What's the difference between Logos Research and Logos Reader?
Interesting. Good catch!
The answer can be found by clicking on the "?" when viewing the book in the library.
From those descriptions, I would gather a better formatted eBook.
More details at the updated page here: https://www.logos.com/logos-editions. It's related to https://www.logos.com/same-day-releases.
Thanks Phil
But it still looks as though these depend on customer interest to move into production as per https://www.logos.com/product/192482/the-gospel-beyond-the-gospels which was produced in 2017 but still not available in Logos
Is that correct or am I missing something?
I think it would be more accurate to say that Reader editions are lower quality ebooks.
Well, ebooks have no page numbers, and can have very messy Scripture tagging, both of which are a cause of frequent frustration. I therefore welcome the arrival of the reader's editions.
Bonhoeffer's works are already available as a dedicated reader's edition, at a much better price (sadly, US and Canada only).https://www.logos.com/product/127135/dietrich-bonhoeffers-works-readers-editions
I'm looking forward to seeing more reader's editions arrive in Logos, maybe derived from the more scholarly works that have been available on FLEB.
From those descriptions, I would gather a better formatted eBook. I think it would be more accurate to say that Reader editions are lower quality ebooks.
No; this is inaccurate.
"eBooks" (as an edition in Logos) are produced by an entirely automated process.
Logos Reader editions are still produced manually, just not with as many features or tagging as a Logos Research edition.
More details at the updated page here: https://www.logos.com/logos-editions. It's related to https://www.logos.com/same-day-releases. Thanks Phil But it still looks as though these depend on customer interest to move into production as per https://www.logos.com/product/192482/the-gospel-beyond-the-gospels which was produced in 2017 but still not available in Logos Is that correct or am I missing something?
That's a great question. The wording on that page could be clearer.
While the majority of reader editions will go straight into production, there will be some reader editions that depend on customer interest to move into production. The difference is that they will require less customer interest.
I assume that if these migrate to Logos editions, the users will get the updated version?
This seems Similar to my suggestion of having a Vyrso title given to those who pre-order a book.
The way I read it (We tag Scripture references and some other basics, but forgo the robust treatment given to reference works.) They are lower quality Logos books, but better quality than Faithlife Ebooks.
This is very similar to something I hoped for a few years ago. I know I reveal a lot of ignorance there [:P] and there are differences (in purpose, in results, and in other ways), but it would be easy to make a case for a huge chunk of the types of things that have been fully tagged to be candidates for a Readers Edition.
May I ask what is tagged in the reader edition that is not tagged in the ebook edition?
What extra Marked Up are there in the reader edition that is searchable which is not searchable in the ebook edition
The best explanation for this was one that offered what is at the root of all change motivation towards a perceived goal. Ben summarized.
We decided to introduce Logos reader editions for a number of reasons, but here are the three biggest: 1. To expand our catalog beyond what we would normally offer by keeping production costs down. Reader editions allow us to include books in our catalog that would otherwise not make it into Logos. While they don’t’ have the full markup of a research editions, they are significantly better than ebooks.2. To release more books at the same day as the publisher. The announcement of Reader Editions coincides with our announcement about Same-day releases. Our goal is to co-release a majority of academic resources from 5 of the major publishers the same day they are released by the publisher (we’ve been doing this since November but wanted to make sure we were able to consistently deliver before we made a public announcement). 3. To offer better pricing. Where possible, we plan to have the lower production costs reflected in the price we sell the book for. We can’t always do this because we don’t always control prices. But where we can, we will.
We decided to introduce Logos reader editions for a number of reasons, but here are the three biggest:
1. To expand our catalog beyond what we would normally offer by keeping production costs down. Reader editions allow us to include books in our catalog that would otherwise not make it into Logos. While they don’t’ have the full markup of a research editions, they are significantly better than ebooks.2. To release more books at the same day as the publisher. The announcement of Reader Editions coincides with our announcement about Same-day releases. Our goal is to co-release a majority of academic resources from 5 of the major publishers the same day they are released by the publisher (we’ve been doing this since November but wanted to make sure we were able to consistently deliver before we made a public announcement). 3. To offer better pricing. Where possible, we plan to have the lower production costs reflected in the price we sell the book for. We can’t always do this because we don’t always control prices. But where we can, we will.
I have calmed down now and I for one will support this change. But, if the ship should be headed for the shoals I shall sound the alarm. Carry on FL I am with you. Thanks, for your years of innovation and service.
May I ask what is tagged in the reader edition that is not tagged in the ebook edition? What extra Marked Up are there in the reader edition that is searchable which is not searchable in the ebook edition
Ben answered that here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/190556/1099021.aspx#1099021
As Bradley pointed out, ebooks are automatically generated based on what we are sent from the publisher. They get almost no extra work. They don't have page numbers, Bible citations are only tagged if they follow a certain format, internal linking doesn't work, and overall the formatting and layout is often subpar.
"eBook Editions" are converted from the input files with an automated process. Unambiguous Bible references are tagged, but ambiguous ones (e.g., "see note on v. 3") are often not. "Logos Reader" editions have a human QC pass that tags these references properly, makes the formatting consistent, etc. Thus, the reading experience will be improved, and you'll have greater accuracy when searching for Bible references.
Surprised no one has given the simple answer.
7,418.
How simple did you want:
At least that's what I thought has been said.
It was a math joke.
Got it - sorry I'm on my first cup of coffee[:$]
