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  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295

    no use us comparing sinners with sinners in a vain attempt to get a 'one-upmanship' feeling to stroke our own pride - as if i am by nature closer to God than hitler - the only way to get to the Father is well known to us (john 14 6), as long as we are not in Christ, we are all hellbound - guaranteed!

    True, Gabriel. But you are speaking of kingdom economics (the only reality that matters.)

    The post I was answering claimed "If I buy something, I own it."  so we know our discussion was limited in scope to the temporal world. No matter how hard we try to do one-upmanship of "My government cares more than your's does." the reality is; in God's economy, the blood of Jesus is powerful enough to wash away the sin of even Jeffrey Dahmer or Adolph Hitler. There are a lot of Christians who get mad when you suggest Jesus could save everyone.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,197

    Government cradle-to-grave provision is something our current society learned from Marx.

    Can we please park politics at the door (home page) - we come from many countries with many political systems and political beliefs. When we walk through the door (click on the forum page) we're hoping for Logos/Scripture study.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295

    Can we please park politics at the door

    The previous post was last August   I'm perfectly willing to forget two month old posts if you will ......

    The criticism of Americans & calling Logos liars (remember, you said it was somewhat justified?)... Well that was just this week.  If you would go after the first posts that single out a group for attack, maybe it would look like you really cared. But I only see your protest when it is your ox getting gored. 

    Re-examine these "offensive" threads and you will see, the posts you are responding to are reactions to an original offense.  Cause & effect.

    edit: I can be a Christian in a Democracy, a Constitutional Republic, a Socialist nation, a Communist nation, a dictatorship, a monarchy, even as an anarchist. Some may be easier than others but the Apostle Paul benefited frequently from his citizenship in a world-dominating empire. btw: my politics don't fit in any of the aforementioned systems.

     

     

     

     

     

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,197

    The criticism of Americans & calling Logos liars (remember, you said it was somewhat justified?)... Well that was just this week.  If you would go after the first posts that single out a group for attack, maybe it would look like you really cared. But I only see your protest when it is your ox getting gored. 

    My apologies - I did not (and usually don't) check the date of each post in a thread marked "unread". That does cause me to make error in judgment when an old thread is revived.

    But I only see your protest when it is your ox getting gored. 

    I'm sorry you see it this way - I try very hard to be even handed when trying to calm an unpleasant situation. However, I am interested in the Ox - I assume you're referring to the Chinese Chan Buddhist work in which the Ox represents the unbridled, false human mind. That would explain why my ox has been Berean, Jewish, Islamic, Catholic, Scandinavian, Marxist, philosophical, scientific, historical ...

    Re-examine these "offensive" threads and you will see, the posts you are responding to are reactions to an original offense.  Cause & effect.

    I often co-lead a workshop on Living Well with Chronic Illness that is built around (among other things) a cycle of symptoms that easily becomes a vicious cycle. If you can break the cycle at any point you can get out of the vicious circle and improve the situation. The same is true in the forums - one can break the cycle of escalating misunderstanding/disagreement/aggressiveness ... by breaking the cycle at any point. I don't believe the Bible ever indicates that we can justify giving offensive because "they started it." I know many find my "cold rationalism" as off-putting so I do try to temper my comments.

    A current affairs report that reflects something of my approach to the forums. CNN had a special on bullying in the schools that I caught part of. In it someone, I don't know who, commented that it only took about 10 seconds for a teacher to set expectations. If X calls Y by an offensive name, the teach needs only to say something like "X, the term you used is offensive and may make Y feel bad. That is not permitted in my classroom." End of topic - the teacher moves on.

    I think there is a parallel (not equality) between bullying online and what happens now and then in the forums. I know many do not agree but I don't want to be in the situation of explaining why I did nothing.

    But as I said, I did not realize that it was an old post to which I should not have replied now.

     

     

     

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295

    If X calls Y by an offensive name, the teach needs only to say something like "X, the term you used is offensive and may make Y feel bad. That is not permitted in my classroom." End of topic - the teacher moves on.

    But if teacher never tells "X" to avoid using the term that offends "Y" and only tells "Y" to be understanding to "X" because "X" is different than the rest of the alphabet class, the remaining vowels & consonants start thinking "X" is teacher's pet.  If that happens, poor glottal stops coming to class [:P]

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,197

    But if teacher never tells "X" to avoid using the term that offends "Y" and only tells "Y" to be understanding to "X" because "X" is different than the rest of the alphabet class, the remaining vowels & consonants start thinking "X" is teacher's pet.  If that happens, poor glottal stops coming to class

    Not where my kids went to school nor for many on CNN. Maybe the East Coast (where the show was set) and the West Coast (where I live) are more polite than the rest of the country? Not a theory that would generally occur to me.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295

    Maybe the East Coast (where the show was set) and the West Coast (where I live) are more polite than the rest of the country?

    In fly-over country we wouldn't call Logos "liars" or insult Americans (even those in Boston, SF, NYC & Seattle)

    isn't it ironic; I find myself defending the victims of aspersions against those holding banners that tout "tolerance" and I grew up without Sesame Street in a country with a ban on guns & free speech. 大和 (or 日本 for the modernists.)

     

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  • Milton C.Jones
    Milton C.Jones Member Posts: 11

    As you personally know I will not go to an illegal site to get logos. However, I do get really frustrated when I have bought Logos  Portfolio and continue to buy on the Community Pricing and I can not even download my books. Every time I go to my order page and click on books I have purchased it takes me to another page where I used to click on "Download to other versions" but know as soon as that comes up it goes back one page and is double exposed and I can't even download to libronix 3.  I have tried everything and I can't download because of this. When the download page comes up I can't get to the point to click on download to other versions before all this happens. A couple of times I was able to do that and then the download button came up and I was able to download those to sets. I can see why some people get discouraged and might go to an illegal site to get their books.

    Bokushi

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,498 ✭✭✭

    Well, one thing's for sure. Logos4 would really look great in the Ginza. The Libronix office would have to remain down in Yokohama.

    Milton ... I guess I have to ask ... are you sure it's not your browser. Just asking. I use the musical one without problems and it's usually the problem-child (Opera).

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Rich DeRuiter
    Rich DeRuiter MVP Posts: 6,729

    First, when you buy a book from Logos you should get an email with instructions for downloading to Logos4. But if you didn't, or can't find it, you can still do it from the web site, at your Account /Orders page.

    To get to the right place, be sure to click on the order number, not the book title.

    Then you'll see an ad for Verso, Logos4 and Biblia.com. Scroll down on that page and you should see "Download Instructions for Logos4" and "Download Instructions for Previous Versions."  Click the little triangle next to that second one and you should see an unlock button. Click it and follow the instructions.

    If you need clearer instructions, please ask.

     Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

  • Daniel Ruban
    Daniel Ruban Member Posts: 2

    I read on the Still Truth site they were seeding a torrent of PBBs.  I think that was just a delivery method they are experimenting with. Nothing illegal about that particular torrent but some would question the wisdom of using the same tools the underbelly of the net uses.

    I thought the Logos licensing system would prevent the pirated stuff but I guess Satan never sleeps. It still seems kind of bizarre to steal Bible software. I can't imagine a saved person enjoying a peaceful conscience using stolen software.

    Would you rather people not have resources if they can't afford them? I honestly don't have the ability to buy Logos, but i would love to use it. What would you propose? (i am half excpecting an answer like "its stealing and wrong so don't torrent its bad, or wait till you can afford it")
    In case you are wondering i did not torrent it.

     

  • Would you rather people not have resources if they can't afford them? I honestly don't have the ability to buy Logos, but i would love to use it. What would you propose? (i am half excpecting an answer like "its stealing and wrong so don't torrent its bad, or wait till you can afford it")
    In case you are wondering i did not torrent it.

    Welcome [:D]


    "The Word" is free, which has a lot of free resources available for use, including a variety of megapacks.

    Logos Bible Software has more resources and features, including visual filter highlighting.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Daniel Ruban
    Daniel Ruban Member Posts: 2

    Would you rather people not have resources if they can't afford them? I honestly don't have the ability to buy Logos, but i would love to use it. What would you propose? (i am half excpecting an answer like "its stealing and wrong so don't torrent its bad, or wait till you can afford it")
    In case you are wondering i did not torrent it.

    Welcome Big Smile

     

    "The Word" is free, which has a lot of free resources available for use, including a variety of megapacks.

     

    Logos Bible Software has more resources and features, including visual filter highlighting.

    Keep Smiling Smile

    Thanks i'll look into it! (logos is just a bible study tool, sucks its out of this world expensive though) Its not a necessity, its a want, but not necessity. God bless!
    If you can pray for me please, learning alot of things right now, and its tough! (meaning going through some trials, going deeper into Christ (hopefully!))

     

     

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you can pray for me please, learning alot of things right now, and its tough! (meaning going through some trials, going deeper into Christ (hopefully!))

    Praying for you. Trials can often bring us closer to Christ, or else we can grow bitter through them. Sounds like you've got the right attitude about it which is good. Still, it's no fun when it happens. But looking back on it, you will probably not want to have traded these trials for anything once you gain the benefits in Christ through them. Praying that you will feel His presence in a deeper way than you ever have known before.

  • Thanks i'll look into it! (logos is just a bible study tool, sucks its out of this world expensive though) Its not a necessity, its a want, but not necessity. God bless!

    Logos software is free, resource licenses range from free to expensive.  Thankful for many free Vyrso books, which can be used in Logos (have learned to check Vyrso daily); now have 74 free ebook's.  Thankful for Logos free book of the month.

    Caveat: compared to other Bible software, Logos has more opportunity to spend money since Logos has thousands more digitized resource licenses available for purchase.

    If you can pray for me please, learning alot of things right now, and its tough! (meaning going through some trials, going deeper into Christ (hopefully!))

    Praying.  Many years ago learned to not pray for patience, which is answered with more trials and tribulations, see Romans 5.

    Thankful for many friendly forum discussions about Logos Bible Software; have learned a lot plus have a lot to learn.

    Wiki Extended Tips for Visual Filters => Examples of visual filters includes a Logos screen shot showing verbal range of expression in Phillippians 4:4-9 where Paul used many imperatives (commands), including "Rejoice in the Lord" where Rejoice is a command; hence my Keep Smiling 4 Jesus [:D]

    Likewise would appreciate prayer while seeking what God wants me to do that glorifies Him along with seeking for God to purify my heart.  Thankful for God's peace plus perfect timing.

    Looking forward to Faithlife by Logos where can share prayer requests, which allows others to mark Praying plus can mark "Amen" when God answers.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • MM
    MM Member Posts: 1

    Hi, Can you send me those link to I Remove theme for ever?

  • Sean Ambrioso
    Sean Ambrioso Member Posts: 1

    What happens when you charge someone for salvation and truth? Jesus addressed this with a whip in hand. to charge for biblical teachings is just as much a crime as it is to steal spiritual knowledge. May truth be truth and truth is free.

  • HJ. van der Wal
    HJ. van der Wal Member Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭

    Thankful for free Logos and Verbum Basic with essential resources for Bible study:

    https://www.logos.com/product/136022/basic