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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Nov 18 2019 6:48 PM

may I resuggest:

MJ. Smith:

Okay - the last entry is very unlikely unless we talk the gourmet Bob P. into a church cookbook collection. And, yes, one is of historical interest but a bit on the diatribe side

  • The Byzantine Rite: A Short History (American Essays in Liturgy) by Robert Taft SJ
  • The Eastern Catholic Churches: An Introduction to Their Worship and Spirituality (American Essays in Liturgy) by Joan L. Roccasalvo CSJ
  • Ukrainian Catholic Catechism Our Faith by Casimir Kucharek and Creative Commons
  • Byzantine Daily Worship by Joseph Raya and Jose De Vinck
  • Eastern Prayer Book: Prayers for Various Occasions Including Divine Liturgy (Gateway to the Eastern Church) by Mr Theophilus R. Floyd M.Sc.
  • The Order Of Baptism And Confirmation According To The Byzantine Rite Of The Catholic Church by Byzantine Catholic Church
  • Byzantine Defenders of Images: Eight Saints' Lives in English Translation by Alice-Mary Talbot
  • Byzantine Slav Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, Its Origin and Evolution by Casimir Kucharek
  • Byzantine Liturgical Reform: A Study of Liturgical Change in the Byzantine Tradition by Thomas Pott
  • St Germanus of Constantinople on the Divine Liturgy by Saint, Patriarch of Constantinople Germanus I and Paul Meyendorff
  • The Byzantine Lists: ERRORS OF THE LATINS (Illinois Medieval Studies) by Tia M. Kolbaba
  • Ending the Byzantine Greek Schism: Containing: the l4th c. Apologia of Demetrios Kydones for Unity With Rome & the 'Contra errores Graecorum' of St. Thomas Aquinas by James Likoudis
  • Ethnic Delights * a Cookbook of Ascension of Our Lord Byzantine Catholic Church by Virginia Beach, VA. Friends Our Lady of Perpetual Help Byzantine Catholic Church

MJ. Smith:

Abouna Salim's book Captivated by Your Teachings
Chorbishop Seely Beggiani's Early Syriac Theology: With Special Reference to the Maronite Tradition

I believe these are very basic resources. Has Logos/Verbum considered the possible markets being opened but the exodus of Christians from the MIddle East ... you could be their go to source for religious books.

MJ. Smith:

Our Faith: A Byzantine Catechism for Adults

Casimir Kucharek (Alleluia Press)

MJ. Smith:

A number of denominational presses are very small - they have very few titles available yet those titles are particularly interesting as they provide nearly everything available about the denomination. Others are small because most of the material about the denomination is not available in English. Often these materials are more large pamphlets rather than long studies so they aren't feasible on their own. But if you offered them as collections in the $30-40 range I suspect there would be a market.

You could test the market on the Eastern rites of the Catholic Church which are of interest to Catholics and Orthodox with additional current interest due to the Christian refugees flooding out of the Near East. Some publishers to consider:

MJ. Smith:

The Copts have maintained an online free library for years see for how they choose to introduce themselves. You can view their services at For quick answers the Claremont Coptic Encyclopedia should help 

The Copts are Oriental (Syriac) Orthodox not Eastern (Byzantine) Orthodox i.e.  "pre-Chalcedonian" - but both the Eastern Orthodox and the Catholics have signed ecumenical statements negating this divide. The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church was granted autocephaly in 1959,  Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church in 1998. So the Tewahedo Church must be included in any overview.

Copts more broadly include Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, and Catholic churches. Egypt also has branches of other churches in communion with the Copts. Base churches in order of number of adherents: Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria; Coptic Catholic Church; examples of churches in communion: Melkite Greek Catholic Church, Armenian Apostolic Church, Latin Catholic Church, Maronite Church, Syriac Catholic Church, Armenian Catholic Church, Chaldean Catholic Church, Syriac Orthodox Church . . .

From the ecumenical (Catholic) perspective documents regarding "Dialogue with the Oriental Orthodox Churches" are available at For the Coptic Church that is a rite of the Catholic Church see

Beyond a variety of Bible texts, Faithlife carries a few somewhat relevant resources which should not be assumed to be unique to the Copts:

That should get you started. Don't read books about rather than by them until you are comfortable that you have the basic outlines of the beliefs and practices. And before reading Robert A. Morey, read his credentials from Wikipedia 

MJ. Smith:

There are a number of Coptic resources available in electronic form - some in public domain, some available for free, some very inexpensively distributed. Logos might well be able to negotiate a mutually beneficial arrangement with COePA(Coptic Orthodox Electronic Publishing, Australia and St. Shenouda the Archimandrite Coptic Society.

Suggested items:

Coptic New Testament (with "apocrypha" and multilingual beyond the Sahidica)
Monneret de Villard, Les Couvents Pres de Sohag
Mingarelli, Aegyptiorum Codicum Reliquiae I Venice
Budge, Earliest Known Coptic Psalter in Dialect of Upper Egypt 
Christianity in Egypt 
Coptic Agbeyia 
O'Leary,  The Difnar (Antiphonarium of the Coptic Church,
Mikhail, N. Fundamentals of Reading ofCoptic Language
The Christian Orthodox e-Reference library (COeRL) 
History of Christianity & its Monuments in Aswan …, by N.K. Daoud
Traditional Egyptian Christianity - History of the Coptic Orthodox Church, by Rev. T. Hall Partrick

This could be a very inexpensive foray into the Eastern Church. I'd pay.

And while Logos is at it adding Agnes Smith Lewis' A Palestinian Syriac Lectionary would be a nice addition to Syriac texts.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 18 2019 6:59 PM

And a response from a beloved voice, dearly departed to remind people what is being spoken of.

Milford Charles Murray:

Peace to all!           And!                       Joy in the Lord!

              I always share that I am part of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.  *smile*

There is only one true church composed of all true believers.

I don't want to get into any theological discussions that in any way abuse the Forum Guidelines.

              But, today I want to share something that I find very beautiful.....    *smile*

MJ has given us some details about the term "catholic" in the past, e.g. this old, old post: (from her point of view)

MJ. Smith Replied: Sat, Nov 21 2009 5:08 PM

 Robert Pavich: Roman Catholic


Robert, you may already know this but may I give a technical adjustment? Yes, I know this is 'off topic' but it's interesting trivia.

Roman Catholic is short-hand for Roman Rite Catholic. The Catholic Church includes:

  1. Roman liturgical tradition
    1. Latin (Roman) Rite
    2. Mozarabic Rite
    3. Anglican use (recently expanded)
    4. Ambrosian Rite
    5. Braga Rite
    6. Dominican Rite
    7. Carthusian Rite
    8. Carmelite Rite
  2. Alexandrian liturgical tradition
    1. Coptic Catholic Church
    2. Ethiopian Catholic Church
  3. Antiochian (Antiochene or West-Syrian) liturgical tradition
    1. Maronite Church
    2. Syriac Catholic Church[
    3. Syro-Malankara Catholic Church
  4. Armenian liturgical tradition:
    1. Armenian Catholic Church
  5. Chaldean or East Syrian liturgical tradition:
    1. Chaldean Catholic Church
    2. Syro-Malabar Church
  6. Byzantine (Constantinopolitan) liturgical tradition:
    1. Albanian Greek Catholic Church
    2. Belarusian Greek Catholic Church
    3. Bulgarian Greek Catholic Church[
    4. Byzantine Church of the Eparchy of Križevci
    5. Hungarian Greek Catholic Church
    6. Italo-Albanian Catholic Church
    7. Macedonian Greek Catholic Church
    8. Melkite Greek Catholic Church
    9. Romanian Church United with Rome, Greek-Catholic
    10. Russian Catholic Church
    11. Ruthenian Catholic Church
    12. Slovak Greek Catholic Church
    13. Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church
    And yes, there are a few others but I can't find their names at the moment.

So I guess there is 'catholic' (single, early church), Catholic (American default of Roman Catholic), CATHOLIC (all the rites that somehow ultimate are in communion with the Bishop of Rome a.k.a. the Pope) and CATHOLIC (add in schismatics but not heretics)

Now I promise to sit down and shut up.Zip it!            * * * * *

         Just smiled again, MJ!  As I did the first time I read it... O.K.!               My gift!            Particularly to MJ and Damian, Brother and Sister!  *smile*  BTW   I am Lutheran! I've been to the Sistine Chapel!  What a wonderful experience!      Now, courtesy of the Vatican, you can go there too!  Right now! Be patient with yourself as you navigate this web site.  Move your mouse around.  Fantastic technology!  You can see the ceiling also, the floors, the walls, zoom in and out, listen to marvelous music on your speakers.    Wow! 

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 18 2019 7:07 PM

All look interesting 

Maybe we can finally get the Catholic Encyclopedia—which I think has been in the bidding stage for literally over ten years 😉

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Donald Antenen (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 19 2019 9:30 AM

Here's the full Verbum lineup: 

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 19 2019 11:45 AM

Donald Antenen (Faithlife):

Here's the full Verbum lineup: 

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Craig St. Clair (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 19 2019 11:51 AM

Curious.  I'm able to access the page okay, even in Private/Incognito mode.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 19 2019 12:03 PM

It's working for me, too.

(I am, however, still awaiting the addition of the Eastern Rite packages to the "Catholic Collections" menu and the "Compare Software Levels" page. I'm sure those will be updated soon.)

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 19 2019 1:10 PM

works now. I guess a glitch

Craig St. Clair (Faithlife):

Curious.  I'm able to access the page okay, even in Private/Incognito mode.

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