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John Kight | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 14 2015 11:49 AM

Eric Bentz:

Does anybody know how close to production we are for this app? I haven't heard anything since I bid on it months ago?

Any idea for a release date?

From the looks of it you are probably better off getting a new device if mobile access to you Logos library is a priority.  

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 18 2015 2:50 PM

It's a catch 22. People won't buy devices without proper apps and people won't make proper apps because few people are buying these tablets.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 31 2015 12:28 AM

OK, Windows 10 are here and it is about the time to come out with the Logos Universal Application... Stick out tongue

Bohuslav

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 31 2015 7:19 AM

Are they waiting for Jesus to come back before offering the new Windows 10 Universal Application?

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Michael Morse | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 3 2015 11:13 AM

Allow a higher bid to be put in, at this point I would be willing to pay more to get the app done.  If we knew what the whole project would entail cost wise, perhaps we would be willing to do what is needed to get it done.  Maybe we could put it on a payment plan or make it part of a subscription price to get the windows app.

Make the Original Windows APP as well as the IOS or Android code along with the Logos API's available and I would be happy to write my own program for myself.

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Justin Mourn | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 5:13 AM

I agree completely!

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 5:24 AM

Someone help me understand the need for this app. If you have Logos on windows, and windows 10 is accessible on mobile devices...I would appreciate help in knowing the benefits of an app as opposed to the program.  Thanks.

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danwdoo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 6:58 AM

Mark:

Someone help me understand the need for this app. If you have Logos on windows, and windows 10 is accessible on mobile devices...I would appreciate help in knowing the benefits of an app as opposed to the program.  Thanks.

A mobile app would work on less powerful machines that often have less storage as well. Think of a $100-$200 tablet, netbook, or even a phone. A mobile app would let you chose a subset of resources to install locally so you would not overload a 32GB or even a 64GB device. It would also hopefully be smaller and faster and while it might not offer every current feature, it would be designed for speed to work on the go when you might be in a situation where you want to quickly access a bible or resource. It would also hopefully be less dependent on having online access. Possibly, it might even be a great opportunity to clean up the code and get some real efficiency going.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 7:45 AM

I've heard there were 15m devices upgraded to 10 thus far.

Guessing that means this program might gain some traction in the near future :)

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danwdoo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 8:15 AM

abondservant:

I've heard there were 15m devices upgraded to 10 thus far.

Guessing that means this program might gain some traction in the near future :)

That statistic (14 million) was in the first 24 hours so it should be significantly higher now. I heard one recent rumored statistic as high as 67 million, but that hasn't been verified. The key thing will be how many tablets and smaller devices people start buying as well as how many traditional desktop/laptop users start purchasing apps from the store. A relatively small percentage did in 8, resulting in many developers such as Faithlife choosing to rely strictly on their existing desktop app. If the app store catches on in a big way, that will lead to an incentive for developers to publish more apps there. Let's hope that 10 accomplishes what 8 did not.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 8:22 AM

danwdoo:
I heard one recent rumored statistic as high as 67 million

... But. more importantly, how many of those 67 million are willing to help pay for an initial build of a free app? 

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Michael Morse | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 5 2015 12:02 PM

The mobile app would be useful for small scale study where the whole library isn't necessarily needed.  Also Windows has no Logos Reader app with lookup functionality or highlighting capabilities.  With the reader app I would like the ability to do side by side reading note taking and commentary searching while using less processor and memory.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2015 2:32 PM

People who own a Windows Phone need it because Logos 6 desktop WON'T run on it. That's an extremely small segment of the Logos isntall base given the lackluster performance of the prepub offering.

People who own a Windows tablet/laptop/computer with 32 or maybe even 64 GB of storage need it if they own a large libarary, like I do. I can't install it and the program runs very slowly from an SD card. Some don't mind the performance, I'm not one of those.

What I'd really like to see is a feature in the desktop software to install only the desire books, much like I can do on an iPad or Android device. That's apparantly too complicated a fix. Logos devs seem occupied with other things or maybe they're working on it and can't tell yet.

My preferred solution to all of the above plus a few other problems is a feature rich version of the Logos Web App that's also mobile friendly. That would fix most of the problems for people who can use it while online.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 20 2015 2:55 PM

Apologies if this shows my ignorance.  But can biblia.com work?  I wish it would stop being in beta as it seems to be a way to at least access resources from a phone if there is no app.  Has this been abandoned in a perpetual beta?  I do not know the popularity of windows phones or tablets, but I am saddened to hear that L6 wont run on it.

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Bob Schaefer | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 25 2015 12:03 PM

I see there is now a "Faithlife News" app for iOS. It gathers headlines from various Christian news feeds. This is apparently a greater priority for Faithlife than a Windows universal app. And you can bet they didn't ask potential Faithlife News users to cough up $90 to demonstrate their commitment to this important new app.

Seriously, who was even asking for such a thing?

I'm tired of Faithlife. I want Logos back. Logos made Bible software.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 26 2015 2:59 AM

I just started to use Logos on Lenovo Yoga 2 tablet and, yes, Logos works fine, I have used all the tricks advised here on forums to install it. I use junction to get all my resources (more than 5000) to the SD card etc. All works well enough I can imagine I will use it  (especially when with keyboard, since Logos 6 is not touch-friendly at all)

But... my conclusion is, we still need Windows Universal App. to just do all the simple things we usually do on tablets (look-up Bible reference, plain book reading...)

I don't mind Faithlife doing all kind of little apps for iOS. I don't mind all of this is done (possibly) without all the interest research among the customers. What I don't understand is that in the situation Microsoft went so far to make it as easy to re-use the iOS/Android code as possible, Faithlife would still not produce Universal App for all the traditional Logos users (yes, traditional. I remember those days without iOS, OSX etc. Logos versions).

If not for a tiny Windows Phone/Windows Mobile market, do it for all the Windows Tablet users, not just Surface 3 pro, but all the low end 8" tablets with Windows 10 OS.

Bohuslav

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danwdoo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 26 2015 4:41 AM

Tablet sales are in decline (including the iPad) and have been for several quarters. The area of growth is now, and is predicted to continue to be, in 2-in-1 hybrids. (http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/3077817) The problem is Logos generally runs poor to just okay on such devices, which are typically smaller and lesser-powered than traditional laptops/desktops. Even on my main laptop, Logos is slow enough to get up and running that I often use alternative apps for quick verse lookups. This is clearly a problem for Logos and they could find themselves 'having missed the boat' without a valid, workable product in this arena. Web apps aren't the answer, either as too many of these products are Wi-Fi only.

My own example is just one example of where a Windows app would compliment the desktop app in cases where speed is most important. Logos posted about future changes to make the desktop version more touch friendly, and while this will be appreciated on such premium devices as the Surface Pro, it does nothing to answer the need of Logos on lesser hardware (which is the majority) and when speed is the primary need.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 26 2015 5:03 AM

danwdoo:

Tablet sales are in decline (including the iPad) and have been for several quarters. The area of growth is now, and is predicted to continue to be, in 2-in-1 hybrids. (http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/3077817) The problem is Logos generally runs poor to just okay on such devices, which are typically smaller and lesser-powered than traditional laptops/desktops. Even on my main laptop, Logos is slow enough to get up and running that I often use alternative apps for quick verse lookups. This is clearly a problem for Logos and they could find themselves 'having missed the boat' without a valid, workable product in this arena. Web apps aren't the answer, either as too many of these products are Wi-Fi only.

My own example is just one example of where a Windows app would compliment the desktop app in cases where speed is most important. Logos posted about future changes to make the desktop version more touch friendly, and while this will be appreciated on such premium devices as the Surface Pro, it does nothing to answer the need of Logos on lesser hardware (which is the majority) and when speed is the primary need.

You said it exactly as it is. Thanks. Yes

Bohuslav

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 26 2015 7:13 AM

Bob Schaefer:

I see there is now a "Faithlife News" app for iOS. It gathers headlines from various Christian news feeds. This is apparently a greater priority for Faithlife than a Windows universal app. And you can bet they didn't ask potential Faithlife News users to cough up $90 to demonstrate their commitment to this important new app.

Seriously, who was even asking for such a thing?

I'm tired of Faithlife. I want Logos back. Logos made Bible software.

And also a Social/Dating app called Bible Chat... 

Dan

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Mark Groen | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 9 2015 2:40 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-releases-project-islandwood-guide,30678.html

Islandwood should make this relatively easy.

If games like Candy Crush can be ported over using this tool I would think it would be possible for nearly any application.

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