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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 28 2012 8:17 PM

If you're interested in architecture http://www.ldschurchtemples.com/has a slide show of LDS temples from around the world - some stunning, some less so

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 28 2012 8:23 PM

Willard Scott:

Joshua G:
I was basically standing alone.
So, then, You are the majority of which you speak?

No. I am not part of that majority.

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 28 2012 8:24 PM

MJ. Smith:

If you're interested in architecture http://www.ldschurchtemples.com/has a slide show of LDS temples from around the world - some stunning, some less so

This is cool. Thank you.

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 28 2012 8:31 PM

This one is really neat. Its like seeing double. lol

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 28 2012 8:51 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Appears reformed branch has existed for 10 years,
 Wow. If that is correct, they have made great progress in only one decade. 
MJ. Smith:
 KS4J - I innocently thought I'd throw together a short timeline of the LDS only to find it wouldn't be short - or is my source not trustworthy?: The following list of dissident groups is taken from the book Divergent Paths of Restoration

Thank you MJ. I just love it when you lay it out with so much detail. I enjoy reading of all the diversity. One of my favorite topics of Mormonism is polygamy. Big Smile Nina pretty much has her mind made up on that one. Even though I bring up all the patriarchs of the Old Testament, she still won't give in on that.

The legal and cultural issues are not limited to Mormon factions. When the United States pulled out of Vietnam the CIA evacuated a large number of Hmong  people.They practiced polygamy in their homelands and were forced by the US Immigration to choose which one wife they wanted to remain married to. Imagine breaking up two of your three families because your host country is intolerant of your beliefs. It is difficult to be on the receiving end of persecution.

 

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Willard Scott | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 28 2012 9:44 PM

George Somsel:
While that does not excuse the persecution, it does explain why it happened.  Why should we continue the bitterness today due to what happened in the past?  
So, George;

Since we can see that the Muslims' animosity can be traced back to Ishmael's disappointment, (when Abraham sent him away) Do we get over our bitterness toward them? 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 28 2012 9:52 PM

Willard Scott:
Since we can see that the Muslims' animosity can be traced back to Ishmael's disappointment, (when Abraham sent him away) Do we get over our bitterness toward them? 

Puzzling question that is not related to this discussion about Mormon Studies Collection for Logos nor related to using Logos Bible Software.  Hence question seems appropriate for discussion elsewhere.  Internet has many web sites for theological discussions.

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Willard Scott | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 28 2012 9:59 PM

You did not seem upset when George suggested we overlook the persecutions inflicted by Rome....

But you are offended when the same proposal is made about Muslims?Smile

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 28 2012 11:08 PM

This thread has several reminders about Logos forum guidelines; please focus on using Logos Bible Software, including discussions about resources would like available in Logos for research and study.

Searching my Logos library for persecution finds 79,489 results plus Topics section.  Searching for love finds 634,286 results with larger Topics section, which is a bit less than 689,541 results for faith.  A search for glory finds 264,904 results, bit more than 249,737 for hope.   Search for God finds 4,247,135 results; Christian finds 824,825 results.

Likewise searching my Logos library for Mormon found many results, including a biography in => Perseus Civil War and 19th Century American Collection (340 vols.) that has encounters in a couple chapters.

Personally have bid for http://www.logos.com/product/16021/mormon-studies-collection along with dreaming about a filter for Entire Library that can be turned on and off as desired.

Thanks to MJ's reply about Mormon church history, would like book Divergent Paths of Restoration for Logos (or Vyrso) use.

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Silent Sam | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2012 4:22 PM

Willard Scott:

George Somsel:
While that does not excuse the persecution, it does explain why it happened.  Why should we continue the bitterness today due to what happened in the past?  
So, George;

Since we can see that the Muslims' animosity can be traced back to Ishmael's disappointment, (when Abraham sent him away) Do we get over our bitterness toward them? 

                                                 Hmm HHHMMMmmm~~~ Hmm

 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2012 5:54 PM

Silent Sam:
 Hmm HHHMMMmmm~~~ Hmm

On 3 Jan 2012, another Logos user replied after one of your posts:

NewbieMick:

Sam,

actually it looks like you silently Wink help the trolls out here when you cite their posting in full. If some Logos admin deletes "Andy's" post, yours will carry the message along.

Just my 2c

Mick

Wonder about please repeating edit to remove quoted posts ? Both questions are appropriate for other forums, e.g. => http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2012 6:47 PM

 

http://community.logos.com/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/77/8838.RLDS_5F00_temple_5F00_by_5F00_jadisofeternity.jpg

This is actually the one-and-only temple of the Reorganized LDS Church, now known as the community of Christ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_Christ

In other words, not a Mormon temple.

 

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2012 7:28 PM

Ben:

 

http://community.logos.com/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/77/8838.RLDS_5F00_temple_5F00_by_5F00_jadisofeternity.jpg

This is actually the one-and-only temple of the Reorganized LDS Church, now known as the community of Christ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_Christ

In other words, not a Mormon temple.

 

I don't follow your logic here. How do you define "Mormon"?

If a person or religious organization practices the theology of Mormonism - could they not be considered Mormon? The wiki you linked cites that the Community of Christ practices Mormonism.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2012 8:01 PM

Joshua G:
If a person or religious organization practices the theology of Mormonism - could they not be considered Mormon?

Since infant baptism is a Catholic doctrine would all who practice infant baptism be called Catholic?  What I think Ben is saying is, there is enough difference between the LDS church based in Utah and the RLDS church based in Missouri 

That is why we can't go with a one-label-fits-all, shotgun approach. 

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2012 8:05 PM

"If a person or religious organization practices the theology of Mormonism"

The CoC/RLDS Temple neither practices the liturgy nor the theology. But as you know, that goes beyond the purpose of this board.

 

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Willard Scott | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2012 8:37 PM

Super Tramp:

Joshua G:
If a person or religious organization practices the theology of Mormonism - could they not be considered Mormon?

Since infant baptism is a Catholic doctrine would all who practice infant baptism be called Catholic?  What I think Ben is saying is, there is enough difference between the LDS church based in Utah and the RLDS church based in Missouri 

That is why we can't go with a one-label-fits-all, shotgun approach. 

Yeah. We need to adapt the strategy of the other organization that denies the Divinity of Christ, and upholds pedophilia. It's all in how you spell it. You have your "Large M Mormons" and your "small m mormons"

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KumBaYa !

 

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2012 8:41 PM

Willard Scott:
Yeah

Reported as abuse.  

Blanket insults are no different than bearing false witness.

I am sure not everyone named Willard in the world is a troll.

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Willard Scott | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2012 8:46 PM

Super Tramp:

Willard Scott:
Yeah

Reported as abuse.  

Blanket insults are no different than bearing false witness.

I am sure not everyone named Willard in the world is a troll.

I'm Tellin' on you !Stick out tongue

 

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2012 8:53 PM

Super Tramp:
I am sure not everyone named Willard in the world is a troll.

I also don't believe that everyone claiming to be a Willard is a Willard.  Willard Scott is the name of a (former?) weatherman who also was the first Ronald McDonald.  I think he has donned his clown nose and oversized shoes.

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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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Willard Scott | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2012 9:09 PM

George Somsel:
It must be remembered that those were harsh times.  While that does not excuse the persecution, it does explain why it happened.  Why should we continue the bitterness today due to what happened in the past?  
You are brazen enough to counsel me about bitterness?, When you posted this a few months back?

 

George Somsel:

I would remind you of the words of Benjamin Franklin: "If we do not all hang together, we shall most certainly all hang separately."  We have an enemy of Jesus Christ which is on the march in the form of Islam.  I do not say "radical Islam", but ALL Islam.  We see expurgated versions of the Koran / Quran in English (we even have one in Logos).  These have been cleaned up so as not to alarm those who speak English.  Make no mistake about it, those who follow Islam do not guide themselves by the politically correct English versions.  There was recently an article in the National Review Online (http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/260288/who-attacked-lara-logan-and-why-andrew-c-mccarthy) in which Andrew McCarthy asks "Who Attacked Lara Logan, and Why?" then answers the question he has posed.  It lies in passages such as Surah 4:23-24.  In these the offensive material has largely been toned down.  They intend to subjugate the Christian world and brutalize any who will not submit to Islam.  We have not faced such a danger since the Moors overran Spain and threatened France and also were knocking at the very doors of Vienna.  They subjected much of the previously Christian world to Islam including Northern Africa (including Egypt), Asia Minor, and what is today Syria and Iraq.  Will Europe and the United States be next?  They will if we fight amongst ourselves.

I would encourage Logos to do its own translation of the Quran in a very faithful version -- assiduously avoiding softening the harsh parts.  This would make clear to all the insidious nature of Islam.  Its prophet is a false prophet, a prophet of Satan himself, and a paedophile.  Its god is not the God of the bible but Satan himself since God would not countenance that set forth in the Quran.  Islam is interested in submission (much like the Obama regime), not in conviction.  Remember:  "He who is convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."

I don't recall Matthew reporting that rant as "Abuse."

 

 

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