Current Note Enhancements Wishlist (Collated from forums)

• Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
• Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes

Dominic's list updated:

1. I need notes by reference to include a span of verse  [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
2. TOC
3. Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
4. sort the notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
5. Allow default colour to be set for a note file
6. Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
7. drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
8. ability to add in images
9. text formatting [color]
10. text formatting [highlighting]
11. prompt before deleting
12. button to remove all formatting in note
13. button to automaticaly add hyperlinks to bible reference
14. Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
15. Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
16. Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
17. Spell checker

Dominic's list updated (3rd ed.):

1. I need notes by reference to include a span of verse  [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
2. TOC
3. Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
4. sort the notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
5. Allow default color to be set for a note file
6. Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
7. drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
8. ability to add in images
9. text formatting [color]
10. text formatting [highlighting]
11. prompt before deleting
12. button to remove all formatting in note
13. button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
14. Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
    • Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
15. Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
16. Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
17. Spell checker

Kevin Becker said:

• Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources

This is already possible ... I have notes hyperlinks that open Word documents, for example.

Do you mean links to L4 documents or external documents?

Dominic's list updated (4th ed.):

1. Notes by reference to include a span of verse  [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
2. Table of contents
3. Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
4. Sortable notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
5. Allow default color to be set for a note file
6. Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
7. Ability to drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
8. Ability to add in images
9. Text formatting [color]
10. Text formatting [highlighting]
11. Conformation prompt before deleting
12. Button to remove all formatting in note
13. Button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
14. Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
    • Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
15. Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
16. Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
17. Spell checker
18. Printing of notes
19. A dual-pane view - headers in the left panel and contents in the right.

A few more thoughts for notes:

• Add the Underline button to go with the Bold and Italic buttons on the formatting toolbar.
• Include indenting on the Table of Contents to indicate outline hierarchy (like L3) with twisties to expand or compress the list sections like the TOC on resources.
• include the color selected for the note in the Table of Contents (like L3).
• Choice of including notes when exporting or printing a Bible passage with a note attached (or for that matter, notes attached to any resource).
  • Option to embed notes in output (indented right after the verse/text the note is attached to) or as a footnote at the bottom of the output.
• Choice of including the Bible text (preferred Bible) when exporting or printing a note attached to a Bible passage (or for that matter, whatever text the note is attached to from any resource).
  • Same option to embed or footnote associated text with notes output.

Thank you team for building the list - neat to see all the ideas that can make this a powerful tool.  I love it!

A few more I'd like to see

• Preserve formatting when cut/copy/paste
• hyperlinks between notes
• basic formating (bullets / variety of number formats for lists)
• Markers (little symbols similar to emoticons)
• Ability to make notes / comments on notes
• "scribble tool"
• attachments (any file) to notes (e.g. mp3 of a related sermon / powerpoint for sermon / openoffice doc etc)
• Import / Export of (X)HTML

Dominic's list updated (5th ed.):

1. Notes by reference to include a span of verse  [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
2. Table of contents
3. Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
4. Sortable notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
5. Allow default color to be set for a note file
6. Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
7. Ability to drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
8. Ability to add in images
9. Text formatting [color]
10. Text formatting [highlighting]
11. Conformation prompt before deleting
12. Button to remove all formatting in note
13. Button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
14. Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
    • Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
15. Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
16. Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
17. Spell checker
18. Printing of notes
19. A dual-pane view - headers in the left panel and contents in the right.
20. Add the Underline
    button to go with the Bold and Italic buttons on the formatting toolbar.
21. Include indenting on the Table of Contents to indicate outline
    hierarchy (like L3) with twisties to expand or compress the list
    sections like the TOC on resources.
22. include the color selected for the note in the Table of Contents
    (like L3).
23. Choice of including notes when exporting or printing a Bible passage
    with a note attached (or for that matter, notes attached to any
    resource).
    • Option to embed notes in output (indented right after the verse/text
      the note is attached to) or as a footnote at the bottom of the output.
24. Choice of including the Bible text (preferred Bible) when exporting
    or printing a note attached to a Bible passage (or for that matter,
    whatever text the note is attached to from any resource).
    • Same option to embed or footnote associated text with notes output.
25. Preserve formatting when cut/copy/paste
26. hyperlinks between notes
27. basic formatting (bullets / variety of number formats for lists)
28. Markers (little symbols similar to emoticons)
29. Ability to make notes / comments on notes
30. "scribble tool"
31. attachments (any file) to notes (e.g. mp3 of a related sermon / PowerPoint for sermon / Openoffice doc etc)
32. Import / Export of (X)HTML

>> 29 seems pointless - just add your note to main note body at end of
text..

Not pointless - depends on how you use notes. If I copy and paste a bible verse/range into notes I would like notes already made on that ref to 'pop-up'.

I'd also prefer if i'd referenced a Gk or Heb word to write a pop-up note reminding me of it's definition/morphology/other places used in text without that disrupting the flow of my reading the note unless I wanted to drill further down

>> 31 is a repeat on 14

yes agreed - as long as the hyperlinks are to local files

>> 27 is alread in Beta12 with ecxeption of Underline and multiple list
formats, bullet and numbered are included

Cool! Haven't got beta installed - would still think multi-list formats is a useful addition though

>>30 cant see that happening, would need another layer on the U

Isn't that the point of this thread to give ideas for improving notes! Truthfully I can't seed it happening either, but that doesn't invalidate it as a request!

I'm not sure it would need "another layer" - the functionality is built-in with the drawing mode (it's actually not all that difficult to program - the first proper Win32 program I wrote in C before any frameworks was a scribble program - I think the technical difficultly would be including it in the file format when saving - as an image??)

>>there are better progs out there that already do it..

Careful, this seems to be Bob's argument about not enhancing notes at all. Frankly there are better progs out there for ALL of the features in this thread. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be included as a 'wish list' The whole point is to try and integrate some of the 'best practise' "out there" into Logos - so it doesn't require users to need multiple programs for their Bible study

>>Paul thanks for re-collating new requests

Agreed - very useful thanks Paul!

>>are you able to delete the old list revisions?  it might help reducing
duplicate requests

Agreed that would be useful - not sure it is possible though.

Thanks for taking the time to listen to my responses to your comments. [:D]

I appreciate the creation of this thread as notes are by far the worst feature of Logos 4 currently preventing it be an all-in-one bible study resource.

Every blessing,

James

DominicM said:

31 is a repeat on 14

There's a big difference between saying, "Go over there and look at this, here's the link." and "here it is!" 

Of course I view hyperlinks as links to anywhere and attachments as one step closer to embedding.  To which I would add my desire to embed such items.  :-)  Up the ante.

When attaching a note to a word (or phrase) in any Bible with a lemma layer (Greek, Hebrew, Interlinear, Reverse Interlinear), attach the note to the lemma of that word (or first word of a phrase) so the note is available in the same verse and word in other Bibles that also have the lemma layer.

Dominic's list updated (6th ed.):

1. Notes by reference to include a span of verse  [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
2. Table of contents
3. Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
4. Sortable notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
5. Allow default color to be set for a note file
6. Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
7. Ability to drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
8. Ability to add in images
9. Text formatting [color]
10. Text formatting [highlighting]
11. Conformation prompt before deleting
12. Button to remove all formatting in note
13. Button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
14. Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources within L4, as well as attach and/or embed files (any file) to notes (e.g. mp3 of a related sermon / PowerPoint for
    sermon / Openoffice doc etc)
    • Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
15. Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
16. Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
17. Spell checker
18. Printing of notes
19. A dual-pane view - headers in the left panel and contents in the right.
20. Add the Underline
    button to go with the Bold and Italic buttons on the formatting toolbar.
21. Include indenting on the Table of Contents to indicate outline
    hierarchy (like L3) with twisties to expand or compress the list
    sections like the TOC on resources.
22. include the color selected for the note in the Table of Contents
    (like L3).
23. Choice of including notes when exporting or printing a Bible passage
    with a note attached (or for that matter, notes attached to any
    resource).
    • Option to embed notes in output (indented right after the verse/text
      the note is attached to) or as a footnote at the bottom of the output.
24. Choice of including the Bible text (preferred Bible) when exporting
    or printing a note attached to a Bible passage (or for that matter,
    whatever text the note is attached to from any resource).
    • Same option to embed or footnote associated text with notes output.
25. Preserve formatting when cut/copy/paste
26. hyperlinks between notes
27. basic formatting, bullets / variety of number formats for lists [partially addressed in Beta12]
28. Markers (little symbols similar to emoticons)
29. Ability to make notes / comments on notes
    • Collapsible footnotes, that "pop-up" when hovered over would work great for this
30. "scribble tool"
31. Import / Export of (X)HTML
32. When attaching a note to a word (or phrase) in any Bible with a lemma
    layer (Greek, Hebrew, Interlinear, Reverse Interlinear), attach the note
    to the lemma of that word (or first word of a phrase) so the note is
    available in the same verse and word in other Bibles that also have the
    lemma layer.

1. Notes by reference to include a span of verse  [Believed Fixed in
   Beta 12]
2. Table of contents
3. Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
4. Sortable notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
5. Allow default color to be set for a note file
6. Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
7. Ability to drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note
   window to add a note
8. Ability to add in images
9. Text formatting [color]
10. Text formatting [highlighting]
11. Conformation prompt before deleting
12. Button to remove all formatting in note
13. Button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
14. Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources within L4, as well as
    attach and/or embed files (any file) to notes (e.g. mp3 of a related
    sermon / PowerPoint for
    sermon / Openoffice doc etc)
    • Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
15. Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make
    tables in notes
16. Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
17. Spell checker
18. Printing of notes
19. A dual-pane view - headers in the left panel and contents in the
    right.
20. Add the Underline
    button to go with the Bold and Italic buttons on the formatting toolbar.
21. Include indenting on the Table of Contents to indicate outline
    hierarchy (like L3) with twisties to expand or compress the list
    sections like the TOC on resources.
22. include the color selected for the note in the Table of Contents
    (like L3).
23. Choice of including notes when exporting or printing a Bible passage
    with a note attached (or for that matter, notes attached to any
    resource).
    • Option to embed notes in output (indented right after the verse/text
      the note is attached to) or as a footnote at the bottom of the output.
24. Choice of including the Bible text (preferred Bible) when exporting
    or printing a note attached to a Bible passage (or for that matter,
    whatever text the note is attached to from any resource).
    • Same option to embed or footnote associated text with notes output.
25. Preserve formatting when cut/copy/paste
26. hyperlinks between notes
27. basic formatting, bullets / variety of number formats for lists
    [partially addressed in Beta12]
28. Markers (little symbols similar to emoticons)
29. Ability to make notes / comments on notes
    • Collapsible footnotes, that "pop-up" when hovered over would work
      great for this
30. "scribble tool"
31. Import / Export of (X)HTML
32. When attaching a note to a word (or phrase) in any Bible with a
    lemma
    layer (Greek, Hebrew, Interlinear, Reverse Interlinear), attach the note
    to the lemma of that word (or first word of a phrase) so the note is
    available in the same verse and word in other Bibles that also have the
    lemma layer.
33. Large fries and a coke

I think a good place to keep this list would be http://wiki.logos.com/Feature_Wishlist . I would recommend starting a new section just for notes, then filter any duplicates out of the other list.

Darren Paul Wright said:

I think a good place to keep this list would be http://wiki.logos.com/Feature_Wishlist .

Why not use logos.uservoice.com instead, then we can see how the user base as a whole feels about these.

DominicM said:

if you want to - be my guest - but is it "officially endorsed"? cos if its not its almost meaningless

Yes, it is "officially endorsed" -- it was announced here on the forum by Bob Pritchett himself. It's experimental so far, but they'll definitely be paying attention to it:

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/12621.aspx