Important changes to beta testing for v32
We hope to be shipping a beta release of v32 next week, but the process will be a little bit different from normal. In addition to downloading the beta software, you'll also need some additional licenses if you want to test all of the features. We'll distribute those licenses via a Faithlife group, and we'll post the link to the group once the beta has been released.
The group will give you access to those licenses during the beta testing period, after which the licenses will expire. If you don't join the beta group, you'll still be able to use the beta and test the bug fixes – but the new features won't be available for you to test.
I'll say more next week, but I think there are some pretty exciting things to test!
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Thanks for the heads-up; looking forward to the stable release(s). Until then, I'll do an old man a favor and back-off of the beta channel.
macOS (Logos Pro - Beta) | Android 13 (Logos Stable)
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I would love to join this. I am new to the beta testing.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
you'll also need some additional licenses if you want to test all of the features. We'll distribute those licenses via a Faithlife group, and we'll post the link to the group once the beta has been released.
Why not make all the features available for the duration of the beta and then impose license restrictions? Expose them to testing from potentially a wider audience by avoiding the "inconvenience" of registering.
Will they become part of a new Feature set, or available as an extra cost to a current Feature set(s)?
Dave
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Agreed. Why not just make it part of the beta, with license(s) that expire when it goes gold? People don't even know what it is, they have to sign up for a Faithlife group that they may not want to do, plus be in the beta - seems like a lot of hoops to me. But the big part is we don't even know what this is - how many hoops to jump through not knowing what this is?
You are either testing the beta software or you are not. No need for a bifurcation of the beta testing process from the little I know. I moved out of the beta program until I know more and can decide whether to join a Faithlife group or not.
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We did consider whether we could just automatically open up access to the beta build, but it's quite a bit of extra work for us to do so. There would be client-side work on all three platforms, and several server-side components that would need to be opened up. Just as importantly, doing so wouldn't test whether we have the license checking written correctly. To be effective, the beta build needs to be as close as possible to the forthcoming release build.
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Sign me up for the beta. Have been running all the past betas.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
I'll say more next week, but I think there are some pretty exciting things to test!
Sounds great!
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Looking forward to seeing and using what is coming next. Sign me up!!!
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I'm in.
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Interesting
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I have been a beta tester for quite some time and would like to continue!
Bob
Bob Deacon
Ipad Air 2 (ios 9.7 (0014)
Windows 11 inside edition
Samsung S23
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Sounds exciting! Thanks for the tease!
Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
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I'd be interested in helping out.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
To be effective, the beta build needs to be as close as possible to the forthcoming release build.
I understand the need. Thank you!
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Sign me up
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Can I do beta testing with my books within my library? If so how?
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Christian Alexander said:
Can I do beta testing with my books within my library? If so how?
Everybody beta-tests with their own library, that's the concept. I answered you in the other thread about how - this should not be different to the instructions in the pinned post in this beta forum.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
The group will give you access to those licenses during the beta testing period, after which the licenses will expire. If you don't join the beta group, you'll still be able to use the beta and test the bug fixes – but the new features won't be available for you to test.
We're planning to release v32 to stable tomorrow, but we'll keep these licenses active for another week or two.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
The group will give you access to those licenses during the beta testing period, after which the licenses will expire. If you don't join the beta group, you'll still be able to use the beta and test the bug fixes – but the new features won't be available for you to test.
We're planning to release v32 to stable tomorrow, but we'll keep these licenses active for another week or two.
How can one purchase access to the features such as the Summarize Tool once these beta licenses expire? Please don't take the tool away until it's available to buy in a base package or feature expansion bundle. Thanks!
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Rosie Perera said:
How can one purchase access to the features such as the Summarize Tool once these beta licenses expire? Please don't take the tool away until it's available to buy in a base package or feature expansion bundle. Thanks!
We'll be announcing how you can retain access to these features in the next week or two.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
We'll be announcing how you can retain access to these features in the next week or two.
Take your time. lol [;)]
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:Rosie Perera said:
How can one purchase access to the features such as the Summarize Tool once these beta licenses expire? Please don't take the tool away until it's available to buy in a base package or feature expansion bundle. Thanks!
We'll be announcing how you can retain access to these features in the next week or two.
Hi Mark,
I should probably wait for your announcement but I do have a question. Will FaithLife Connect subscribers get/keep the "Special" licenses or will they have to jump through the new hoops also? (Has this scenario been discussed?) I still currently have access due to the Beta program.
Thanks!
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I really like the beta tools. I do not want to have to pay for them though as I am on a small budget so please make them accessible without further purchase.
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Christian Alexander said:
I do not want to have to pay for them though as I am on a small budget so please make them accessible without further purchase.
Unfortunately, Logos has to pay/incur costs for AI features so we can expect to pay for them - whether all or over some threshold I don't know. I would rather Logos charge those who use the features rather than spreading the cost to everyone.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Maybe they will re-boot 'Faithlife Connect' (maybe 'Logos What's Happnin' Now') to include the new things. I recall not long ago some forum users were reporting odd behavior on the Faithlife Connect page, which might be an indicator that some editing was being done that accidentally went out the doggie door.
macOS (Logos Pro - Beta) | Android 13 (Logos Stable)
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I agree. The other option is to have only those who would use them pay for them! I have no intention of paying for something I don't or won't use. I have enough money invested in Logos already and I DO NOT intend to invest anymore especially if we are going to move to a subscription service!
Bob
Bob Deacon
Ipad Air 2 (ios 9.7 (0014)
Windows 11 inside edition
Samsung S23
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