Complete Index to Spurgeon's Sermons (Logos Edition)

Mark Barnes
Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

By popular demand, here's an updated version of my Complete Index to Spurgeon's Sermons. To use it, you need to compile it as a personal book. This version works with the Complete Spurgeon Sermon Collection, produced by Logos. The file contains three indexes - a scripture index, an alphabetical index, and one organised by volume/sermon number. I recommend that you compile the index as a Bible Commentary so that the Scripture index will show in your Passage Guide.

0552.Index to Spurgeons Sermons (Logos Edition).docx

The screenshot shows the three indexes side by side. In the actual resource the indexes are one after the other. If you prefer you can separate the three indexes into three separate files. If you don't want to make your own cover image, this one should do:

Over 100 errors in the original source have already been corrected, but if you notice any more, please let me know on this thread. If you need an index for the edition of these sermons that was published by AGES, that's also available.

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  • Scott S
    Scott S Member Posts: 423 ✭✭

    Thank you Mark!

  • Larry D. Sherraden
    Larry D. Sherraden Member Posts: 12 ✭✭

    Mark, wonderful work!  Thank you.

  • Paul-C
    Paul-C Member Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭
  • William Gabriel
    William Gabriel Member Posts: 1,091 ✭✭

    Wow, that is a sweet resource. Thanks for investing the time to make that for us.

  • NetworkGeek
    NetworkGeek Member Posts: 3,770 ✭✭✭

    Mark, thank you so much! This looked to be a tough job as the tagging was much different, so thank you for your effort, ingenuity, or both!

  • Timothy Howe
    Timothy Howe Member Posts: 17 ✭✭

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!!![:D]

  • Jonathan Sine
    Jonathan Sine Member Posts: 453 ✭✭

    Mark - you rock! Thanks much...

    Jonathan Sine

    Pastor - Squamish Baptist Church

    2 Cor. 4.6

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,225

    Thanks a lot, Mark!

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,834

    Thank you very much, Mark.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • HansK
    HansK Member Posts: 570 ✭✭

    Thank you very much.

     

    MacOS Sierra / Logos 7 Collector's Edition & All Base Packages / Logos Now

  • Paul N
    Paul N Member Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭

    not to be redundant, but Thank You!

  • David Scott
    David Scott Member Posts: 58 ✭✭

    Thanks for this. Incredibly helpful!

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    This is excellent. Thank you Mark! Does anyone know how to go about making resources like this? It would be great to be able to have a scripture index like this that included every sermon in my library! I know how to tag the Bible references, but not how to link to the logos resource like this.

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    I know how to tag the Bible references, but not how to link to the logos resource like this.

    The Wiki has a short section on creating links in Personal Books: http://wiki.logos.com/Personal_Books#Resource_links

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  • Dave Moser
    Dave Moser Member Posts: 473 ✭✭✭

    Mark,

    1. Thank you!

    2. How did you put this together so fast? I'm thinking of compiling an index for Piper's and, soon, Keller's sermon manuscript libraries but I know no method which isn't prohibitively labor-intensive.

    God bless!

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Dave said:

    How did you put this together so fast? I'm thinking of compiling an index for Piper's and, soon, Keller's sermon manuscript libraries but I know no method which isn't prohibitively labor-intensive.

    The old edition of the Sermons already had an index available. Previously I had exported that index in HTML format. I then wrote a script that parsed that export file to extract the information about each sermon and place it in a database. I corrected the data where necessary (the original index had several errors). Another script then generated the three indexes from that data and saved it as a HTML file which I then imported into Word. All I needed to do this time was figure out a way of converting the data to work with the new referencing system in the new edition. Thankfully the hidden article tags are mostly logical and consistent (they start at 1 and increment by 1), so it wasn't too difficult.

    I don't have Keller's sermons, but Piper's sermons would need indexing manually as the index provided doesn't include Scripture references. It's possible that Desiring God might have an index they could send you though. It's also possible that someone might be able to scrape their website and extract the data from there. It's not a bad idea, actually, but I'm unlikely to have the time to do it myself, at least at the moment.

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  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Thanks again Mark!

    It would be great to have a scripture index like this that had a link to every sermon that was available as a Logos resource! 

    Or Logos could make a scripture index sermon guide so that every sermon in someones library for a particular verse would show up (instead of just ones that quote that verse somewhere). 

  • toughski
    toughski Member Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭

    Dave said:

    How did you put this together so fast? I'm thinking of compiling an index for Piper's and, soon, Keller's sermon manuscript libraries but I know no method which isn't prohibitively labor-intensive.

    Didn't Logos3 have an AUTOMATIC feature to produce an index of all scriptures used in a particular resource? Reference Browser? is it implemented in any way in L4/5?

  • toughski
    toughski Member Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭
  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,984

    toughski said:

    is it implemented in any way in L4/5?

    I've made them for lectionaries with a copy to put the text in a clipboaard and then Passage list with an add from clipboard. Imperfect but it meets my immediate needs.






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  • Dave Moser
    Dave Moser Member Posts: 473 ✭✭✭

    toughski said:

    Didn't Logos3 have an AUTOMATIC feature to produce an index of all scriptures used in a particular resource? Reference Browser? is it implemented in any way in L4/5?

    My hope is to run a search to find all the sermons that Spurgeon preached on a particular passage. I don't want the sermons he preached that merely reference the passage in question as a cross reference. Therefore, automatically finding every reference to a passage is counterproductive to me. I'm specifically looking to exclude most Scripture references in the collection.

    The index Mark put together allows me to focus only on those instances when the passage in question was the main focus of Spurgeon's sermon. Now all I need to do is to create similar indicies for my other favorite preachers (Piper, Keller (when his sermons come out), etc).

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭
  • Dave Moser
    Dave Moser Member Posts: 473 ✭✭✭

    Mark,

    I'm working on an index of Jonathan Edwards' sermons and have run into a sticking point: I'm having trouble with the PBB not recognizing resource link offsets. I notice that in the Spurgeon index you used a different link structure which allowed you to link to chapter headings. Where can I find documentation on that?

    Thanks!

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Dave said:

    I'm working on an index of Jonathan Edwards' sermons and have run into a sticking point: I'm having trouble with the PBB not recognizing resource link offsets. I notice that in the Spurgeon index you used a different link structure which allowed you to link to chapter headings. Where can I find documentation on that?

    That's a good question. There isn't any, as far as I know.

    All I'm doing is linking to headings rather than page numbers. The difficulty comes in knowing how each heading is referenced. There's an easy method and a hard method. Thankfully, if you're talking about the sermons in Jonathan Edwards' works, volume 2, the easy method will work.

    Easy method:

    1. Find a link that you want to replicate (the 'printed' table of contents at the beginning of a resource is the obvious place to look).
    2. Select that link (or the entire TOC), choose print/export from the resource menu, and send it to Microsoft Word (if you don't have Word, copy it to the clipboard instead, and paste it into your word processor of choice). Note that you can't copy from the right-click menu, you must do it from the print/export screen.
    3. Once the link/TOC is in Word, you can see the hyperlink displayed as a hover, and you can edit the hyperlink to copy it to the clipboard. For example, JE's Sinners in the Hands of an angry God is logosres:wrkjonedwrds2;pos=DIV1.SERM2

    Hard method:

    Only use the hard method if you can't find a link in the resource that you can copy/paste (i.e. if the only 'link' is in the TOC you can turn on/off from the resource menu, and there's no TOC at the beginning of the resource). I'll use the 'Application' sub-heading to Sinners in the Hands as an example, as the sub-headings aren't included in the 'printed' TOC.

    1. Go to the right heading, by clicking on it in the TOC at the left of the resource.
    2. Copy that heading to the clipboard (this time you should use the right-click menu).
    3. Open up a clipboard monitoring program like CLCL.
    4. Ensure that the Libronix.DigitalLibrary.ResourceTextRangeDropData type is selected in the left-hand pane.
    5. In the righthand pane, look for the text that begins 'StartPosition=Article%3d'. Everything after this text, but before the next % sign is your position. In this case it's DIV1.SERM2.APPL
    6. Back in Logos, copy the current location to the clipboard. You'll get a location with an offset, like this: logosres:wrkjonedwrds2;ref=Page.p_9;off=3191
    7. Delete everything after the semi-colon and replace it with 'pos=', and then the string you wrote down in (5). So in our example, it's logosres:wrkjonedwrds2;pos=DIV1.SERM2.APPL

    Whichever method you choose, if you're constructing an index, you'll probably quickly spot a pattern to the links which will allow you to more quickly create your index without too much copy/pasting.

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  • Dave Moser
    Dave Moser Member Posts: 473 ✭✭✭
  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Dave said:

    You might want to add that to the wiki.

    Thanks. I added a link to this post, instead.

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  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Dave,

    Any chance you can post your doc on the files forum when you are finished? It would be great to have an index of Pipers and Edwards sermons.

    Thanks!

  • Dave Moser
    Dave Moser Member Posts: 473 ✭✭✭

    Any chance you can post your doc on the files forum when you are finished? It would be great to have an index of Pipers and Edwards sermons.

    It's going to be a lot more than Piper and Edwards. Give me a few weeks and I'll have them up.

  • Dave Moser
    Dave Moser Member Posts: 473 ✭✭✭

    Mark,

    Would you mind if I posted a modified version of your Spurgeon sermon index on my sermon indices page (retaining your credit in the file)? I've removed 2 of the sections to avoid redundant search results.

    Thanks!

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Would you mind if I posted a modified version of your Spurgeon sermon index on my sermon indices page (retaining your credit in the file)? I've removed 2 of the sections to avoid redundant search results.

    That's absolutely fine.

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  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭

    Finally got around to adding this now that I have Spurgeon's sermons.  Thanks!

  • James William Roberts, Jr.
    James William Roberts, Jr. Member Posts: 184 ✭✭

    Could one combine all the sermon indexes to include all the sermons by various authors and have it show you what you may have in your own library to use?

    I've been working at one and it is tedious to try and keep all the scriptures together as they should be.

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    The newish sermons section of the Passage Guide aims to do this in Logos 5 and 6. These indexes are less necessary now.

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  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭

    Soon I hope.  For Ps 23:1-6, The Sermon Starter Guide picks up 6 hits total, all from Spurgeon. My own index picks up 43, 16 from Spurgeon alone.    

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Gao Lu said:

    My own index picks up 43, 16 from Spurgeon alone.

    My index (this one) picks up the same 6 Spurgeon ones as Logos. Where are your extra ones coming from?

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  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭

    Closer analysis reveals...

    In my Spurgeon Index I  have 16 hits in 12 articles.  6 of those are index hits, pointing dutifully to the actual sermons.  

    It's beginning to look like Logos Index wins over the Spurgeon Index hands down.  

    But enter the Bible Study Index.  It actually picks up 41 articles from my library.  A few are repeats of Spurgeon and not a few devotionals.  Maybe quality hits are a function of the definition of "sermon."  When I want sermons I don't really want sparse outlines or devotionals or book chapters.  My Index produces unwanted and "iffy" stuff."

    Here's the good stuff my own index picked up:

    • Several good devotionals that are relevant to sermons. A devotional collection would pick these up.  Maybe they don't qualify as sermons.
    • FB Meyer - "the Shepherd Lord"    Heritage of Great Evangelical Teaching
    • FB Meyer - "The Banquet"          HGET
    • Rufus Jones "He Babbled of Green Fields"  The Treasury of Great Preaching
    • Martin Luther "The Lord is..."   HGET
    • Chip Ingram "In Time of Crisis"  Finding God when you need Him most (I think this qualifies as a sort of sermon)
    • Muller  "On the 23rd Psalm"   Jehovah Magnified:Addresses  (Sermon?  or Address?)
    • Nelson's Annual Preachers Sourcebook (more source material or outlines than sermon, but valuable)
    • A few good book hits - arguably more book-ish than sermon-ish

      Conclusion:

    Logos Index is narrow and the quality of hits high.  But for Ps 23, all I get is Spurgeon (who is very good!).  My own Index is broader and produces quite a few "iffy" hits, but I also pick up some good stuff I wouldn't want to miss.  

       

  • Doug Smith
    Doug Smith Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    Came across this today. Works great. Thank you, Mark.

  • NathanL
    NathanL Member Posts: 152 ✭✭

    Another one to come across this in 2020 :)

    This is is massively helpful to me and will mean my consumption of Spurgeon sermons will go through the roof! Thanks, if you're still around :)

    "Your speech must always be with grace, as though seasoned with salt, so that you will know how you should respond to each person." - Colossians 4:6

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    nl said:

    Another one to come across this in 2020 :)

    This is is massively helpful to me and will mean my consumption of Spurgeon sermons will go through the roof! Thanks, if you're still around :)

    Im interested in how people read sermons. How do you work them into your reading agenda? Just pick a volume and read all the sermons? Pick a Bible book to go through and find the sermons on each pericope? I read sermons every now and then but I’d love to hear some practical Ways you all read them.

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,834

    Liam said:

    Just pick a volume and read all the sermons?

    Generally that's how I do it, either in Logos or with a physical book. Of course, I don't usually read all the sermons in a book. I might skip some or just dip in for a few. My sermon reading is irregular. I have a number or sermon books (in print) waiting for me to open them.

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    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,984

    How to Read the Bible by Kallistos Ware gives a great description of how many Eastern Christians and some Western Christians read sermons ... in addition to the reading of them in the Office of the Readings from the Divine Office.

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  • Mark Johns
    Mark Johns Member Posts: 277 ✭✭

    Mark,  I have all pf Spugeon's works, but got them as an WordSearch user.  Now that They have been migrated over to Logos, how can I get your resource to work with them??

  • NathanL
    NathanL Member Posts: 152 ✭✭

    Liam said:

    nl said:

    Another one to come across this in 2020 :)

    This is is massively helpful to me and will mean my consumption of Spurgeon sermons will go through the roof! Thanks, if you're still around :)

    Im interested in how people read sermons. How do you work them into your reading agenda? Just pick a volume and read all the sermons? Pick a Bible book to go through and find the sermons on each pericope? I read sermons every now and then but I’d love to hear some practical Ways you all read them.

    A very late reply, but I read sermons purely by scripture or topic that I'm interested in.

    I'll read a verse that I want to go deeper into and search for a Spurgeon sermon on that verse or the same topic.

    Or also I've saved a bunch of sermons that interest me into favourites, and I'll scroll through and pick one that I'm interested in.

    "Your speech must always be with grace, as though seasoned with salt, so that you will know how you should respond to each person." - Colossians 4:6

  • William Chappell
    William Chappell Member Posts: 1

    Mark... Thank you!   I have been using paper index lists, so your work is a huge improvement for me.  My only issue while selecting a sermon is that Logos states "You don't have a license for this book" while providing a limited view of the specified sermon book.. But I do own the entire Spurgeon Sermon Series??? I added the Spurgeon series to my library long ago during the early Libronix age (late 80's?).  Logos has since honored my early library purchases and upgraded all books to the current format as I use Logos 10.  The Spurgeon series is currently in my library, but your wonderful index tool apparently is not permitted to access my Spurgeon files, requiring I note the book and sermon number and then select the appropriate Spurgeon book from my library.  Certainly, as is, that is still a huge improvement, but I suspect your index tool is designed to directly open the appropriate Spurgeon book.  Any thoughts?  Thank you,  Bill