Logos' Notes Are Counter-Intuitive - QUOTES/Highlights - Please Reconsider...

I know this has been discussed at length, but I'm frustrated and want to express my thoughts about highlighting. The truncated way Logos developers have chosen to implement highlighting leaves me with incomplete and nearly unusable information. When I highlight, Logos will put into the note file the first three words, an ellipses, then the last three words. I frequently desire to review all the highlights of a book, print, copy, or export to Evernote through copy and paste. They get tagged in my own database for sermons or lessons that are upcoming. This is not available because of the counter-intuitive, truncated highlights in the note files.

There has been a step forward with the "QUOTES" tab. (See screen shot)

The problem still exists IF I print...you only get the first 3 words, an ellipses, then the last three words. I cannot even copy and paste. (This has been discussed here https://community.logos.com/forums/t/94348.aspx and Bradley mentions this is a BUG with no response on implementation.) But, I want to address the truncated highlights to begin with. Even in the documents.logos.com site, these highlights are truncated. (See screenshot)

It would be so easy to use webclipper for evernote to move these to a notebook in Evernote through this site if they were not truncated. Logos, would you please reconsider your implementation of notes and highlights to include to entire text or at least allow us to intuitively use the Quotes tab to copy/paste and print?

Let me address that I know that Clippings is different from Notes and Clippings will allow to a small extent this to work. However, with thousands of highlights already made over the years since Libronix, this is not an option to change everything over to clippings. Is there any hope that this will change?

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Dylan Rondeau

The problem still exists IF I print...you only get the first 3 words, an ellipses, then the last three words. I cannot even copy and paste. (This has been discussed here https://community.logos.com/forums/t/94348.aspx and Bradley mentions this is a BUG with no response on implementation.) But, I want to address the truncated highlights to begin with. Even in the documents.logos.com site, these highlights are truncated. (See screenshot)

John, I checked on the bug tracking case for fixing Print/Export for Quote view in Notes, and it is still active. There was some discussion that had to be ironed out on the implementation, which has accounted for the delay since Bradley's post. I don't have an estimate yet on when it will be implemented, but we haven't lost track of it. Sorry for the inconvenience until this is changed. [:(]

MJ. Smith

A quick clarification re: Bradley saying it was a bug ... I think he says it is an unimplemented feature. It matters only in the sense of affecting the priority of the report.

the new "Quotes" feature in L6 which shows the entire content of the note

Nitpick: the "Quotes" feature shows the text that was highlighted in the resource. (The "note" is the text you add, which isn't shown at all in Quotes view.)

One might consider this a bug or defect with the Quotes view, that it can't be printed.

It's an unimplemented feature; I'll file a bug report.

mwk

Just hit this today trying to export my highlights.

Bradley says it's an "unimplemented feature" which I find disappointing, maddening, bewildering, frustrating and any other similar word one might choose only because it was an "implemented feature" in the prior version of Logos.

I'm slightly confused if this isn't implemented now because of a technical hurdle, or because of an internal discussion of whether we should even be allowed to export full highlights.

If it's technical, what changed between Logos 5 and 6 that allows us to export content some content as John mentioned, but not full highlights?

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692143#Comment_692143

it was an "implemented feature" in the prior version of Logos.

Could you clarify what was an "implemented feature" previously? There isnt anything I am aware of in this thread that was "implemented" previously. The quotes view is new to L6. Highlighting notes in L5 have always truncated the quote in the "subject" line of the note. The mobile app (at least on iOS) had a "bug" which caused the full quote to be shown in the "subject" line.

mwk

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692160#Comment_692160

Unfortunately, with L5 replaced by L6, I can't go back and give a step-by-step of what I had done or how the options were labeled.

In L5, I read about 10 Logos books on a particular topic. As I read through the books, my highlighted text was put into a Note that I created to be the hub for all these highlights from the different books. When I was done, I exported what was probably two hundred highlights (in full) to a Word doc and then transferred over to Evernote to arrange as a starting point and reminders for lessons I was teaching.

At the time, I couldn't figure out how to export it on my own, but it was a question raised at Camp Logos and we were told how to do it. Otherwise, there's no way I could have moved hundreds of highlights from Logos to Evernote without manually typing all of them.

For Bible study software like this, if Logos allows the ability to put highlights into a Note, they can't be shocked by the idea that people would want to export and use those highlights, not just use them to click to where those highlights were created.

You can't say it's a protection mechanism to prevent someone from highlighting a whole book and then copying it to another place. Because, to a small degree, that's what I was doing as I saw your post. I'm having to open the book I just read in Logos, move to each highlight, then copy/paste it out of the Logos book and paste it into Evernote. I get the same result as I had in L5, just takes more time and is less efficient.

If exporting full highlights was ever considered a "bug" prior to now, that's rather sad in my opinion. I'm not clear what the rationale behind preventing full export of highlights would be.

But if that's the way they look at it, it's back to Amazon when a book is available there. While I know some books there seem to have an upper limit of the amount of highlights you can make, I've yet to hit it with Amazon. For me, at least, it makes Logos less of a complete go-to source and one I would not invest more money in unless there's a resource that's only available through Logos.

Based on what you're saying about a "bug" in allowing you to do it previously, and what Dylan is saying about fixing a bug so you can export, I'm not clear now whether this is something that will be implemented or not in the near future. If not, as I mentioned, I'd sure be curious as to why.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692173#Comment_692173

If exporting full highlights was ever considered a "bug" prior to now, that's rather sad in my opinion.

I don't know anyone who said that "exporting full highlights" was a bug. What I said is that 1) there was NOT a "quote" view in L5 and 2) the only place in L5 to see "quotes" in the notes document was the subject line of the note. The subject line was never intended to be a means to view highlighted text, let alone to export it. AFAIK, L5 always truncated quotes with an ellipsis. If it didnt always do so, it has been a very long time since the behavior was otherwise (~ 18 months or more?) If you have any notes with the full quote in the subject line, it was likely because you used the mobile app to create the highlight OR you pasted the quote into the subject line. Did you use the mobile app?

But if that's the way they look at it, it's back to Amazon when a book is available there. While I know some books there seem to have an upper limit of the amount of highlights you can make, I've yet to hit it with Amazon.

There is no limit in Logos to how many highlights you can make. There is a limit to how much you can cut and paste within Kindle.

mwk

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692180#Comment_692180

I was putting together my highlights through the first half of 2014. So whatever was allowing me to grab full highlights was in effect then. To be honest, I read so much through different platforms, I couldn't tell you with 100% certainty which platform I used to read each book. My guess is most of it was mobile. I did not paste anything into a subject line. I'm way too lazy to want to do something like that, especially hundreds of times.

As far as Kindle, I wasn't referring to a copy/paste, just the highlighting limits within books bought through Amazon. Certain publishers did set a limit on the number of highlights you could create in books you bought through Amazon. I once got a warning for one book that I was getting close, but I never reached it. In fact, I made quite a lot of highlights after that point and still never hit it. This was a real problem for some people on the Amazon forums at one point because it was affecting them.

I couldn't say for sure if those limits still exist today because I only hit it once about a year or two ago, but I know it did exist for some books in the past which caused an uproar.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692186#Comment_692186

What is being lost in this discussion is that users have been using Notes to achieve what Logos intended to be done in Clippings. Most likely, this was done because Clipping does not highlight the text clipped while the users wanted it highlighted.

IIRC, L4-L6 Notes never displayed the full highlighted text once it reached a particular (but unknown) length.which is why I went the clippings route. As I rarely export the notes, I don't recall that portion of their behavior.

The question at this point is, given the expansion of types of notes in L6, should the note and clipping functions be combined if a convenient workflow can be designed. If not, should the highlighting function be added to clippings as has been suggested several times?

The second question is are there a sufficient number of users who used Notes as it the title was a clipping to necessitate Faithlife writing a conversion routine?

John Fugh, Jr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692194#Comment_692194

What is being lost in this discussion is that users have been using Notes to achieve what Logos intended to be done in Clippings. Most likely, this was done because Clipping does not highlight the text clipped while the users wanted it highlighted.

Yes. The reasons that I don't use clippings are highlighting the text and shortcuts.

As the OP, here's my bottom line: Is there any intention from logos to reconsider the truncated highlights in the notes? I guess if I knew what was their plan, it would help me know whether Logos is going to be a "reading" and "studying/research" application or just a "studying/research" application. With VYRSO and the 10,000's books released on VYRSO, it seems that they would want to be both.

The second question is are there a sufficient number of users who used Notes as it the title was a clipping to necessitate Faithlife writing a conversion routine?

This would certainly help those of us who for years used highlights. However, there would need to be two corrections with clippings IMO: (1) the ability to highlight the text with shortcuts and (2) the ability to format how the information is displayed (sort of like the copy bible verses allows you to format how the information is outputted).

Greg

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692194#Comment_692194

Just as a average Logos user who tends to use the iOS app more then the desktop app, I find the highlighting to be counter-intuitive for the reasons talked about here. There is no easy way to review them.

Clippings sounds great, but why are they not on the mobile app?

Ken

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692215#Comment_692215

If it is just Bible verses you can do this.

1. Open your Highlighter note file and select the Quotes view.

2. Click on the book or ribbon (not sure which it is) icon on the top left to open the menu you use to print/export

3. Click on "Save as Passage List."

4. In the new window which opens click on the book or ribbon icon again in the top left of the window and click on the print/export option.

John Fugh, Jr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692231#Comment_692231

3. Click on "Save as Passage List."

Thank you, Ken, but when I click on "Save as Passage List, the new window that opens is empty. For example, if I take the note file used in my original post from Haddon Robinson, when I get to step three, there is nothing in the new passage list. I always thought that "passage list" was for Scripture passages and not highlights from a book.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692252#Comment_692252

I always thought that "passage list" was for Scripture passages and not highlights from a book.

It is. Ken said if you were highlighting only bible verses.

John Fugh, Jr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692262#Comment_692262

I always thought that "passage list" was for Scripture passages and not highlights from a book.

It is. Ken said if you were highlighting only bible verses.

::BLUSH::

I got so excited at the possibility that I missed the fine print...

Maurice Blackwood

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692263#Comment_692263

I would like to join in the request to allow exports of highlighted text. While studying, the flexibility provides great value. I agree with John and others that this should be designed into the system...

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692263#Comment_692263

I got so excited at the possibility that I missed the fine print...

I do that too. Selective hearing. [:)]

Kevin Todhunter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692776#Comment_692776

In Logos 6 I can click on the Clippings icon, select Print/Export and send all of the clippings in the clippings file (from various books and commentaries) to an RTF file. The option to export to a new Microsoft Word doc fails with an error about COUNT, but at least I can get the full text of all these clippings into Word in almost one step.

Anne H

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/692771#Comment_692771

I would like to join in the request to allow exports of highlighted text. While studying, the flexibility provides great value. I agree with John and others that this should be designed into the system...

Today was the first time that I actually tried to print the highlights from a theology text for one of my classes to study. As I use my iPad to read the book on my logos app, it was very problematic to find out today that I cannot simply print out my highlights from the note file. I can see them in full in a note file with the "quotes" view but cannot get them to print out in full. The only way I could get a printout was to use clippings and individually add the highlights to a clippings file, then export to word. Each clipping has the bibliographic information which made the printout twice the length.

It would be extremely beneficial if this could be addressed.

Thank You![:)]

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/693723#Comment_693723

Okay, guys & gals ... who's game to try this

Open the resource you highlighted
Do an inline search for the highlighting
Adjust the unit size (verse, paragraph, pericope) to you best fit
Under the resource menu select Print/Export

This ought to come quite close to what you want.

Anne H

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/693724#Comment_693724

Okay, guys & gals ... who's game to try this

Open the resource you highlighted

Do an inline search for the highlighting

Adjust the unit size (verse, paragraph, pericope) to you best fit

Under the resource menu select Print/Export

This ought to come quite close to what you want.

Ok. I will try it as soon as I restart. Logos just froze on me. Thank You.!

Anne H

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/693741#Comment_693741

Okay, guys & gals ... who's game to try this

Open the resource you highlighted

Do an inline search for the highlighting

Adjust the unit size (verse, paragraph, pericope) to you best fit

Under the resource menu select Print/Export

This ought to come quite close to what you want.

Ok. I will try it as soon as I restart. Logos just froze on me. Thank You.!

This did work better than using clippings for multiple highlights! It did not retain the highlights though if I simply exported the material to a Word file, even using RTF. Ultimately I printed out the pages and got the full text of the page including the wanted highlights. Perhaps I am too much of a novice with the software, though, and someone else will have the skills to make it print highlights only.

Thank you MJ for your help! [:)]

John Fugh, Jr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/693724#Comment_693724

Okay, guys & gals ... who's game to try this

Open the resource you highlighted

Do an inline search for the highlighting

Adjust the unit size (verse, paragraph, pericope) to you best fit

Under the resource menu select Print/Export

This ought to come quite close to what you want.

MJ - Thank you. I have a question. I asked it to search the specific highlight (solid color) and then, what do I put in the "Find" box if I want all of the results. I am not using a Bible, but any other resource from logos or vyrso.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/693767#Comment_693767

I believe that a PDF preserves the highlighting.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/693841#Comment_693841

MJ - Thank you. I have a question. I asked it to search the specific highlight (solid color) and then, what do I put in the "Find" box if I want all of the results. I am not using a Bible, but any other resource from logos or vyrso.

I would suspect that a wildcard (asterisk) would work.

Rayner

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/693852#Comment_693852

To anybody still watching this thread, I have requested a fix for the issue here:

https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6/suggestions/7084142-amend-fix-the-highlighting-functionality-which-c

I'd appreciate any spare votes that you might have so that it can be brought to the attention of the development team.

John Fugh, Jr.

It's been 8 months since I first asked this. Although I am not the only one who has raised this, the limitations are frustrating. Even if truncating the highlights is never addressed, it seems that the printing of the complete or selected highlights from the QUOTES section a possibility since the complete highlighted text is displayed in this section. We cannot even highlight the text and copy it.

Additionally, the differentiation of the highlight style (blue, red, etc) would be very helpful if it was included in the QUOTE section through either an icon, grouping, or filtering.

Within this thread there is a reference to logos saying this this was in the "bug system" on their end.

mwk

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/757535#Comment_757535

I've had an e-mail thread with Logos on this. Originally, a couple of months ago, they said it would be fixed in 6.5. It wasn't. When I wrote back I got this:

"6.5 was where exporting quotes view was scheduled, but circumstances interfered and that team missed the cut-off date. Looking at the code repository, I can see that coding on the feature is now finished and checked in, and is in testing now for release with 6.6."

We'll see.

John Fugh, Jr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/757746#Comment_757746

It seems that printing was enabled for 6.6 Beta 2 6.6.0.0024. Thank you. May I suggest that we have a notation of which highlight we used at the beginning of the highlight? For instance, if it was yellow, maybe a yellow square to the right of the title?

Zak Metz

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/693724#Comment_693724

How do you do an inline search for highlighting?

Doc B

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/763781#Comment_763781

How do you do an inline search for highlighting?

Open the inline search tool (A). Click on the search category (B), and select the highlight style(s) you want to search for (C). Put a wildcard in the search box (*).

Rick Ausdahl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/763801#Comment_763801

How do you do an inline search for highlighting?

Open the inline search tool (A). Click on the search category (B), and select the highlight style(s) you want to search for (C). Put a wildcard in the search box (*).

This doesn't work for me. After I hit enter (or click on the right-pointing arrow), the search just cycles and cycles and cycles--never brings up any search results. Interestingly however, the notes document that all my highlights are going into (in this case a document titled "The Epistle to the Romans", using the new Logos document title default) is not included as a search location option, although some of the old documents that I created custom highlights for (e.g. Daniel, Romans) are included.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/763815#Comment_763815

Did you put a wild card in the search box?

Did you have the appropriate visual filter on?

What version are you running? (See Help -->About Logos --> upper left quarter

Zak Metz

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/763854#Comment_763854

I'm getting the same result as Rick...spinning spinning spinning. I have "Basic" search, then "Search grace for" and "*" in the search box...

Oh my gosh, it actually did finish just now. Rick, it may take a few minutes!

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/763801#Comment_763801

Put a wildcard in the search box (*).

This will take a very long time to run.

It will be much faster if you search for the specific highlighting style, e.g.,

{Highlight Color Box Blue}

(or whatever your highlight style is named; see https://wiki.logos.com/Search_HELP#Highlighting_Styles for more help.)

(We have a case in our bug tracker to optimise "*" searches to be as fast as {Highlight} searches, but they're currently treated differently by the system.)

Maurice Blackwood

John, did you ever find a good solution to this. I am attempting to highlight a non-biblical book purchased from Vyrso. I have highlighted my passages, but I am unable to get a single view of my highlights so that I can print them for studying. Have you found a way around this?

Whyndell Grizzard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788605#Comment_788605

Man don't even get me started on the notes and highlighting problems- the two should never have been intertwined- without a way to separate them for user preference.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788643#Comment_788643

Man don't even get me started on the notes and highlighting problems- the two should never have been intertwined- without a way to separate them for user preference.

Actually Wendell, this is exactly why you DO want highlights and notes "intertwined." If highlights were merely highlights, it wouldn't be possible to have a quotes view. If you wanted to "look at all of your highlights," you would do what has always been done... flip through the book. [;)]

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788605#Comment_788605

John, did you ever find a good solution to this. I am attempting to highlight a non-biblical book purchased from Vyrso. I have highlighted my passages, but I am unable to get a single view of my highlights so that I can print them for studying. Have you found a way around this?

Are you needing to print the quotes (i.e. the text you have highlighted) WITH the actual highlighting applied? Or are you simply needing to print the quotes? If the later, do the following:

Open the note document in question*
Change the "view" to "quotes"
Go to "print/export"
Voila!

Well, Voila might be a stretch. If you make highlights in what I call "the right way," it is that simple. (This is one of the things Wendell doesnt like... and I agree). The DEFAULT behavior for highlight note documents is for the highlight notes to go into a palette specific note document. In what you are trying to do, this presents two problems:

The note document will have ALL the books you have ever highlighted with that pallet, not just the one you are currently studying from.
The book you are studying from will have notes in MULTIPLE documents IF you used multiple pallets.

That is, of course, ridiculous. If you want to highlight "the right way," you need to change the behavior to "resource specific" so that instead of highlight notes going into a document named for the pallet, it will go into a document named for the resource/book.

Whyndell Grizzard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788646#Comment_788646

Man don't even get me started on the notes and highlighting problems- the two should never have been intertwined- without a way to separate them for user preference.

Actually Wendell, this is exactly why you DO want highlights and notes "intertwined." If highlights were merely highlights, it wouldn't be possible to have a quotes view. If you wanted to "look at all of your highlights," you would do what has always been done... flip through the book.

yes but now you cannot have highlights as purely highlighting- i am having to create pallets for every book I’m studying to avoid issues- but there is so much clutter in the documents section and the notes drop down- so as far as MY opinion- they threw the baby out with the bath water.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788681#Comment_788681

i am having to create pallets for every book I’m studying to avoid issues

Why are you creating a palette for every book?

I would have thought you could have a single palette - set to "resource-specific" - which would result in a separate Notes document for each resource making use of the styles in a single palette.

Does this not work for you? Am I missing your point?

Whyndell Grizzard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788683#Comment_788683

i am having to create pallets for every book I’m studying to avoid issues

Why are you creating a palette for every book?

I would have thought you could have a single palette - set to "resource-specific" - which would result in a separate Notes document for each resource making use of the styles in a single palette.

Does this not work for you? Am I missing your point?

My normal practice after I finish a book is to clear the highlighting (except Bibles- which I wish I could make a simple popup in them like I do with my PDF's)- much easier if a resource has a single pallet- my major complain with the notes hook up is all the clutter in notes file, and in the documents drop down- every hilite is listed there- just seems nutty to me

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788687#Comment_788687

much easier if a resource has a single pallet

I don't understand this - and it may be a terminology issue

I agree it is much easier if a resource has a single Notes document, but this doesn't require you to have a different palette for each resource.

With a single Notes file you can either deselect it from the Visual Filter drop-down (if you just don't want to see the highlights again) or delete the Notes document if you want to totally remove them.

my major complain with the notes hook up is all the clutter in notes file

If you were to maintain two notes Documents per resource - one for notes and one for highlights - I don't understand why you would get any clutter

and in the documents drop down- every hilite is listed there- just seems nutty to me

No - each notes documents containing highlights within the resource are listed there (this is for non-biblical resources)

There is a new VF option for Bibles - there is now a section which seems to list all Notes documents and one which just has documents which has entries related to that resource. This is known as "Corresponding Notes and Highlights" (not sure when this was implemented, may be part of the current field test, may be a Logos Now feature - not sure)

Whyndell Grizzard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788694#Comment_788694

We obviously use these tools differently- highlighting is just hilite to me- DO NOT USE IT IN NOTES.

Notes are just notes- things i keep track of- and isn't that what the little note marker is for, to show where your notes are referencing.

VF I have no idea what you mean by using it to hilite- it does not have that function- I looked at it- yeah if you want to mark a certain word or phrase- yes- but not if your just reading through and want to mark something.

Even with the separate pallets and note file names- there is still cross over- to put it plainly notes and hilites are useless to me in there present form.

So all my notes now are off line in a different program- so I only have strictly hilitepallets in L6.

Believe me nothing can be done to fix this other than give the option to separate the functions- until then- I have no choice but to use outside programs. It has taken forever to delete the unnecessary clutter from notes- and transfer make information to BibleWorks.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788714#Comment_788714

We obviously use these tools differently- highlighting is just hilite to me- DO NOT USE IT IN NOTES.

Yes I understand that - I remember the earlier discussion

The reason I picked up on it here is that some of the things you were saying raised questions as to whether you had explored all the options.

VF I have no idea what you mean by using it to hilite- it does not have that function- I looked at it- yeah if you want to mark a certain word or phrase- yes- but not if your just reading through and want to mark something.

Sorry I wasn't clear.

I meant the Visual Filter menu which controls - among other things - which notes documents are enabled for a resource. So, in the example below, I have three notes files associated with the resource. Selecting / deselecting them would control whether notes / highlights in that notes document were shown in the resource

Even with the separate pallets and note file names- there is still cross over

I don't understand why there would be crossover if you had one Notes document per resources for notes and one Notes document per resource for highlights. The "highlight" document would need to have the same name as the resource (as it is generated by the software) and you could choose the "Notes" document name as you wished

so I only have strictly hilitepallets in L6.

Palettes are only ever to to with highlighting - either "pure highlights" or for notes icons. They are never where notes or highlights are stored.

Believe me nothing can be done to fix this other than give the option to separate the functions

And I'm not trying to convince you otherwise, just wanted to ensure that you understood how the various features are designed to work together.

Martin Folley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788714#Comment_788714

This may be an ill thought out solution ... but it should be easy to implement ... can we have a visual filter at the top of a notes document (similar to resources) that simply hides any notes that do not have markers in the originating resource (empty note indicators) or any that do not have any text in the comment section?

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788721#Comment_788721

This may be an ill thought out solution ... but it should be easy to implement ... can we have a visual filter at the top of a notes document (similar to resources) that simply hides any notes that do not have markers in the originating resource (empty note indicators) or any that do not have any text in the comment section?

Sorry - I don't understand

Do you mean something in the Notes document to filter which resources are "enabled" - i.e. only notes and highlights relating to that resource should be displayed?

Surely this is something that needs to be done in the resource - which is what the Visual Filter options currently provide.

I must be missing your point.

Martin Folley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788723#Comment_788723

Sorry ... my point is the cumbersome nature too the notes documents themselves. I want to see highlights in the original resources (of course) but then I find that the notes files are clogged with unending entries that relate to the highlights but have no other function (outside the quotes view). I would like to see those 'redundant' entries hidden to that their existence is only effectively within the highlighted resources and not within the note file.

A visual filter would still allow me to see them should I decide to add a note at a later point ... I sometimes like to remind myself of why I highlighted something ... it is not always obvious later on!) ... but the key is that I have control over when, if ever, I see the items within the note file.

Whyndell Grizzard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788725#Comment_788725

Graham:

Below is a screen print the right panel is a hilite pallet I made to be only used in Heirs of Promise- you see there a list of nothing but hiltes- these are not notes- but the pallet appears under documents as a note file.

Prior to me creating separate pallets for each resource all those hilites appeared individually under documents - I literally had thousands of hilites appearing as individual notes under the documents tab.

So I started creating separate pallets for each resource- this way they only appear under the pallet name in documents.

I have done the same with each bible I use, NET, NASB, ESV, etc.

Whyndell Grizzard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788729#Comment_788729

Graham-

each Hilite pallet I have created for my resources appears as a note file under documents- but prior to doing this those individual hilites also showed up under visual filters- every SINGLE- hilite INDIVIDUALLY I did appeared there- that is a whole lot of clutter considering I have literally- conservatively speajking at one piont 10,000 hilites done in Logos- but not any more have deleted 99% of them.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/788729#Comment_788729

Prior to me creating separate pallets for each resource all those hilites appeared individually under documents - I literally had thousands of hilites appearing as individual notes under the documents tab.

I find this puzzling as I have never seen this behavior and don't know how to create it. That would be very frustrating behavior but it must be do to a setting. We have four choices of where to place a highlight:

a palette specific file
a resource specific file
the last file used
an existing note file

Somehow you managed to set it up to create a new note file for every highlight. [*-)]