Exalting Jesus Series
FYI -- Just noticed that all the Exalting Jesus titles are missing from Faithlife Ebooks (old Vyrso). What gives???
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May mean they are being moved into a Logos format.
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Which should mean that if you owned them in Vryso format, you will get them free in Logos format.
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I spotted too, as I have 2 volumes bookmarked. I've contacted someone internally for the inside track on what's happening. Will update when I get a response.
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Thanks, Paul, for checking that out for us 👍😁👌
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DAL said:
Thanks, Paul, for checking that out for us 👍😁👌
DAL
Just had the response. It seems we shouldn't hold our breath. It's unlikely to return to "Vyrso" and it doesn't seem there's a plan to transfer to Logos. It seems people don't like the lack of Logos functionality in a "Vyrso" commentary. Personally I didn't have a problem with that in these books as they're fairly basic expositions but very helpful nonetheless. Looks like we may need to go elsewhere to complete. Thankfully I had all bar two that had been published. Just a shame to have to have forthcoming volumes in other software.
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I bet it makes it to Logos
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Keith Pang said:
I bet it makes it to Logos
Keith
From the email I received, I wouldn't be sure it will. However, we can but hope. My only fear if it were in Logos though is that it might be too expensive for the type of resource. I can get in another software program for $7 a volume.
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If I am not mistaken they may show up in the WordSearch program since it is owned by B&H (Lifeway) and Exalting Jesus is a B&H product. Thanks for the research.
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Just check WordSearch has all 24 volumes on sale for $149.
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Brooks Cochran said:
If I am not mistaken they may show up in the WordSearch program since it is owned by B&H (Lifeway) and Exalting Jesus is a B&H product. Thanks for the research.
Brooks
It was Wordsearch I was referring to at $7. Olive Tree offer too, but only seem to sell individual volumes at $15 - even when on offer elsewhere. Kindle obviously offer too.
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Paul Caneparo said:
Keith
From the email I received, I wouldn't be sure it will. However, we can but hope. My only fear if it were in Logos though is that it might be too expensive for the type of resource. I can get in another software program for $7 a volume.
Yeah I hope so too. I know It’ll be hard for some of us to get it elsewhere since we may have bought most of the volumes here
Keith Pang, PhD Check out my blog @ https://keithkpang.wixsite.com/magnifyingjesus
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It's sad that this has happened. Although these books are fairly basic as commentaries and I wouldn't rely on them for any serious work, they are an easy read and possess a wider usefulness.
I had been slowly collecting them each time they appeared on sale and managed to collect about 16. Still, I'm glad for what I have! [:)] Keep well Paul
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There is a chance it could make to Logos still
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Accordance and WORDsearch already have them. There isn’t that much tagging to do, so cheap vyrso edition will do. No need for Logos tagging; it will make it too expensive!
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Logging another "Really hoping this series makes it into Logos (or comes back in simpler eBook form)" from yet another Paul
Sentiment is the same for the rest of the B&H NAC Studies in Bible & Theology!
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Count me in also: I would like to see the Exalting Jesus series come back in eBook form, or in Logos form.
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DAL said:
Accordance and WORDsearch already have them. There isn’t that much tagging to do, so cheap vyrso edition will do. No need for Logos tagging; it will make it too expensive!
DAL
I agree with you that a series like Exalting Jesus/Christ Centered Exposition does not require all the tagging and a cheap eBook within the Faithlife software is absolutely fine - so I'm actually happy to have it in "Vyrso" and not pay for the tagging. Faithlife understandably believe "Vyrso" is not the right format for commentaries, but I'm not sure I see Exalting Jesus as a commentary as such. However, I do value it for sermon prep, so will buy in Kindle, Olive Tree or Wordsearch if necessary - but would prefer a cheap Faithlife solution.
They did suggest it is possible the series could come back, so if we feel passionate about this series I guess we need to be vocal.
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I would like to see the Exalting Jesus series return to Faithlife Ebooks.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Paul Caneparo said:
They did suggest it is possible the series could come back, so if we feel passionate about this series I guess we need to be vocal.
This is all very good feedback, thank you. I'll bring this back to the team and review our decision. No promises! [:)] but it's very helpful to know that you find value in these resources.
Senior Director, Content Products
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Thank you...because when B&H allows you to reduce the price I plan to buy what I am missing.
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I'd like to see them come back as well.
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Bring them back please! What is the point of getting rid of it?
Keith Pang, PhD Check out my blog @ https://keithkpang.wixsite.com/magnifyingjesus
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Keith Pang said:
Bring them back please! What is the point of getting rid of it?
Keith, we've had lots of complaints in the past when commentaries have accidentally slipped through to Vyrso where don't have the functionality necessary to make them (1) show up in the commentaries guide section, (2) be navigable by Bible reference, (3) be able to join a link set with a Bible, etc. It's a very subpar experience. But if you all would like to have access to the content, knowing those drawbacks, it seems like we could revisit this and instead just put a callout on the page that lets people know these resources won't function like commentaries. Ben and I will discuss it again.
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Phil
I would appreciate that decision. If the only way I can get a resource in logos is thru the ebook route I would rather have that than nothing. Anyone familiar with your ebook platform should already understand these shortcomings in my view
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Phil: I am perfectly happy with the restrictions!!!!!
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Phil,
I of course would like to have these in a full functional Logos format, but if that is not going to happen, I would definitely buy them in Vyrso format with its limitations.
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Mattillo said:
. If the only way I can get a resource in logos is thru the ebook route I would rather have that than nothing.
I fully concur
Mattillo said:Anyone familiar with your ebook platform should already understand these shortcomings in my view
Yes, but a box warning about that would help communicate it to people less familiar with the platform, and release Faithlife from the argument they would implicitly overpromise the functionality.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:Keith Pang said:
Bring them back please! What is the point of getting rid of it?
Keith, we've had lots of complaints in the past when commentaries have accidentally slipped through to Vyrso where don't have the functionality necessary to make them (1) show up in the commentaries guide section, (2) be navigable by Bible reference, (3) be able to join a link set with a Bible, etc. It's a very subpar experience. But if you all would like to have access to the content, knowing those drawbacks, it seems like we could revisit this and instead just put a callout on the page that lets people know these resources won't function like commentaries. Ben and I will discuss it again.
Phil
That will be great. They're not true commentaries so the so-called subpar experience is absolutely fine. I'd rather give me money to Faithlife! Sure you would too!
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
It's a very subpar experience. But if you all would like to have access to the content, knowing those drawbacks, it seems like we could revisit this and instead just put a callout on the page that lets people know these resources won't function like commentaries.
I will take sub par any day, if the only other option is Amazon [:D] Please bring them back!
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Keith, we've had lots of complaints in the past when commentaries have accidentally slipped through to Vyrso where don't have the functionality necessary to make them (1) show up in the commentaries guide section, (2) be navigable by Bible reference, (3) be able to join a link set with a Bible, etc. It's a very subpar experience. But if you all would like to have access to the content, knowing those drawbacks, it seems like we could revisit this and instead just put a callout on the page that lets people know these resources won't function like commentaries. Ben and I will discuss it again.
Phil, thank you for the explanation. It makes sense when you put it like that. I would still agree with everyone else and say it would be worth having them in Logos format preferably but the e-book format is good enough. I just don't want to have to buy it elsewhere when I have invested in 15 volumes of the series already. Thank you for considering.
Keith Pang, PhD Check out my blog @ https://keithkpang.wixsite.com/magnifyingjesus
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