Verse-by-Verse Personal Book(s) on the Pentateuch by E.M. Zerr

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 23 2020 11:42 AM

Mark Johns:

I don't get the A B C D D F Links to select from\

When I click on the three dots all I get is a menu
with 2-3 main options:

[ }Resources
[ ]Notes and Highlights
[ ]Notes and Highlights (Corresponding)

EDITED to reference screenshot:

You clicked the visual filter menu, which is three dots stacked like a pyramid, to the left-middle of the locator bar (red box). 

The menu relevant to the link sets is the "kebap menu" with three vertically stacked dots at the top right corner of the resource tab - indicated with an arrow and a green box around it in my screenshot below. This menu also is relevant should you want to Print/Export or build a link to any place in a resource in Logos....

Running Logos 9 latest (beta) version on Win 10

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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 23 2020 11:49 AM


When I start with empty desktop in LOGOS and select Bible and Commentary Layout
My NKJV loads on the left and my NAC  Commentary loads on the right side.  Then I 
See the Orange A in the Tab for each, but when I click on the three dots, I still don't see
any menu like in you screenshot....


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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 23 2020 12:00 PM

Mark Johns:
when I click on the three dots, I still don't see
any menu like in you screenshot....

Hi Mark, 

are you sure you click the right menu? NOT the red Visual Filter menu and NOT the yellow application menu, but the green, tab specific "kebap-menu". It will always look like this, no preferences, settings, functionality or package needed


Running Logos 9 latest (beta) version on Win 10

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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 23 2020 12:03 PM

Boy.  I feel like a dummy!

If I looked more closely at you message I would not have misunderstood.

I am still an old WORDSearch/e-Sword  "DOG" trying to learn a new trick.

I am guilty of trying to put things together without reading the instructions.

I actually learned how to do Milestones by examining a .docx file that Carla (cshover) sent me.

Thanks again for the reply...

Glad I looked closer.   Sometimes it helps to read the instructions and not just look at the pictures.
Maybe that's why people have trouble with Study Bibles.  All the bells and whistles, Maps, graphics,
charts etc... distract people to where they don't pay close attention to God's instructions..... Maybe
I can get an illustration out of this for a sermon.


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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 23 2020 12:08 PM

This is sweet NB.Mick....Now I can begin to do more and better
Bible study thanks to your assistance.

Does this mean that I can Link my favorite Bible Translation to all my Greek Tools, etc.??
And have say, the NIV in the panel to the left, and my Greek Word Study, Interlinear, etc. in 
the right panel and then save that layout.  I know there are layout just for that, just haven't
investigated that part of LOGOS yet.  It has been 40 yrs since i had Greek in Bible College.

Glad to have a program like LOGOS that has more "PUNCH" when it comes to Greek Word
Studies, etc....

Thanks again.  Gotta go finish 2nd Samuel for the Zerr Bible Commentary.  Hope to Post that
one on this forum tonite..


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James C. | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 23 2020 12:10 PM

This might be helpful for others.

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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 23 2020 12:22 PM


Thanks for that YouTube Video!

Noticed that it had the Zerr's Commentary in that video.

Is it available somewhere else that I don't know about?

Didn't realize there was already a LOGOS Version.  Or, did

you just make that?   Interesting......

Thanks again.  That Video is informative.


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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 23 2020 12:25 PM

Just realized James that you just made that video today.

Good job....

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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 23 2020 2:04 PM

Please find below the Book of Second Samuel from E.M. Zerr's Bible Commentary.

Like the other books, all the necessary "Milestones" have been added to this book.

Like the other books so far, it Compiles with no mistake and/or errors.

0844.Zerr-2nd Samuel.with BI.docx

Currently, I am working on First Kings by E.M. Zerr.


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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 23 2020 4:42 PM

Please find below the image file for the Zerr Bible Commentary 

The Zerr's Commentaries from which the LOGOS Personal book
look just like this Green Book.  Now, you can "Change" the image
when you "Compile" and build your book...

Sorry I didn't upload this sooner.  


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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 24 2020 9:37 AM

Please find below E.M. Zerr's Commentary on the book of 1st Kings.
this now completes Zerr's Commentary for Genesis thru 1st Kings.

8322.Zerr-1st Kings.with BI.docx

This part of Zerr's Commentary (1st Kings) features the appropriate "Milestones" to qualify this Commentary
as a LOGOS type Bible Commentary.

The previous books - :"Genesis thru 2nd Samuel" have already been uploaded to this forum.  Simply go back
until you find the latest links posted on this forum on Thursday October 22nd.  That's just two days ago...

Have fun and enjoy.  all the books when loaded into the LOGOS Personal Book Editor/Creator should now
compile without any mistakes and/or errors whatsoever.


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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 25 2020 7:28 AM

Find inserted into this post the Book of Second Kings from Zerr's Bible Commentary.

All Milestones included.  Please excuse any spelling or Grammar mistakes.

5672.Zerr-2nd Kings.with BI.docx


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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 3:04 AM

What gives?   had to go back into my Browsers history to log on to this forum.]

Anyone know what Nile Shore is?

So what if LOGOS gave me all the works of Shakespear and all those Latin Commentaries?  Big Deal!

The migration from WORDSearch has all but dried up, now this announcement and am unable to access
anything on the LOGOS Website?  Guess it looks more and more like I may have to go back to e-Sword.  It
wasn't the greatest, but at least it is free.  So is theword software.  And SwordSearcher is looking better and
better.  Have to admit that I am getting tired already of creating Books for a bible softeware that looks like it
might cost hundreds of dollars I don't have.  Not working now because of the Pandemic.  Good thing my wife
went back to work.  Now I can sit here a play with a software that the average person cannot afford to upgrade.

Now, I wander what people did before there was Bible Software?  And all they had (like me) was WordPerfect
when it was on floppy discs.  Saw something on Facebook wondering if LOGOS was taking lessons from the 
Microsoft gameplan.  I sure hope not.

Please LOGOS.....Prove me wrong.  I think maybe WORDSearch should have bought out LOGOS and made a 
product that was more affordable.   Please LOGOS, tell me I am wrong.  Sorry for the ranting and raving.  I'm just
not happy that they could give me all the works of Shakespear but have to wait until after the big announcement
to one day deliver the books from my WORDSearch Library that are "MISSING IN ACTION."  I think that perhaps
my books are being held hostage.   The good LORD knows that I'm hoping and praying that the Ransom to get my
books to MIGRATE is not so HUGE that it forces me to choose another bible software that is more affordable.

Yeah.  Don't get me wrong.  I am beginning to like this LOGOS software but if they don't implement the missing
user friendly features of WORDSearch without charging an exorbitant upgrade fee, I will be on "Unhappy Camper..."


PS.  The E.M. Zerr Commentary on First Chronicles I plan on posting later today.  With a big snow predicted for our area
looks like I am going to be stuck indoors for a couple days.  May be able to finish Zerr's Volume Two of his Bible Commentary 
for LOGOS.  Not giving up on LOGOS yet.  Just kinda blindsided by being unable to access the helpful information on the 
LOGOS website.....

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James C. | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 4:22 AM

Mark Johns:

What gives?   had to go back into my Browsers history to log on to this forum.]

Anyone know what Nile Shore is?


niLe ShOre is GOne is "Logos nine is here". 

Logos is launching a new version, Logos 9. The website will be down till about 6am today when they do their live premier. Things will be a little crazy over the next week because of this. Don't get worried this happens every time they release a new version.

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cshover8669 | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 5:22 AM

James is correct. New version launching today 9:00 AM eastern, 6:00 AM pacific. Hopefully some eagerly anticipated feature upgrades.

Hang in there, will get better soon. Carla

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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 5:53 AM

OK.  Was getting worried.  WORDSearch never did this.  Been with them and QuickVerse for 20 years.

Being stuck at home during this Pandemic does not enable me to afford a major upgrade right now.

On SS and preaching for a small church does not allow an expensive purchase.  Especially since the
books I need haven't been Migrated over from WORDSearch.

I hope that LOGOS will not disappoint WORDSearch Users right off the bat while Migration is still in it's infancy.

AN EXTREMELY REDUCED UPGRADE FOR WORDSearch Users (Well under $100 ) would go a long ways
to keeping many of those WORDSearch users.  After all, my last major upgrade to Version 12.0 was less than
$50.  I would expect something on that order for all the New WORDSearch users that are considering being a
part of the LOGOS User Base.

I have been preaching for over 40 yrs. and still have many years left in me.  It's just that the timing and unknown
cost has kinda put a damper on my spirits.  Not all preachers and Sunday School teachers out there are employed
by "MEGA CHURCHES" who can afford all the bells and whistles. 

If the LOGOS upgrade for WORDSearch Users is comparable to a WORDSearch upgrade, say for Version 13.0+,
then I am onboard.  Provided the cost is in line with my Income Level and that cost is not due until all my Books
on the Migration Page are transferred over to my LOGOS.

Here are some things that would be nice to see in a new LOGOS Version: (i.e. Ver. 9.0 or greater):
1. More graphical as in a more user-friendly interface.
2. A proper Illustration Database, etc.. allowing preachers, etc. to keep track of Sermon Illustrations, Stories, with capabilities
    to insert Milestones and make/create Illustration User Books comparable to the other Books available in a User's Library.
3. More powerful Sermon Creator with Outliner features, etc...that is also synced and/or merged with the above Illustration 
    Database, making it easier to find, locate, edit, insert Illustrations (with Milestones?) into a preacher's sermons.
4. Perhaps even a feature similar to the above idea about a Sermon Creator that also includes ability for a Sunday School
    Teacher, Elder, Preacher, easily generate ClassBooks for Sunday School or Personal Bible Study purposes. The old
     Lesson Maker feature in WORDSearch was OK, but not as powerful as it could have been.  I have nearly 3,000 Books in
     WORDSearch, but the Old Lesson Maker did not work with many of my WORDSearch Books and Volumes.

5. Guess what I'm really look for is some way to EASILY do all the above in LOGOS without a HUMONGOUS Expense.
    Maybe even some kind of "Card File System" for Sermons, Illustrations, Gospel Tracts.  Something that a Preacher, Teacher,
    or Missionary in some far off Mission Field could use to easily generate Booklets, Tracts, Pamplets for use in Mission Fields.
    All of this I suppose, could be kinda like the Old Desktop Publisher, enabling small churches or preachers on a limited income
    to easily publish professionally looking material from Books and Volumes already in their LOGOS Library.

I suppose someone will say "You don't want much, do you?"  It's just these are some things that I've wanted for years in QuickVerse, then
in WORDSearch.  WORDSearch got close at times, but not close enough.  If LOGOS can get a little closer than WORDSearch to these
ideas floating around in my finite mind, I'll be a happy camper.  Provided someone doesn't take me to the cleaners on the upgrade costs.


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cshover8669 | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 6:00 AM

Just a thought. If you can afford a subscription to Faithlife Connect, an upgrade doesn't have to cost you anything extra. The Faithlife connect subscription without library is only $99 a year, and includes monthly free, books, an additonal discount on base packages, 2 free mobile ed courses a yeart, etc.

There is a new Sermon Manager in L9, but I haven't kicked the tires yet and won't be able to until I am off work today. I will email you about it after I do the training on MP Seminars and experiment with it a little bit.  it might be what you need.  

If you have the subscription, you get all new features automatically as soon as they have been released.


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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 6:04 AM


Thanks.... Provided the upgrade costs outweigh the benefits of the New Features.

Really beginning to like LOGOS more and more each day.  I cannot afford to fully Retire
if I have to shell a lot of "$$$"  right now.  Besides, been married for over 40 yrs and I
want to be able to not only preserve peace in the family, but if I spend a lot on BIble Software
right now, I might have to cut back on my contributions on Sunday.  Don't think God would
like that.

It's just that Buying Bible Software, or even Microsoft Office is kinda like Wanting to buy a
Cadillac Escalade, but you can only afford something on a used Cheverolet budget.  I want
to have the improvements in LOGOS, but at what COST????


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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 6:12 AM

Sorry Carla,

Hope you don't mind my "Venting"   Makes me want to ask LOGOS, "How Low can you go?"
$99 sounds good  but would like to see something more like a monthly charge (less than $10)

With everything going on in the world today, it would be easier on my household budget if I
could do what you suggest without having to pay a large subscription fee up front.  Don't know
how many thousands of WORDSearch users are out there, but some better financial options
would go a long way towards keeping them in the LOGOS Customer base.

BTW, I will look forward to your email.   I would like to know what you find out.



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Mark Johns | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 6:20 AM


Forgot to mention that I have about nearly 4,700 Books and/or Volumes in my LOGOS Program.
Many of them thanks to my investments in QuickVerse and WORDSearch over the past 20 years.
When I retired early several yrs ago and moved 500 miles away, I had to sacrifice making a lot of "$$$"
But that was a choice I made, along with my wife so we could both be near relatives whom we love.
Besides, that still allowed me to preach at least 3 Sundays per month out here in the MidWest.  If I
still worked my old job, I could afford the best  package deal for LOGOS, but making the prope life
choices is more important.  If affordable I will stay with LOGOS, and I will continue to make Personal
Books for LOGOS, as long as future updates will be compatible with what I make and compile now
in Version 8.0.



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