Current Note Enhancements Wishlist (Collated from forums)

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Feb 27 2010 5:39 AM | Locked

apologies if you also asked tor these in a seperate post, this is a collation from searching the forums, thought it might be helpful to putt them together both for us and for the programmers as stuff can get overlooked.

  1. I need notes by reference to include a span of verse  [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
  2. TOC
  3. Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
  4. sort the notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
  5. Allow default colour to be set for a note file
  6. Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
  7. drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
  8. ability to add in images
  9. text formatting [color]
  10. text formatting [highlighting]
  11. prompt before deleting
  12. button to remove all formatting in note
  13. button to automaticaly add hyperlinks to bible reference

Am sure you will add anything I have missed

 

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 6:43 AM | Locked

This would be a great start.

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 7:19 AM | Locked
  • Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
  • Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 7:45 AM | Locked

How about exporting Notes?

To Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManager . . ..

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 8:06 AM | Locked

Dominic's list updated:

  1. I need notes by reference to include a span of verse  [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
  2. TOC
  3. Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
  4. sort the notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
  5. Allow default colour to be set for a note file
  6. Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
  7. drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
  8. ability to add in images
  9. text formatting [color]
  10. text formatting [highlighting]
  11. prompt before deleting
  12. button to remove all formatting in note
  13. button to automaticaly add hyperlinks to bible reference
  14. Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
  15. Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
  16. Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
  17. Spell checker

 

"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 8:15 AM | Locked

Paul Golder:

14. Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources

Presumably this would encompass also preserving such links when importing in from L3?

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 8:23 AM | Locked

Dominic's list updated (3rd ed.):

  1. I need notes by reference to include a span of verse  [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
  2. TOC
  3. Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
  4. sort the notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
  5. Allow default color to be set for a note file
  6. Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
  7. drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
  8. ability to add in images
  9. text formatting [color]
  10. text formatting [highlighting]
  11. prompt before deleting
  12. button to remove all formatting in note
  13. button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
  14. Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
    • Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
  15. Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
  16. Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
  17. Spell checker

 

"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 8:33 AM | Locked

Here's another biggie: printing notes

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Richard Lyall | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 9:25 AM | Locked

Kevin Becker:

  • Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources

This is already possible ... I have notes hyperlinks that open Word documents, for example.

Do you mean links to L4 documents or external documents?

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Richard Lyall | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 9:34 AM | Locked

Another previous request was:

For a dual-pane view - headers in the left panel and contents in the right.

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 12:41 PM | Locked

Dominic's list updated (4th ed.):

  1. Notes by reference to include a span of verse  [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
  2. Table of contents
  3. Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
  4. Sortable notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
  5. Allow default color to be set for a note file
  6. Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
  7. Ability to drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
  8. Ability to add in images
  9. Text formatting [color]
  10. Text formatting [highlighting]
  11. Conformation prompt before deleting
  12. Button to remove all formatting in note
  13. Button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
  14. Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
    • Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
  15. Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
  16. Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
  17. Spell checker
  18. Printing of notes
  19. A dual-pane view - headers in the left panel and contents in the right.

 

"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 12:49 PM | Locked

Richard Lyall:

This is already possible ... I have notes hyperlinks that open Word documents, for example.

Do you mean links to L4 documents or external documents?

I meant the ability (without leaving the Note document) to embed a word with a link using the libronixdls protocol to open a book in my library to a specific point. Right now I have to create a link in Word and then past it into a note file.

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Tim Hensler | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 4:12 PM | Locked

A few more thoughts for notes:

  • Add the Underline button to go with the Bold and Italic buttons on the formatting toolbar.
  • Include indenting on the Table of Contents to indicate outline hierarchy (like L3) with twisties to expand or compress the list sections like the TOC on resources.
  • include the color selected for the note in the Table of Contents (like L3).
  • Choice of including notes when exporting or printing a Bible passage with a note attached (or for that matter, notes attached to any resource).
    • Option to embed notes in output (indented right after the verse/text the note is attached to) or as a footnote at the bottom of the output.
  • Choice of including the Bible text (preferred Bible) when exporting or printing a note attached to a Bible passage (or for that matter, whatever text the note is attached to from any resource).
    • Same option to embed or footnote associated text with notes output.

Thank you team for building the list - neat to see all the ideas that can make this a powerful tool.  I love it!

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 4:37 PM | Locked

I have not been able to get underlining to work in notes, am I missing something?

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James Hudson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 5:08 PM | Locked

A few more I'd like to see

  • Preserve formatting when cut/copy/paste
  • hyperlinks between notes
  • basic formating (bullets / variety of number formats for lists)
  • Markers (little symbols similar to emoticons)
  • Ability to make notes / comments on notes
  • "scribble tool"
  • attachments (any file) to notes (e.g. mp3 of a related sermon / powerpoint for sermon / openoffice doc etc)
  • Import / Export of (X)HTML
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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 6:30 PM | Locked

Whyndell Grizzard:
I have not been able to get underlining to work in notes, am I missing something?

Highlight text and hit ctrl+U

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 27 2010 8:48 PM | Locked

Dominic's list updated (5th ed.):

  1. Notes by reference to include a span of verse  [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
  2. Table of contents
  3. Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
  4. Sortable notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
  5. Allow default color to be set for a note file
  6. Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
  7. Ability to drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
  8. Ability to add in images
  9. Text formatting [color]
  10. Text formatting [highlighting]
  11. Conformation prompt before deleting
  12. Button to remove all formatting in note
  13. Button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
  14. Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
    • Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
  15. Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
  16. Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
  17. Spell checker
  18. Printing of notes
  19. A dual-pane view - headers in the left panel and contents in the right.
  20. Add the Underline button to go with the Bold and Italic buttons on the formatting toolbar.
  21. Include indenting on the Table of Contents to indicate outline hierarchy (like L3) with twisties to expand or compress the list sections like the TOC on resources.
  22. include the color selected for the note in the Table of Contents (like L3).
  23. Choice of including notes when exporting or printing a Bible passage with a note attached (or for that matter, notes attached to any resource).
    • Option to embed notes in output (indented right after the verse/text the note is attached to) or as a footnote at the bottom of the output.
  24. Choice of including the Bible text (preferred Bible) when exporting or printing a note attached to a Bible passage (or for that matter, whatever text the note is attached to from any resource).
    • Same option to embed or footnote associated text with notes output.
  25. Preserve formatting when cut/copy/paste
  26. hyperlinks between notes
  27. basic formatting (bullets / variety of number formats for lists)
  28. Markers (little symbols similar to emoticons)
  29. Ability to make notes / comments on notes
  30. "scribble tool"
  31. attachments (any file) to notes (e.g. mp3 of a related sermon / PowerPoint for sermon / Openoffice doc etc)
  32. Import / Export of (X)HTML

 

"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 28 2010 12:13 AM | Locked

29 seems pointless - just add your note to main note body at end of text..
31 is a repeat on 14

27 is alread in Beta12 with ecxeption of Underline and multiple list formats, bullet and numbered are included

30 cant see that happening, would need another layer on the UI, and there are better progs out there that already do it..

Paul thanks for re-collating new requests, are you able to delete the old list revisions?  it might help reducing duplicate requests

 

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James Hudson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 28 2010 3:33 AM | Locked

>> 29 seems pointless - just add your note to main note body at end of text..

Not pointless - depends on how you use notes. If I copy and paste a bible verse/range into notes I would like notes already made on that ref to 'pop-up'.

I'd also prefer if i'd referenced a Gk or Heb word to write a pop-up note reminding me of it's definition/morphology/other places used in text without that disrupting the flow of my reading the note unless I wanted to drill further down

 

>> 31 is a repeat on 14

yes agreed - as long as the hyperlinks are to local files

 

>> 27 is alread in Beta12 with ecxeption of Underline and multiple list formats, bullet and numbered are included

Cool! Haven't got beta installed - would still think multi-list formats is a useful addition though

>>30 cant see that happening, would need another layer on the U

Isn't that the point of this thread to give ideas for improving notes! Truthfully I can't seed it happening either, but that doesn't invalidate it as a request!

I'm not sure it would need "another layer" - the functionality is built-in with the drawing mode (it's actually not all that difficult to program - the first proper Win32 program I wrote in C before any frameworks was a scribble program - I think the technical difficultly would be including it in the file format when saving - as an image??)

>>there are better progs out there that already do it..

Careful, this seems to be Bob's argument about not enhancing notes at all. Frankly there are better progs out there for ALL of the features in this thread. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be included as a 'wish list' The whole point is to try and integrate some of the 'best practise' "out there" into Logos - so it doesn't require users to need multiple programs for their Bible study

>>Paul thanks for re-collating new requests

Agreed - very useful thanks Paul!

>>are you able to delete the old list revisions?  it might help reducing duplicate requests

Agreed that would be useful - not sure it is possible though.

 

Thanks for taking the time to listen to my responses to your comments. Big Smile

I appreciate the creation of this thread as notes are by far the worst feature of Logos 4 currently preventing it be an all-in-one bible study resource.

 

Every blessing,

James

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 28 2010 4:27 AM | Locked

JamesHudson:

>>are you able to delete the old list revisions?  it might help reducing duplicate requests

Agreed that would be useful - not sure it is possible though.

If it's too late to delete an old post (you only have a small window of opportunity to do that), you've still got 18 hours from the time it was posted to edit it. So one could edit one's post, remove all the text of the list, and just leave a line saying "superseded; removed by author" or something to that effect.

To delete or edit a post, click on the More menu to the right of it, and choose Delete or Edit (if available). Obviously, you can only delete or edit your own posts.

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