Linux version of Logos Bible Software
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As a pastor of a cash strapped church, and as someone who invests in this tool. I think it is a great idea to get logos to work on linux and then start a ministry of refurbishing older computers installing this on them to send to impoverished areas with our country and around the world. But that is just me. I understand the costs and all and that is why i still have one windows computer. I just think it would be nice to be able to provide lower income ministries access to great tools without having to pay as much for it.
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As a pastor of a cash strapped church, and as someone who invests in this tool. I think it is a great idea to get logos to work on linux and then start a ministry of refurbishing older computers installing this on them to send to impoverished areas with our country and around the world. But that is just me. I understand the costs and all and that is why i still have one windows computer. I just think it would be nice to be able to provide lower income ministries access to great tools without having to pay as much for it.
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As a pastor of a cash strapped church, and as someone who invests in this tool. I think it is a great idea to get logos to work on linux and then start a ministry of refurbishing older computers installing this on them to send to impoverished areas with our country and around the world. But that is just me. I understand the costs and all and that is why i still have one windows computer. I just think it would be nice to be able to provide lower income ministries access to great tools without having to pay as much for it.
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As a pastor of a cash strapped church, and as someone who invests in this tool. I think it is a great idea to get logos to work on linux and then start a ministry of refurbishing older computers installing this on them to send to impoverished areas with our country and around the world. But that is just me. I understand the costs and all and that is why i still have one windows computer. I just think it would be nice to be able to provide lower income ministries access to great tools without having to pay as much for it.
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As a pastor of a cash strapped church, and as someone who invests in this tool. I think it is a great idea to get logos to work on linux and then start a ministry of refurbishing older computers installing this on them to send to impoverished areas with our country and around the world. But that is just me. I understand the costs and all and that is why i still have one windows computer. I just think it would be nice to be able to provide lower income ministries access to great tools without having to pay as much for it.
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After this long, I'm not so concerned about Faithlife targeting Linux... They have been supportive of the effort e.g. supplying information, allowing binary distribution, commenting on wine bugs etc. We already have the windows version running very smoothly on Linux. I use it nearly every day. Video, audio and speech will follow soon but since they work in the webapp it is no real problem. Folks must not forget that the webapp is a response to the need to support more niche platforms, Linux and ChromeOS. In short, Faithlife has not ignored Linux users.
Looking forward, at some point (v10?) Logos will be built on .NET 6 and it will be easier both for wine but also for a native port. I would hope that because of .NET 6 FL might reconsider the cost / benefit of a fully native build again as it might not be nearly as difficult as it has been up to now.
We are already testing Box64, which will most likely see near native speeds for ARM (currently there are missing instructions and it crashes). This is similar to how Rosetta2 works on m1 macs. It somewhat cleverly swaps out libraries for native ones etc. So even Logos for raspberry pi is looking likely.
Thinking about Stephen's point about the safety of our investments in Logos, this Linux work is already really important to believers in certain regions and I think concern over how secure Logos is for the future is a relevant topic. I know that Bob has written about this in the past so I'm grateful it is considered. I personally miss the 'send to kindle' feature which felt like a helpful backup, a safety net. I bought an onyx boox instead of my kindle which at least gives me the eInk reading experience but the books are still only in Logos and I'm relying on Logos to work.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Stephen Jones said:
Do you have to wait for someone else before you try to make Logos available for Linux?
It essentially is.
Stephen Jones said:I pray wisdom, and not the bottom line drives your decision making.
Wise owners of companies pay close attention to the bottom line. Otherwise, those companies cease to exist.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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MJ. Smith said:
As a retiree from IT, I don't want FL wasting it's time porting to Linux or building interfaces to external products. Linux has it's place but it is not as a competitor in the general user market. Interfaces have their place but they come with a high maintenance cost unless done solely via standardized formatting. As FL does not borrow money, I want them to concentrate their energies on meeting the needs of their core market -- and spending any surplus on supporting the churches in diaspora after being exiled from their Middle Eastern homes. I post this only to show that there are multiple opinions that FL has to take into consideration.
What is FL? Oh FAith life LOL I have downloaded Zorin OS 16 since it is super easy to parallel install next to windows. I'm hoping we don't have a crash of all things microsoft, but if we do, I'd like to still be able to use my full version of Logos.
I don't understand the WINE thing and how to program it? I think most people are like me, and want a "plug and play" version.Thanks for all the input into this thread! I saw where someone said to install a windows emulator, but that sounds like it defeats the purpose here. There's got to be someone that can have a linux version, ready to go in case windows (owned by the most evil man on the planet) goes bye bye. Just saying, we have a lot of new light on this old topic.
Jesus was born of a VIRGIN, as it is written in the LXX, testified in the NT Matthew 1:23
Isaiah 7:14 (Brenton LXX En)
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I am loath to support companies like MS that publicly and adamantly attack Christian morality and life. Yes, it's almost impossible not to these days, but it can't happen without alternatives.
FL, of course, is a business and must support its users and make money for its employees, but they have been great in helping people get going with WINE and I, for one, would welcome a Linux native version, if only to have one less reason to need Apple or MS products.
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Michael Lindner said:
I am loath to support companies like MS that publicly and adamantly attack Christian morality and life. Yes, it's almost impossible not to these days, but it can't happen without alternatives.
FL, of course, is a business and must support its users and make money for its employees, but they have been great in helping people get going with WINE and I, for one, would welcome a Linux native version, if only to have one less reason to need Apple or MS products.
If Microsoft crashes, lets say in a cyber attack from Russia (wild guess here), then any company depending on that software to make money, will have NO BOTTOM LINE at all. So maybe the wise thing is to have a native linux version as a backup for it. AGAIN, I'm totally guessing here. Absolutely nothing will probably crash at all.
Jesus was born of a VIRGIN, as it is written in the LXX, testified in the NT Matthew 1:23
Isaiah 7:14 (Brenton LXX En)
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Michael Lindner said:
I am loath to support companies like MS that publicly and adamantly attack Christian morality and life.
Unneeded and untrue. Given my profession and friends I have reason to know.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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It’s worth looking at and understanding wine. Wine works very well, there are bugs but that is true on any system. When Logos is built with .NET 6 I think we will have a giant step forward. (Probably a brief step back first) We may even get a good result on arm too!
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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John Goodman said:
It’s worth looking at and understanding wine. Wine works very well, there are bugs but that is true on any system. When Logos is built with .NET 6 I think we will have a giant step forward. (Probably a brief step back first) We may even get a good result on arm too!
can Wine be used with Zorin? Is there a step by step process to follow?
Jesus was born of a VIRGIN, as it is written in the LXX, testified in the NT Matthew 1:23
Isaiah 7:14 (Brenton LXX En)
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Yes it works with Zorin
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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I just installed Logos using Daniel's script and it installed version 9.7.0.0025, but the current version in Windows is 9.12.0.0017. Why isn't the most current version installing?
Edit: In addition, after trying to copy over my data, users, and documents folders into my new installation, I received an error message stating that the resources and documents are not compatible with the version of Logos that was installed. In this case, the folders came from my Windows 9.12.0.0017 install. So, I am starting over and trying to replace these folders with a 9.7.9.0025 Logos installation I had in a VM on my desktop machine.
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You can install the latest version, I think the script defaults to an older version because of a bug which was introduced afterwards. The choice is use an older version or double click menus instead of single click. Obviously we hope to get the menus back to a single click but the change was on the Logos side which means wine needs to catch up. Because it isn't technically a 'regression' wine will take a little while to get round to addressing the issue. Alternatively you can turn off local window manager decorations etc in wine config and you'll get back the correct function I believe.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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John,
Is it possible to install the newest version using the ferion appimage script? If so, how?
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Yes, just change the version number at the top of the script. It only appears once.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Greetings,
Haven't been here for a while as everything was working well!
Now I have a logos crash on a new install.
Using the github script, I've tried fast install and slow install using local wine64 (version 7.0) appimages don't run (still working out why lol!) System is Gnu-Guix Linux with non-free files.
Basiclly is a "0074:err:virtual:virtual_setup_exception stack overflow 1232 bytes in thread 0074 addr 0x7f6f06f78758 stack 0xc80b30 (0xc80000-0xc81000-0xd80000)".
I have the backtrace 2235.backtrace.txt
Any help/hints please
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If you can replicate the crash then please post it as a bug on winehq together with the terminal log. The backtrace is less likely to be helpful. Then share a link to your bug and we'll try to get it sorted.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Thank you John.
The terminal log, is that just the "copy and paste" from when it errors?
I'll post it tomorrow as it's late here.
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For the terminal log: launch logos in a terminal not with a shortcut. E.g. Logos.sh or wine64 /path/to/logos.exe
Then in your terminal app e.g. konsole, save the terminal output to a text file and include attach it to the bug report. Don't cut and paste as the dev's like to keep messages separate from logs.
thanks
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Here's the link to the bug report.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52943
If you need any more info, happy to provide, and test and help where I can
Thank you
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Thanks, I've connected that on wine appdb and we'll do our best to figure it out.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Seems to be a lot of errors in that log... Makes me wonder if dotnet48 installed correctly. I'd probably start there myself. But I'm also viewing it on my phone screen...
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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Seems to be a lot of errors in that log... Makes me wonder if dotnet48 installed correctly. I'd probably start there myself. But I'm also viewing it on my phone screen...
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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Hi there! I'm new to Linux and Zorin and in the process of divorcing WIndows. I also use Logos BS (v.9) regularly. Could you kindly point me to documentation that give detailed instructions on how to install and maintain Logos BS on the Zorin distro. Thank you in advance for your time and assistance. God bless.
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Gabriel, welcome to the Faithlife forums.
Here is the link to the developer’s GitHub site that uses an app image to install Logos using wine: https://github.com/ferion11/LogosLinuxInstaller
We don’t know your proficiency in working with Linux, so you’ll need to reach out here if you need help..
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I have Logos running fine on other Linuxes, and tried copying it over and have the same result. It maybe due to permissions on the Guix Linux system. I'm still investigating that as appimages will not run either!
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Bill Anderson said:
Gabriel, welcome to the Faithlife forums.
Here is the link to the developer’s GitHub site that uses an app image to install Logos using wine: https://github.com/ferion11/LogosLinuxInstaller
We don’t know your proficiency in working with Linux, so you’ll need to reach out here if you need help..
Thanks very much for this link! I am also about to start the process of getting as far from windows as possible, I refuse to use windows 11. I work in IT and long ago, maybe 10 years now, I imaged a bunch of Linux machines but at this point I am a complete Linux newb. I use Logos 9 a great deal and love it, that's the only reason I would consider keeping a win10 machine around.
I'm considering the Arch distro but still researching Linux and hardware as I need to build a new machine. Depending on the hardware needed for Linux, I may build a 2nd machine or rebuild my laptop for logos. So glad to see Logos on Linux is possible, I don't want to leave logos, but if my only option was to run it on windows 11, I think I would.
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