EEC Update
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Jake Mailhot said:
As for a comprehensive update, I'm working on collecting those details--many of them have been difficult to track down. I should have more to share later this week or early next week. Thanks.
Any updates yet Mr Jake?
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From Brannon Ellis, Publisher of Lexham Press:
Friends of the EEC,
On behalf of Lexham Press and Faithlife, I’d like to thank all of you for your continued patronage of the Evangelical Exegetical Commentary series. When we set out to publish the EEC, as some of you will remember, Lexham didn’t yet exist as a publishing house, and our company was still named Logos Research Systems. Acquiring rights to the EEC was one of the earliest projects we took on, and has continued to be one of the biggest. Several years into this undertaking, I know a number of you are unsatisfied with what feels like the very slow pace of progress. I’ll be the first to say that none of us realized at the time just how aspirational it was for us to commit to a comprehensive technical commentary series covering the entire canon!
Nevertheless, we remain just as enthusiastic about and committed to the EEC. In fact, as we’ve matured into the Lexham Press we are today, I believe we’re in a better position than we’ve ever been to pursue the vision of the EEC with excellence. Our published volumes, and the praise they’ve received from academics and pastors alike, speak for themselves. That doesn’t mean we won’t continue to have inevitable hiccups and unforeseen snags along the way; every major commentary series covering all of Scripture has had a similarly winding journey. But it does mean that we’ll continue to do our best to keep the fundamental promises we’ve made to you as EEC readers: to deliver thoroughly scholarly commentaries that don’t compromise on evangelical convictions, so that you can confidently use these volumes week in and week out in your sermon and teaching preparation and personal research and writing.
As part of that commitment, we’re going to make a couple key changes to the way we communicate with you about developments with the series such as newly signed authors and upcoming publication news. First, we’re going to communicate with you more fully and more often. Otherwise, it can start to feel like nothing’s happening with the EEC when quite a lot is going on behind the scenes. Second, we’re going to stop providing tentative publication dates for upcoming volumes. There are simply too many variables beyond our control that can cause delays before a full draft manuscript comes in the door. For example, authors often experience writing delays and ask for submission extensions; since we’ve carefully chosen our authors (and commissioning a new volume would take even longer), we often have no choice but to grant the delay, offer all the editorial support we can, and trust that the author needing the extension is invested in delivering high-quality work. Instead, we’ll provide you with details on exactly where a particular volume is in the publishing process—whether the author is currently writing the manuscript, whether we’re currently editing it, and so on. That’ll be much more accurate and informative than merely estimating possible ship dates. Rest assured, we’ll continue to work as quickly as possible to release new volumes as we receive them from authors.
Blessings,
Brannon Ellis, PhD
Publisher, Lexham Press----------------------------
From Derek Brown, in-house Academic Editor over EEC:
Dear EEC Friends,
Many thanks for your readership and enthusiasm for the EEC series over the years. The editorial team at Lexham Press and the authors of the EEC series greatly appreciate you.
As part of our desire to share more about the progress of forthcoming EEC volumes, I want to give you a behind the scenes update for a few volumes. But first it may be helpful to give you a brief overview of the major stages of production that each of the EEC volumes goes through before it is shipped off to you. The four major stages of production:
1. In Writing: the author is researching and writing the commentary.
2. General Editing: an initial draft of the manuscript has been completed and sent to the general editors of the EEC. During this stage the general editors work closely with the authors to provide substantive feedback to help improve the commentary.
3. Manuscript Editing: after the general editors are satisfied with revisions from the author, the manuscript is handed off to the Lexham Press editorial team. They will clean up the manuscript and prepare it for publication.
4. Printing: once editorial for a manuscript is complete, we send it off to be built as a Logos edition and/or to the printer for print publication.With this broad overview of our production workflow in mind, I’d like to tell you about a few volumes that we are very excited about. Right now our general editors are working hard on two Old Testament manuscripts: Joshua by Ralph Hawkins and Daniel by Paul Tanner. Both of these authors have labored diligently to complete their commentaries and our the EEC editorial team is excited for their work to be in your hands soon! A little closer to publication, JoAnna Hoyt’s commentary on Amos, Jonah, and Micah is just about to be sent off to the technological wizards who will turn the manuscript into a digitally-rich Logos resource for you all. JoAnna’s commentary is full of top-notch scholarship as well as rich theological insight, and I’m sure you’ll enjoy reading it as much as I have.
I hope this update gives you greater insight and enthusiasm for the forthcoming EEC volumes. I look forward to providing another update soon.
Blessings,
Derek Brown, PhD
Academic Editor, Lexham Press----------------------------
I will be updating the EEC product page with the new status updates shortly. Derek is also working on a more detailed update that includes update on new authors for a few volumes.
Please let me know if there are any other questions.
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Thank you for the updates Jake! Will the Logos EEC page be the place to go for updates or is it better to go to the Lexham Press EEC page?
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Justin Marr said:
Unfortunately, EEC Jeremiah will not be released this year like we hoped. Walt Kaiser has written a fantastic commentary—very approachable and pastoral—but during our academic review we have determined that the manuscript needed further technical discussion and text-critical engagement than was ready in time for the deadline. We believe this delay, while not ideal, will ultimately serve EEC readers better, as it will further strengthen Kaiser’s excellent contribution.
On another note... any updates on the Jeremiah volume? It wasn't listed in the update provided by the EEC staff so I'm curious if it was close where it might be now.
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Jake Mailhot said:
First, we’re going to communicate with you more fully and more often. Otherwise, it can start to feel like nothing’s happening with the EEC when quite a lot is going on behind the scenes.
- Where are you going to do this? Will it continue to be simply here in the forums when complaints are aired?
- I recognize the need for you to stop projecting dates that are off by several years, but that just adds to the feeling that there is no real plan to bring this to completion.
- There are a number of volumes who do not yet have an author identified. After this many years are you still unable to locate an evangelical scholar who would be able write those volumes, and is that an active search?
Thank you
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Thank you Jake. Will all updates be posted here or on the logos product page?
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Nord Zootman said:
- Where are you going to do this? Will it continue to be simply here in the forums when complaints are aired?
We'll use a combination of these forums, the Lexham or Logos blog, and email to communicate these updates. We want to be more proactive in our communication about the EEC. Our current plan is to provide a regular quarterly update about the series, even if its a small update without any major news.
Nord Zootman said:- I recognize the need for you to stop projecting dates that are off by several years, but that just adds to the feeling that there is no real plan to bring this to completion.
As both Brannon and Derek laid out, its so hard for us to project release dates for a project of this scale. We'll hold off on assigning a release date to any volume until we receive it from the author and General Editors. At that point it's placed on our production schedule and treated like any other Lexham Press book project, usually with a six-to-nine month lead time.
Nord Zootman said:- There are a number of volumes who do not yet have an author identified. After this many years are you still unable to locate an evangelical scholar who would be able write those volumes, and is that an active search?
We are definitely active in our search for authors; and not just any authors, but committed evangelicals who are also well respected scholars in their respective fields. It is hard work to find the right author, but in the end we are confident that finding the right author will yield the best volume for the EEC.
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Jake Mailhot said:
Please let me know if there are any other questions.
Have you ever considered an EEC volume or two on the Apocrypha/Deuterocanon? That would certainly make it stand out among Evangelical Bible commentaries.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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I would definitely get it!
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Ronald Quick said:
I bought the set upon its initial release and even though the release dates have changed, I've not regretted my purchase.
This is my feeling precisely.
I'm glad to see that we might expect more information in the future. But it would be really excellent if they would hurry up on the book I'll be preaching next. ;-)
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TCBlack said:
I'm glad to see that we might expect more information in the future. But it would be really excellent if they would hurry up on the book I'll be preaching next. ;-)
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TCBlack said:
But it would be really excellent if they would hurry up on the book I'll be preaching next. ;-)
Assuming that it is the same one I will be teaching next [:P]
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I tossed the EEC into my cart and even though the page said 44 volumes it is listed in the cart as 43 volumes why the discrepancy?
-dan
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Dan Francis said:I tossed the EEC into my cart and even though the page said 44 volumes it is listed in the cart as 43 volumes why the discrepancy?
-dan
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Dan Francis said:
I tossed the EEC into my cart and even though the page said 44 volumes it is listed in the cart as 43 volumes why the discrepancy?
Dan,
This is an artifact from when the James volume was removed from publication. When a replacement volume is produced, it will be automatically unlocked for any user who had purchased the 44-volume set or who had previously purchased the old volume.
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Jake Mailhot said:
When a replacement volume is produced, it will be automatically unlocked for any user who had purchased the 44-volume set or who had previously purchased the old volume.
So, we get to keep Varner and receive the new volume FREE? Super abundant thank-you's [<:o)] [Y] [:D]
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Jake Mailhot said:
Both pages will be updated.
No updates as far as I know. Derek may have more in his more detailed update he's working on.
Jake sir... any updates on when the webpage might be updated or from Derek as to the Jeremiah and other volumes?
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Amos, Jonah, Micah has been postponed again to April.
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Where did you see that? Webpage?
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Yep.
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Jake Mailhot said:
We'll use a combination of these forums, the Lexham or Logos blog, and email to communicate these updates. We want to be more proactive in our communication about the EEC. Our current plan is to provide a regular quarterly update about the series, even if its a small update without any major news.
Jake, Is there a decent chance the eight volumes scheduled for a 2018 release will come "close" to a 2018 arrival? If so, picking up the whole set does entice, at least for me.
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Any updates?
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Some EEC News: We have confirmed release date for Amos, Jonah, & Micah: May 18. We'll also have an interview with the author, JoAnna Hoyt, that will be posted to the Logos Talk blog soon.
Thanks for your patience.
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Thank you Jake! Any updates on Jeremiah, Daniel or from Brannon?
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Thanks Jake
Jake Mailhot said:Some EEC News: We have confirmed release date for Amos, Jonah, & Micah: May 18. We'll also have an interview with the author, JoAnna Hoyt, that will be posted to the Logos Talk blog soon.
Thanks for your patience.
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Jake Mailhot said:
Some EEC News: We have confirmed release date for Amos, Jonah, & Micah: May 18. We'll also have an interview with the author, JoAnna Hoyt, that will be posted to the Logos Talk blog soon.
Thanks for your patience.
Good news! Thanks.
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Jake Mailhot said:
From Brannon Ellis, Publisher of Lexham Press:
Friends of the EEC,
On behalf of Lexham Press and Faithlife, I’d like to thank all of you for your continued patronage of the Evangelical Exegetical Commentary series. When we set out to publish the EEC, as some of you will remember, Lexham didn’t yet exist as a publishing house, and our company was still named Logos Research Systems. Acquiring rights to the EEC was one of the earliest projects we took on, and has continued to be one of the biggest. Several years into this undertaking, I know a number of you are unsatisfied with what feels like the very slow pace of progress. I’ll be the first to say that none of us realized at the time just how aspirational it was for us to commit to a comprehensive technical commentary series covering the entire canon!
Nevertheless, we remain just as enthusiastic about and committed to the EEC. In fact, as we’ve matured into the Lexham Press we are today, I believe we’re in a better position than we’ve ever been to pursue the vision of the EEC with excellence. Our published volumes, and the praise they’ve received from academics and pastors alike, speak for themselves. That doesn’t mean we won’t continue to have inevitable hiccups and unforeseen snags along the way; every major commentary series covering all of Scripture has had a similarly winding journey. But it does mean that we’ll continue to do our best to keep the fundamental promises we’ve made to you as EEC readers: to deliver thoroughly scholarly commentaries that don’t compromise on evangelical convictions, so that you can confidently use these volumes week in and week out in your sermon and teaching preparation and personal research and writing.
As part of that commitment, we’re going to make a couple key changes to the way we communicate with you about developments with the series such as newly signed authors and upcoming publication news. First, we’re going to communicate with you more fully and more often. Otherwise, it can start to feel like nothing’s happening with the EEC when quite a lot is going on behind the scenes. Second, we’re going to stop providing tentative publication dates for upcoming volumes. There are simply too many variables beyond our control that can cause delays before a full draft manuscript comes in the door. For example, authors often experience writing delays and ask for submission extensions; since we’ve carefully chosen our authors (and commissioning a new volume would take even longer), we often have no choice but to grant the delay, offer all the editorial support we can, and trust that the author needing the extension is invested in delivering high-quality work. Instead, we’ll provide you with details on exactly where a particular volume is in the publishing process—whether the author is currently writing the manuscript, whether we’re currently editing it, and so on. That’ll be much more accurate and informative than merely estimating possible ship dates. Rest assured, we’ll continue to work as quickly as possible to release new volumes as we receive them from authors.
Blessings,
Brannon Ellis, PhD
Publisher, Lexham Press----------------------------
From Derek Brown, in-house Academic Editor over EEC:
Dear EEC Friends,
Many thanks for your readership and enthusiasm for the EEC series over the years. The editorial team at Lexham Press and the authors of the EEC series greatly appreciate you.
As part of our desire to share more about the progress of forthcoming EEC volumes, I want to give you a behind the scenes update for a few volumes. But first it may be helpful to give you a brief overview of the major stages of production that each of the EEC volumes goes through before it is shipped off to you. The four major stages of production:
1. In Writing: the author is researching and writing the commentary.
2. General Editing: an initial draft of the manuscript has been completed and sent to the general editors of the EEC. During this stage the general editors work closely with the authors to provide substantive feedback to help improve the commentary.
3. Manuscript Editing: after the general editors are satisfied with revisions from the author, the manuscript is handed off to the Lexham Press editorial team. They will clean up the manuscript and prepare it for publication.
4. Printing: once editorial for a manuscript is complete, we send it off to be built as a Logos edition and/or to the printer for print publication.With this broad overview of our production workflow in mind, I’d like to tell you about a few volumes that we are very excited about. Right now our general editors are working hard on two Old Testament manuscripts: Joshua by Ralph Hawkins and Daniel by Paul Tanner. Both of these authors have labored diligently to complete their commentaries and our the EEC editorial team is excited for their work to be in your hands soon! A little closer to publication, JoAnna Hoyt’s commentary on Amos, Jonah, and Micah is just about to be sent off to the technological wizards who will turn the manuscript into a digitally-rich Logos resource for you all. JoAnna’s commentary is full of top-notch scholarship as well as rich theological insight, and I’m sure you’ll enjoy reading it as much as I have.
I hope this update gives you greater insight and enthusiasm for the forthcoming EEC volumes. I look forward to providing another update soon.
Blessings,
Derek Brown, PhD
Academic Editor, Lexham Press----------------------------
I will be updating the EEC product page with the new status updates shortly. Derek is also working on a more detailed update that includes update on new authors for a few volumes.
Please let me know if there are any other questions.
Just curious if we have any updates from Brannon or Derek onn updates for the entire series. Leviticus and Jeremiah were due to come out today/soon but obviously their dates have changed. Any updates would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Hi Faithlife
Can we have some updates on the publication dates on the titles that are 'theoretically' published recently. i.e. yesterday or the day before.
Regards Kevin
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Jake Mailhot said:
Thanks all for your questions about the EEC.
We're working on a comprehensive update for the series, we should be able to share it soon.
The EEC website was recently retired and now EvangelicalExegeticalCommentary.com redirects to a landing page on LexhamPress.com. This landing page will be much easier to maintain.
'Easier' clearly doesn't mean it will be maintained - as we now have two past publication dates - with no titles delivered - and no revision to the publication dates.
This applies to the Logos store page for the series and the Lexham Press page.
Come on guys!
Shalom
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Kevin A Lewis said:
'Easier' clearly doesn't mean it will be maintained
Right. Despite all the good intentions expressed by Jake and others on the team, we are still as much in the dark about the EEC as we have been in the past few years.
I have decided to just lower my expectations and not get upset about Faithlife's ongoing struggle to seriously communicate with its customers who have paid upfront for an entire commentaries series that doesn't get delivered the way it was sold. It has been said enough, but it doesn't seem to make much difference in how they communicate...
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André Kamphuis said:
I have decided to just lower my expectations and not get upset about Faithlife's ongoing struggle to seriously communicate with its customers who have paid upfront for an entire commentaries series that doesn't get delivered the way it was sold. It has been said enough, but it doesn't seem to make much difference in how they communicate.
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Here's what I just received from Derek:
- Jeremiah: In Writing
- Leviticus: In Writing
- Galatians: In Writing
- Daniel: In Review with Series Editors
- Joshua: In Review with Series Editors
- Ecclesiastes: In Writing
- 1 & 2 Chronicles: In Review with Series Editors
I'm not sure how far along the manuscripts are for those volumes still being written. For the volumes in review, the possibility of revisions could further delay them but they're closest to being published.
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Thanks Jake for the update.
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Thanks Jake
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Thank you Jake
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Jake Mailhot said:
Here's what I just received from Derek:
- Jeremiah: In Writing
- Leviticus: In Writing
- Galatians: In Writing
- Daniel: In Review with Series Editors
- Joshua: In Review with Series Editors
- Ecclesiastes: In Writing
- 1 & 2 Chronicles: In Review with Series Editors
I'm not sure how far along the manuscripts are for those volumes still being written. For the volumes in review, the possibility of revisions could further delay them but they're closest to being published.
Thanks, Jake for the update. I would way rather have a delay and a higher quality outcome. I've loved what we have gotten so far with EEC
Jacob Hantla
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Here's my beef... Every single one of these titles had a 2018 date attached to them 2-3 weeks ago. AFTER the 30 day return policy expires for people who purchased during March Madness, the dates get removed and now they are "In Writing"--which according to Derek Brown is the first stage of the four stage process. Do you understand how that looks to people? Jeremiah should've never even had a 5/1/18 ship date if it was still in the first stage of production! That was false information. Plain and simple. If 5/1/18 was ever a realistic date it should be further along in the production process than square one. There was no update about this. Please address this.
I love Lexham. I think you do good work. I understand you have a hard job. I'm not a troll or your enemy. But Lexham left concrete dates up during a HUGE sale indicating that these titles would be released soon (and in the cases of Jeremiah, Leviticus, and Amos almost immediately). So people read the comments warning about problems with shipping and ignore them because Lexham seems to have fixed all the issues. Now the dates are gone and Jeremiah which was supposed to ship 10 days ago is now back at the first stage of the process. Same with Leviticus. These were factors to people in the buying process. Customer purchases. 31 days later: ALL dates get removed and every single commentary that was slated to ship soon is now back at the first stage of the production process (less Amos is allegedly coming 5/18/18) with no communcation about it from anyone.
I'm not mad. I just want Lexham to get it together and avoid even the appearance of being dishonest. I understand things happen. But everything else on Logos has a reliable ship date. Take for example Michael Heiser's book on Angels. It ships 3Q 2018. Now while no man knows the day or the hour I have confidence that it will ship sometime between July 1st and September 30th. That's reasonable.
These are issues that I would appreciate Brannon and Derek addressing in the next update: 1) May release dates of Jeremiah and Leviticus being removed in favor of square one in the production process and 2) why were the concrete dates removed AFTER the 30 day refund period. Not saying I want my money back... I just want them to address it because it looks shady. It did not go unnoticed. "Set thine house in order."
Repsectfully,
Nathan
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Jake Mailhot said:
As part of our desire to share more about the progress of forthcoming EEC volumes, I want to give you a behind the scenes update for a few volumes. But first it may be helpful to give you a brief overview of the major stages of production that each of the EEC volumes goes through before it is shipped off to you. The four major stages of production:
1. In Writing: the author is researching and writing the commentary.
2. General Editing: an initial draft of the manuscript has been completed and sent to the general editors of the EEC. During this stage the general editors work closely with the authors to provide substantive feedback to help improve the commentary.
3. Manuscript Editing: after the general editors are satisfied with revisions from the author, the manuscript is handed off to the Lexham Press editorial team. They will clean up the manuscript and prepare it for publication.
4. Printing: once editorial for a manuscript is complete, we send it off to be built as a Logos edition and/or to the printer for print publication.Wait… now all dates have been removed, and replaced by very insightful labels that show if a volume is in writing, or in review, or has a publication date.
The bad news is this: If you are waiting for a particular volume, your chances are slim to get it anytime soon. Galatians is the only commentary for the NT writing has started on, so that one might be out in 3-4 years from now, but for the rest the overall picture is really concerning….
Out of the 37 volumes that still need to be published, only 1 has a publication date, 3 are in review, and 4 are in writing. All the others, 29 commentaries in total, are not even in writing!
(Faithlife, please tell me I misunderstood the labels and a lot of researching and writing is happening on all these 29 volumes!)
Publication date (1): Amos & Jonah & Micah
In review (3): Joshua, 1&2 Chronicles, Daniel
In writing (4): Leviticus, Ecclesiastes, Jeremiah, Galatians
Not started yet (29): Genesis, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Judges/Ruth, 1&2 Kings, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Hosea/Joel/Obadiah, Nahum/Habakkuk/Zephaniah, Haggai/Zechariah/Malachi, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Colossians, 1&2 Thessalonians, 1&2 Timothy/Titus, Hebrews, James, 1 Peter, 2 Peter, Revelation.
Knowing that writing and publishing an academic commentary can take many years… is this just the announcement of the death of the EEC as a series? (serious question!)
Faithlife sold this whole series with literally this advertisement: ““The entire 44-volume set will be available in 2019—an unprecedented publication timetable for a commentary of this magnitude.” Many people pre-paid for the entire series. Right now, 2018, no work has started on the great majority of commentaries.
Customers don’t complain about the published volumes (they’re quite good!), they understand delays in writer’s schedules. But is this not beyond acceptable?
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This is not just a Lexham Press issue. This is system-wide with Logos. I have a Lexham Bible Guide for Ruth (Logos Edition) that has been under contract since April 7, 2017. I realize that this can happen with Pre-Pubs. But the fact remains that Logos advertises to get customers onboard and then they delay production for various reasons.
Frankly, the EEC rollout has been upsetting. If I had committed to purchasing the entire set upfront without the set complete, I would have been seriously disappointed.
This happened with the Teach the Text Commentary set by Baker Publishing. But that was because the publishing company ended the series incomplete. That probably can't be helped. But Faithlife should provide complete series when possible.
I have decided to buy only what I need when I need it, and then get a great deal when it comes along. If you are needing a product, and they advertise that it will soon be available, you should not have to get your hopes up. But I have to work under the assumption that things will be delayed.
Faithlife has great products and I will keep purchasing them. But I won't commit to products that look like they have a long-term production.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jimerwin/ - a postmodern pastor in a digital world
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André,
When we updated the product page with the new publication status updates, we removed all of the estimated release dates (as we said we would). For the volumes that we don't have any concrete update for (as provided by Derek), we did not include a publication status at all. This does not mean that they are not currently being worked on. I can assure you that there are more than just four volumes currently in the writing stage. When I have more concrete details for these volumes, I will update the product page and post here on this forum thread. But I'm hesitant to assume anything until I have those details in hand from Derek.
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Jake Mailhot said:
This does not mean that they are not currently being worked on. I can assure you that there are more than just four volumes currently in the writing stage.
Glad to hear this, Jake. Looking forward to a more comprehensive update.
I recall you said in march:
Jake Mailhot said:As for a comprehensive update, I'm working on collecting those details--many of them have been difficult to track down. I should have more to share later this week or early next week. Thanks.
I assumed that the latest update to the product page was the comprehensive update. Good to hear you're still getting ready to get the accurate information out for the whole series (not just for a couple volumes). It's much needed. Removing inaccurate information without providing accurate information isn't all that helpful at this point.
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André Kamphuis said:
Faithlife sold this whole series with literally this advertisement: ““The entire 44-volume set will be available in 2019—an unprecedented publication timetable for a commentary of this magnitude.” Many people pre-paid for the entire series. Right now, 2018, no work has started on the great majority of commentaries.
IT is truly sad that by now the majority of the volumes are not out but I believe it was a naivety of the complexities of publishing and not a willful deception. We have been made aware in the last couple of years that it will move beyond that date. It is truly sad though that we don't have a more tentative date... Although I realize if they said "Going well all volumes should be released by fall 2024", come January 2025 with 10 volumes yet to be released you would have people upset again, so I can see why no new set completion date is out there, but it is a sad thing to see 2019 turn into a nebulous completion that feels we may never reach.
-dan
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Dan Francis said:
IT is truly sad that by now the majority of the volumes are not out but I believe it was a naivety of the complexities of publishing and not a willful deception.
I don't have a dog in this hunt. But if memory serves, Logos wanted folks to sign up for the whole thing, with the promise of shizam! That sounds not accidental or naive.
- Wasn't the project already iffy, when they came to Logos? And credit due, Bob could have simply shrugged.
- An academic commentary limited to a high-end software platform was warning enough.
- I'd assume, given the equation, each produced volume is 'thank your lucky stars'. The odds were never favorable.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise said:
I don't have a dog in this hunt. But if memory serves, Logos wanted folks to sign up for the whole thing, with the promise of shizam! That sounds not accidental or naive.
- Wasn't the project already iffy, when they came to Logos? And credit due, Bob could have simply shrugged.
- An academic commentary limited to a high-end software platform was warning enough.
- I'd assume, given the equation, each produced volume is 'thank your lucky stars'. The odds were never favorable.
It's not the fact the series will now be completed years after it was promised, it's the fact that through it all the lack of information about what is going on with it never arrived, and we still have a problem getting information about it.
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Matt Hamrick said:
It's not the fact the series will now be completed years after it was promised, it's the fact that through it all the lack of information about what is going on with it never arrived, and we still have a problem getting information about it.
Totally agree Matt, from the outset I never expected the timeline presented to be met. I am not upset by the delay's. Writing a commentary is big project and I'd rather extra time be taken if required than have a rushed product.
The issue is the lack of clear open communication from Faithlife...but that's something I have been saying for many years. They just don't get it because they are too busy chasing their next big idea to take the care and consideration to do communication well.
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doc said:
They just don't get it because they are too busy chasing their next big idea to take the care and consideration to do communication well.
Well said. [Y] [Y]
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