Logos 8 Wishlist
What's on your Logos 8 wishlist? It could be fixing an annoying bug, refining a feature you rely on every day, or creating a brand new feature that would address a problem you encounter on a regular basis (but currently have to turn to something outside of Logos to solve).
To think of it another way, what problems would you like to see us solve? They could be problems we're already solving, but need to solve better. Or they could be problems we're currently not solving at all.
What are the most important things we should address to make Logos a better tool for you?
Your feedback doesn't need to be limited to the desktop app. Feel free to include web and mobile feedback as well.
If you've written up feedback in other threads, please link to them here so we can have everything in one place.
Thanks!
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- Pdf, Epub, Mobi reader
- Logos should make their own official collections, stop having customer-made-collections that has errors and never gets updated! Take responsibility, Logos!
- Searching in Logos sucks!!!!! Make searching SIMPLER. I don't need Bachelor degree in Logos-Searching just to use the search feature. Make a drop-down possibilities like doing highlight and morph @. Stop advancing the the academic stuffs if you don't know how to make it simple for users. USELESS for 99% of us.
- Reset button to restore all guides back to day 1.
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User-friendly vector map system, with links directly from the text.
Gold package, and original language material and ancient text material, SIL and UBS books, discourse Hebrew OT and Greek NT. PC with Windows 11
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Thanks for starting this thread, Phil!
Some of us have been hoping for a Jewish or Messianic Jewish base package:
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Reading Plans
Reading Plans
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Now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs. Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
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The ability to export public domain logos works to .mobi format (if the return of Send to Kindle isn't possible for technical/licensing reasons).
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
What are the most important things we should address to make Logos a better tool for you?
The wish list at uservoice is pretty good. https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-7
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I would love to see:
- Improvements to sentence diagramming tool (or new tools?) to make arcing/bracketing easier
- A much more open Atlas - choosing our own layers, ability to save view, add labels/arrows/symbols etc - with image export options, of course.
- Open any image in a zoomable window/pane on clicking.
- Support for manuscript images with tagged text
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On the mobile side of things, Android users still lack the ability to choose which lines get displayed/hidden on interlinear resources. Instead, ALL available lines show, making those resources practically unusable on phones with small screens. Would LOVE for that to be fixed.
EDIT: If I can add just one more thing, I would like to see Faithlife finish adding Factbook support to ALL Bible dictionaries and encyclopedias. The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge is one example of a resource that is not yet supported, but there are numerous others as well.
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Better UI
... clearer context menus (with less clutter) ... I know FL is very excited by these new data sets ... I would like to hide them
... notes that when organised do not loose their dates
... tags that work on all documents easily
... better library management (and management of Tags ... can I see all my tags, search my tags, add a definition for my tags, consolidate my tags, not just typing a few letters and hoping that I remember the correct tag!)
... panels that can be pre-assigned resource types ... I want to say that bibles will open here and dictionaries over there ...
... info window i=with intelligence .. if I click on a word, looking for a definition, I would expect the info window to notice that some like an article that simply says 'see xxx' is not helpful ... either follow the link or choose the next resource ... anything less than say 5 words should be ignored as a definition.
... speed (!) ... not smoke and mirrors ... getting the app open ... but then having to wait for the library to sort itself out before you can search etc.
... back to tagging ... the ability to switch off library refresh whilst editing tags ... for speed reasons and for preventing resources from diappering with half formed tags etc.
... fewer 'tools' and more development into the basics like above. It is getting frustrating to see so much put into 'web features' and into 'assistants' when the core program has seen such little development.
2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro
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Thanks for this opportunity.
- Ability to use pericope headings (or partial pericope headings) in the reference box of full-featured bibles.
- Personal Book availability on the Web App. (Might be less technically daunting than mobile devices, and we're already able to sync many of them to servers, anyway.)
- Personal Book tool interface that looks/behaves more like the Library window. (An FL staffer hinted at this a while back, before the mass personnel changes.)
- Personal Book Author box that predictively pre-populates based on authors already in library. (Would keep author names consistent.)
macOS (Logos Pro - Beta) | Android 13 (Logos Stable)
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Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).
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Philippians 2:3Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.
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1. +1 on a Searching interface! I cant believe how non-user friendly it is for such a basic feature. Something like Mac’s advanced searching layout seems like it would work well.
2. Also, still would like to be able to access external notes in a guide. I use Evernote, and there are lots of other apps that tie in via their API, so it seems like it would be possible. But not sure about other ones like OneNote.
3. Personal books on mobile. Yes, I am aware of Bob’s thesis, but not having it on mobile is almost like not having the feature at all these days. And for those of us working in other languages, it is a NECESSITY to be able to add in our own resources as there will never be a day Logos will make sufficient materials available in other languages.
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I would like the Atlas tool to be updated and have all of the components shipped. This is still lagging from L6. See the below most recent forum post
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/148274.aspx
Also I know this can be time consuming but there are lots of older resources that could really use updating. The one that comes to mind is the MacArthur NT Commentaries. Kyle already mentioned in a previous post that these were slated for an update but I'm sure there are many more that can use a rescanning and go through the newer process Kyle told us about that started a "few?" years ago. It can be frustrating to read a resource, see obvious errors, and then go find the print version to get the right text. Sometimes I wonder if what I'm reading I can trust fully or if there are words/sentences missing.
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Thanks for this opportunity, Phil. I would like:
SIMPLE SEEMLESS SEARCHES
I only know English. I simply will not learn the clumsy search method U now employ, the difficulty of learning I see akin to acquiring a 2nd language. I now would have no confidence in my results, as I would always think, to use one example, that if I could search as well as KS4J, I would find what I really need. So, I do not bother.
I see Logos for everybody as critical. U, as a company, will sell more ''units'' if U make getting in + getting along easier.
U beta the newest possibilities; beta the new simplicities as a separate entity. This focus SB the equivalent of the One Minute Manager attitude applied to Logos. Or, make Logos work like Tom Schreiner puts together his books: the English is simple + to the point because the subject matter covered is complex.
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David Thomas said:
Phil, please take away from windows developers mouse and let them use touch screen only for few hours/days. Let them do Bible study, highlighting and etc. Then they would instantly know how Logos compatibility is limited to touch screen. Lets face reality, touch screen is a high demand among windows users and it is still on the rise.
Also, Bible Reading Plan commend. Currently I have to go to home page to continue Bible reading plan.
EDIT: Added words "for few hours/days" to make my point clearer
"No man is greater than his prayer life. The pastor who is not praying is playing; the people who are not praying are straying." Leonard Ravenhill
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1. SPEED - like a real, normal Windows app
2. SEARCH - dummy-proof, everybody-can-use Search that intelligently taps into the wonderful data tagging FL has been doing all these years, without forcing us to learn about nitty-gritty details of sausage-making
3. PRICE - bring the prices back down to earth for real pastors, missionaries, students
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Wild Eagle said:
Phil, please take away from windows developers mouse and let them use touch screen only.
That would be devastating for every user without touchscreen.
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Jan Krohn said:Wild Eagle said:
Phil, please take away from windows developers mouse and let them use touch screen only.
That would be devastating for every user without touchscreen.
Yeah, I am definitely for improving touch performance, but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. I absolutely expect to have full mouse functionality on my desktop. That is where I do the majority of my research, and touch on four large monitors would be impractical at best.
Disclaimer: I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication. If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.
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I would also like to add stylus support - including the Adonit Pixel
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I would love to have the ability to enter comments directly onto highlighted text; instead of the notes file; and view those comments when hovering over the highlight, ala "footnotes".
For example: "Prolegomena is not apologetics. Apologetics is the defense of Christian truth-claims. It attempts to show why Christianity is intellectually acceptable. In carrying out this task, apologetic methodologies differ. Some proceed with a step-by-step verification of various Christian claims,† whereas others deal with Christianity as a whole.† But all of these approaches have in common the goal of giving some reason for accepting the truth of Christianity."
Winfried Corduan, Handmaid to Theology (Baker Book House, 1981), 1.
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I don't believe he meant take the mouse away from the Logos users; rather, take it away from the Logos developers, so they could feel the pain of those trying to use Logos on touch-screen devices and respond on the development side of things.
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mike said:
Logos should make their own official collections
Make collections for each of the Logos Base Packages, so we can distinguish what came from a particular base package. This is important to me as a teacher, so I can work with only what the students are expected to have in their Logos Library. These collections are available for Logos 4-6 in a Faithlife group, but the collections have not been made for Logos 7.
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Morphological agreement between search terms in command line searches and Visual Filters. Bible Works does this quite well.
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Dale Brueggemann said:
I don't believe he meant take the mouse away from the Logos users; rather, take it away from the Logos developers
I know. But why should the developers be any better designing mouse controls without having a mouse than designing touch controls without having a touch screen?
Remove the mouse from the testers instead!
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- Deliver on your Atlas map sets that are still outstanding from Logos 6 and improve upon the Atlas as others have already suggested.
- Deliver on journals promises
- Deliver on any outstanding data sets
- bug fixes
- Reading plans
- Reading progress that tracks across platforms.
- Pest control - get rid of current bugs including but not limited to courses tool both in desktop and webapp.
- one notes system integrated across all platforms.
- touch support - don't need it yet but one day I will so let's make it happen for all those that need it yesterday.
- no over the top marketing, just present a clear concise non ambiguous message
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:What's on your Logos 8 wishlist? It could be fixing an annoying bug, refining a feature you rely on every day, or creating a brand new feature that would address a problem you encounter on a regular basis (but currently have to turn to something outside of Logos to solve).
To think of it another way, what problems would you like to see us solve? They could be problems we're already solving, but need to solve better. Or they could be problems we're currently not solving at all.
What are the most important things we should address to make Logos a better tool for you?
Your feedback doesn't need to be limited to the desktop app. Feel free to include web and mobile feedback as well.
If you've written up feedback in other threads, please link to them here so we can have everything in one place.
Thanks!
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Thanks to you and the rest of the Faithlife team for asking, Phil.
Complete linking the German Bible Society's Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia to the Hebrew-Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament AND the Dictionary of Classical Hebrew AS WELL AS to its own Stuttgarter Elektronishe Studienbibel parsing system. (Currently the links work only for prefixes, e.g., inseparable prepositions). I do not think it sufficient for Faithlife simply to refer customers to the Lexham Hebrew Bible because it is important to have full functionality for the Hebrew Bible with an apparatus criticus.
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"No man is greater than his prayer life. The pastor who is not praying is playing; the people who are not praying are straying." Leonard Ravenhill
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Dale Brueggemann said:
I don't believe he meant take the mouse away from the Logos users; rather, take it away from the Logos developers, so they could feel the pain of those trying to use Logos on touch-screen devices and respond on the development side of things.
[Y] Thank you! Dale Brueggemann, you stated perfectly.
"No man is greater than his prayer life. The pastor who is not praying is playing; the people who are not praying are straying." Leonard Ravenhill
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
refining a feature you rely on every day, or creating a brand new feature
1. I'm very interested in the new features that could come from Andrews suggestion here...
https://community.logos.com/forums/p/133058/864689.aspx#864689
2. I'm most interested in an improvement to the systematic theologies interactive which would include topical information, and thus also create a section in the topic guides which also uses the same denomination/theological stream data. I envision it almost like the Lexham Bible guides but topically and making more use of the theology/denominational tags
3. Ctrl F capability in certain interactives such as Psalms Explorer, Proverbs Explorer, Commandments of the Law, and others which would benefit from searching the facets
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PetahChristian said:
Thanks for starting this thread, Phil!
Some of us have been hoping for a Jewish or Messianic Jewish base package:
YES!!!!
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Joseph Turner said:Jan Krohn said:Wild Eagle said:
Phil, please take away from windows developers mouse and let them use touch screen only.
That would be devastating for every user without touchscreen.
Yeah, I am definitely for improving touch performance, but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. I absolutely expect to have full mouse functionality on my desktop. That is where I do the majority of my research, and touch on four large monitors would be impractical at best.
I strongly agree. Getting rid of full mouse functionality is one of the few things that would force me to abandon my investment in Logos.
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I'm not greedy. Here's my short list:
1. SUPER SPEED at start up and when opening and closing other resources while working in Logos (Accordance and even WORDsearch are fast).
2. Ability to insert my own pictures that zoom in and out in the sermon editor (like AccordanceBible software has).
3. Ability to have hyperlinked verses in the sermon editor on mobile devices like we do on the desktop app. That way I can have my sermon open on one half of my iPad and my preferred Bible on the other half. I click on a hyperlinked reference on my sermon and it opens on my preferred Bible.
4. Make the sermon editor fully functional for all base packages. I have some friends that can't even afford a bronze BP, so that would be a tremendous help for them.
5. Include NICOT and NICNT on the Gold Package.
That's all folks! 👍😁👌
DAL
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Please bring nested folders for library managent. For example, the folder "Greek" could have a sub-folder for Grammars, one for Lexicons, etc. Included is the ability to "drag and drop" books into folders. Also, tags would be very helpful.
Thank you!
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I WANT THE LINKS THAT SHOULD WORK TO....(*wait for it*)...WORK. [Yes, I am including NET and I know it's "special" but I want it to link anyway.]
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1. Mobile App
- Multiple tabs with independent history(have many books on the go) with link sets - this is essential!
- All features offline
- Personal books with sync
- Pen annotation
- General love and attention and innovation - regular updates with new features not just maintenance
2. Desktop- Reading plans fully customisable with repetition (e.g. easy setup for reading a 'church of Revelation' each day of week and automatically repeating, or Ephesians 6 every day etc)
- Notes MUST be able to include images and tables and have easy internote hyperlinks and fully sync
- Remove restrictions on bible search (chapter boundaries etc)
- Reg Ex as an advanced searching option
- Annotation with pen/stylus/finger on some tablets (would like to hand annotate around a passage and save as a note)
- mind maps
3. Resources
- Greater selection of Creationist books (AiG etc)
- Martyn Lloyd Jones Essentials (i.e. Romans series, Studies in Sermon on the Mount etc)
4. Website
- ability to search for resources not owned and with pages size of 60 (and higher - show all??) without typing obscure url GET parameters
- Ability to search across Logos, Vyrso etc for authors, titles with one search
5. Innovation
- Ability to sync notes, docs, pbs etc via own Nas/WebDAV servers rather than Logos servers
I know some of these are being considered, but these would really make it great (and not have to wait 15 years for improvements to like (ahem) Notes!)
Thanks for asking!
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True - PBs are very important for languages other than English. Mobile PB would be great.
... and not having to pay hundreds of dollars just to get the functions of the new version would be even nicer.
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See this link for Denominational and Theology Tagging
Thank You for another opportunity to give this reminder
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Also thanks everyone above for these suggestions, I totally agree [Y]:
- #1 Improved Notes Feature, including the ability to import notes from external sources such as OneNote and others
- Notes MUST be able to include images and tables and have easy internote hyperlinks and fully sync
- nested folders in the library
- SPEED - like a real, normal Windows app
- SEARCH - dummy-proof, everybody-can-use Search that intelligently taps into the wonderful data tagging FL has been doing all these years, without forcing us to learn about nitty-gritty details of sausage-making
- Can we have Jewish base packages in Logos BS
- Messianic Starter Base Package
- How about a Mobile Ed package or a monthly plan that allows the subscriber to choose which courses to take
- Scrolling ability in popup windows instead of just truncated text or instead of having having to open the resource to read more
- nfo window i=with intelligence .. if I click on a word, looking for a definition, I would expect the info window to notice that some like an article that simply says 'see xxx' is not helpful ... either follow the link or choose the next resource ... anything less than say 5 words should be ignored as a definition.
- back to tagging ... the ability to switch off library refresh whilst editing tags ... for speed reasons and for preventing resources from diappering with half formed tags etc.
- the ability to enter comments directly onto highlighted text; instead of the notes file; and view those comments when hovering over the highlight, ala "footnotes".
- Reading plans fully customisable with repetition (e.g. easy setup for reading a 'church of Revelation' each day of week and automatically repeating, or Ephesians 6 every day etc)
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Oh and I forgot this one, The ability to add a comment or review of each resource in the library (possibly beneath the star rating).
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... and the facility to disable all 'community' comments ... across all platforms ...
Thanks.
2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro
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I would like it to not destroy my battery life.
https://community.logos.com/forums/p/148290/921537.aspx#921537
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Unlink resource display settings from a resource level and attch it to an instance level, i.e. to the panel.
e.g. I am working with a bible, study bible and commentary in a single panel with multiple resources. At another time, I open that bible, it also seems to open the other two resources, even though I am in a different session, and a different layout, and the panel is too small to accommodate three resources.
e.g I have different zoom levels for certain resources in a layout dependent on whether they're the main object of study.
e.g. In one workflow/layout I want the interlinears, visual filters et. al; in another I simply want the bible.
2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro
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This may have already changed ... I cannot check it at the moment.
Shortcuts to layouts should link automatically to the latest version of that layout, and follow even if the layout is renamed. Currently, the short cuts link to a specific instance of a layout.
2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro
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- Typing updates in the Sermon Writer (Use Command + Arrows to navigate)
- Give back the ability to insert slide breaks within the Sermon
- When using User Uploaded media, allow it to be applied to all slides at once
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- Better touch support for Windows version
- Improvements for notes. I'm glad that things are already worked on for this. Please include support for custom sort inside a notebook that can be saved. Also, think about ways to make it easier to structure an extensive topic that I am working on using notes (which is not a sermon or similar). Please, also provide a way to import notes!
- Personal Books on mobile and web (I'm happy for this to be a paid upgrade through an in-app purchase or similar)
- Filters/sort for library screen on mobile (for example to easily see my Bibles only without having to remember a command to type)
- Offline word studies on mobile or at least lookup in dictionaries in my library
Thanks for asking!
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I have another one: Ability to turn interlinear on and off on the mobile app. Accordance has a feature called "Dynamic Interlinear," and you can turn it on and off. You can even choose what you want the interlinear to display like we do in the Logos desktop app.
DAL
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- For Logos to expand its use beyond the Pastor, scholar, improve the Faithlife Assistannt. I am thinking with the Artificial Intelligence of Siri. (This is a work for many years) With the extensive tagging that is in Logos, I would like to speak and have the software understand that I want to know:
- Who is the strongest man in the Bible?
- Who is the oldest man that ever lived?
- Peter walked on water. (List the passages where it is found in order of relevance)
- "Five loaves and two fishes" The software should automatically list the passage.
Keep working on AI. It is the future.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Wild Eagle said:
Phil, please take away from windows developers mouse and let them use touch screen only for few hours/days. Let them do Bible study, highlighting and etc. Then they would instantly know how Logos compatibility is limited to touch screen. Lets face reality, touch screen is a high demand among windows users and it is still on the rise.
[Y]
Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).
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