Try Reading Lists from the Tools menu...
This is a new feature that is designed to help answer the "How do I use my library to learn about..." question. It's also an aid to approaching the library with a topic in mind, and can be used by instructors to build class-specific reading lists using the Logos library.
This feature is not complete -- in an upcoming beta you'll be able to check things off, and it will warn you when the link is to a locked resource -- but you can start playing with it now.
Run the Reading Lists Tool and select the article on Magnificat. Then you can look at http://topics.logos.com/magnificat to see how it was made.
You can add a reading list to any topic page there, and it'll be available to everyone immediately. If you want to create a reading list on something that's not a topic, you can create a new page using "Magnificat" as an example. (I'll make an example "course reading list" soon.)
The point of reading lists is not to write a Wikipedia article, but rather to help people read up on a subject using the excellent resources already in their Logos library. Reading lists will be offered as part of search results in a future beta.
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Bob Pritchett said:
The point of reading lists is not to write a Wikipedia article, but rather to help people read up on a subject using the excellent resources already in their Logos library. Reading lists will be offered as part of search results in a future beta.
Is this something we will be able to create ourselves or is it going to be more like a dynamic Logos resource that you guys occasionally edit? It looks like a great resource to me. I like the idea of adding it to search results.
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Bob,
that sounds like a great idea! There is so much untapped territory in my library....this sounds like a winning idea.
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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Bob,
Does this mean that this feature is a Logos-created, driven feature? I can't see any way to create a Reading List. Not that I need to create one (I'm happy for you all to do that for me!) but I want to know if I am missing something.
A related question: are these reading lists supposed to be "default" type resources? Because I have Scholars OC and I don't have several of the resources (Eerdmans Dictionary, Encyclopedia of Christianity).
Not complaining, just wondering what the "standards" are.
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
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Bob Pritchett said:
Run the Reading Lists Tool and select the article on Magnificat.
I checked this out and clicked on the link to the Wilmington Book of Bible Lists. A Logos 4 splash logo appeared, the resource opened and L4 crashed.
I'm not sure where to find a log file to attach, if you want one.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Richard DeRuiter said:Bob Pritchett said:
Run the Reading Lists Tool and select the article on Magnificat.
I checked this out and clicked on the link to the Wilmington Book of Bible Lists. A Logos 4 splash logo appeared, the resource opened and L4 crashed.
I'm not sure where to find a log file to attach, if you want one.
the splash screen came up for me too, but I did not experience a crash.
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Richard
I've carried out the same exercise, but I did not get a crash . . . worked ok for me.
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Yes, you can create your own by creating a new page at http://topics.logos.com/. Though it'll be easier after I build an example of that.
The link to Wilmington's shouldn't have crashed; we can look into that. But the reading lists are intended for use INSIDE Logos 4, not really from the web site (though it should work).
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Bob Pritchett said:
The link to Wilmington's shouldn't have crashed; we can look into that. But the reading lists are intended for use INSIDE Logso 4, not really from the web site (though it should work).
No, I clicked from inside L4. It surprised me that it tried to launch L4 from within L4.
I tried it again, and I saw the same splash icon, but this time L4 didn't crash, and I can navigate WBBL.
Strange.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Bob,
I get the same result when clicking on an item in the Reading List. The splash screen Logos logo comes up. Here's a quick screenshot (it goes away quickly) when I clicked on the WBBL:
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)0 -
It actually is starting up 2 new processes, both which close. Clicking on other things inside the logos 4 program do not do this.
This is a neat idea though
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Fred Greco said:
Does this mean that this feature is a Logos-created, driven feature? I can't see any way to create a Reading List.
Fred, users can create reading lists at http://topics.logos.com/. I created one this weekend on the Trinity: http://topics.logos.com/Trinity. I copied the structure and code from Bob's page: http://topics.logos.com/Magnificat. It's pretty easy to do. The top half of the page will appear in search results in Logos (if the topic is in the LCV [Logos Controlled Vocabulary]), and the bottom half will appear as a reading list under the Reading Lists tool. I think this has potential to be a very helpful way to share data with each other.
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Is there a way to control/edit this? Sharing information is great, but what is to stop it from being like early Wikipedia - crowded with dubious entries? Especially if anyone can make/contribute. This is also potentially an issue with various theological traditions.
Not saying that this is not a useful feature - just trying to make it better,
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)0 -
Fred Greco said:
Is there a way to control/edit this?
Fred, we do have to be signed in to edit the information.
The issue of conflicting theological perspectives: it'll be just like some discussions on the old newsgroup and in the new forums
Seriously, it could be a challenge.
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Damian McGrath said:Fred Greco said:
Is there a way to control/edit this?
Fred, we do have to be signed in to edit the information.
Understood, but that does not stop someone from "messing up the list." You might be able to know who did it, but taht does not exactly help.
Damian McGrath said:The issue of conflicting theological perspectives: it'll be just like some discussions on the old newsgroup and in the new forums
Seriously, it could be a challenge.
I think this could be more than a challenge. It's one of the reasons that the newsgroups pretty studiously avoided any theological interchange. [:S]
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)0 -
Intereting feature Bob. It could be a good tool for anyone looking to learn about a topic and does not know where to start. I can see it having a LOT of value for young readers! AND a way the power user can help educate and train the younger generation.
2 thoughts.
First, if I don't have a resource in my Library, Logos opens up a blank tab that syas, "no resource". Why not open up an Info pane with some book details and a "buy it now" option. I am sure that invovles some coding, but it also seems like a good tool for upselling product.
Second, say I to create a reading of books I want go through. Can someone edit my reading list and remove or add books?
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I agree Joe,
In the past Logos has gotten money from me in this way more than once... [:D]
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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I really like this. This would be great for professors or pastors who have students or church members with Logos. If you can create one.
Suggestions...
1. An indication if you don't have the book in your library so you don't waste time opening it
2. The lists that come shipped with the release versions should have the books in that library
3. An option to buy all the books in this list at a discount (maybe 10 percent off if you get them all)
4. Ability to create a list.
This is pretty cool!!
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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So maybe like a
Purcell Gold Collection
or
Purcell Silver Collection :-)
All kidding aside, we could name it whatever we want and give this list to a class and they could just with one click get all the books required and download?
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Bob Pritchett said:
This is a new feature that is designed to help answer the "How do I use my library to learn about..." question. It's also an aid to approaching the library with a topic in mind, and can be used by instructors to build class-specific reading lists using the Logos library.
This feature is not complete -- in an upcoming beta you'll be able to check things off, and it will warn you when the link is to a locked resource -- but you can start playing with it now.
Run the Reading Lists Tool and select the article on Magnificat. Then you can look at http://topics.logos.com/magnificat to see how it was made.
You can add a reading list to any topic page there, and it'll be available to everyone immediately. If you want to create a reading list on something that's not a topic, you can create a new page using "Magnificat" as an example. (I'll make an example "course reading list" soon.)
The point of reading lists is not to write a Wikipedia article, but rather to help people read up on a subject using the excellent resources already in their Logos library. Reading lists will be offered as part of search results in a future beta.
What has been done so far with this is good. Some good questions have been raised about the security and control of these lists that need to and I am sure will be answered in time. If they are going to be use in the classroom situation (which is a good application) then they would very much need control over editing of them - open slather community collaboration would not work in those instances and also in terms of respecting people's denominational differences this is important.
At the same time I wouldn't want to see 30 reading lists on the magnificant so in time as things develops maybe a way ot subscribing to specific lists, and this would of course woud mean a need to be able to browse all lists to determine what to subscribe to, and what are the newly added lists since I last browsed.
This maybe getting a bit ahead of where we are with them at the moment but just some inital thoughts in addition to some excellent ones already mentioned by others.
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I just revisited the reading lists and continue to see great potential. I am not as worried about open collaboration, though. One of the reasons I would use the reading list is to get examples from those who may have a different denominational perspective and point me to resourses I may otherwise overlook. Maybe what we are seeing is not the final feel of it and I know a lot of the usefulness will come through passage and topic searches but I would like to recommend several things, some of which has already been mentioned.
1. On the resource menu add a "create Topic" link that would take us to the website.
2. Somehow categorize the topics.
3. I agree with a previous post, some kind of indication over the entry whether or not we have the resource in our library would be helpful.
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