll aim to get the two outstanding volumes into Verbum as quickly as possible.
Stay tuned....
Craig St. Clair | Verbum Product Manager |
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I'm also working on reducing the lag between the print v. Verbum publication. The Catholic Commentary on Sacred Scripture is a recent success story. The recent Luke volume make it into Verbum ~6 weeks following the print publication.
We noticed … and appreciate the work from you and the team. [:)]
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The Catholic Commentary on Sacred Scripture ... JFYI, this series is going to complete in print this year and we'll aim to get the two outstanding volumes into Verbum as quickly as possible.
Very much looking forward to Nathan Eubank's volume for CCSS on 1-2 Thessalonians later this year. Glad to know it will be available in Verbum in good time!
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The list of volumes not yet in Verbum continues to grow. It would be great to see these soon.
- Wisdom & Sirach (July 15, 2020)
- 1 & 2 Samuel
- 1 & 2 Kings
- Judges & Ruth
- Joshua
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Kevin Clemens said:SineNomine said:
Is the point to own a set, or to buy books that one will use?
While I certainly agree that the latter is the case, given the manner in which the ICSB has been structured, I see definite benefits to owning the complete set as it is available.
Taking into account its structure, as noted in your examples, makes this the only commentary set I can think of for which investing in the whole series, even one by one, makes sense even if you don't intend to study all of the books it covers.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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