Current Note Enhancements Wishlist (Collated from forums)

apologies if you also asked tor these in a seperate post, this is a collation from searching the forums, thought it might be helpful to putt them together both for us and for the programmers as stuff can get overlooked.

I need notes by reference to include a span of verse [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
TOC
Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
sort the notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
Allow default colour to be set for a note file
Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
ability to add in images
text formatting [color]
text formatting [highlighting]
prompt before deleting
button to remove all formatting in note
button to automaticaly add hyperlinks to bible reference

Am sure you will add anything I have missed

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Whyndell Grizzard

This would be a great start.

Kevin Becker

Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes

Friedrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/97960#Comment_97960

How about exporting Notes?

To Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManager . . ..

Paul Golder

Dominic's list updated:

I need notes by reference to include a span of verse [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
TOC
Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
sort the notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
Allow default colour to be set for a note file
Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
ability to add in images
text formatting [color]
text formatting [highlighting]
prompt before deleting
button to remove all formatting in note
button to automaticaly add hyperlinks to bible reference
Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
Spell checker

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/97987#Comment_97987

14. Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources

Presumably this would encompass also preserving such links when importing in from L3?

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/97987#Comment_97987

Dominic's list updated (3rd ed.):

I need notes by reference to include a span of verse [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
TOC
Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
sort the notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
Allow default color to be set for a note file
Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
ability to add in images
text formatting [color]
text formatting [highlighting]
prompt before deleting
button to remove all formatting in note
button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
- Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
Spell checker

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98001#Comment_98001

Here's another biggie: printing notes

Richard Lyall

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/97960#Comment_97960

Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources

This is already possible ... I have notes hyperlinks that open Word documents, for example.

Do you mean links to L4 documents or external documents?

Richard Lyall

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98028#Comment_98028

Another previous request was:

For a dual-pane view - headers in the left panel and contents in the right.

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98001#Comment_98001

Dominic's list updated (4th ed.):

Notes by reference to include a span of verse [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
Table of contents
Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
Sortable notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
Allow default color to be set for a note file
Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
Ability to drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
Ability to add in images
Text formatting [color]
Text formatting [highlighting]
Conformation prompt before deleting
Button to remove all formatting in note
Button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
- Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
Spell checker
Printing of notes
A dual-pane view - headers in the left panel and contents in the right.

Kevin Becker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98028#Comment_98028

This is already possible ... I have notes hyperlinks that open Word documents, for example.

Do you mean links to L4 documents or external documents?

I meant the ability (without leaving the Note document) to embed a word with a link using the libronixdls protocol to open a book in my library to a specific point. Right now I have to create a link in Word and then past it into a note file.

Tim Hensler

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98126#Comment_98126

A few more thoughts for notes:

Add the Underline button to go with the Bold and Italic buttons on the formatting toolbar.
Include indenting on the Table of Contents to indicate outline hierarchy (like L3) with twisties to expand or compress the list sections like the TOC on resources.
include the color selected for the note in the Table of Contents (like L3).
Choice of including notes when exporting or printing a Bible passage with a note attached (or for that matter, notes attached to any resource).
- Option to embed notes in output (indented right after the verse/text the note is attached to) or as a footnote at the bottom of the output.
Choice of including the Bible text (preferred Bible) when exporting or printing a note attached to a Bible passage (or for that matter, whatever text the note is attached to from any resource).
- Same option to embed or footnote associated text with notes output.

Thank you team for building the list - neat to see all the ideas that can make this a powerful tool. I love it!

Whyndell Grizzard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98224#Comment_98224

I have not been able to get underlining to work in notes, am I missing something?

James Hudson

A few more I'd like to see

Preserve formatting when cut/copy/paste
hyperlinks between notes
basic formating (bullets / variety of number formats for lists)
Markers (little symbols similar to emoticons)
Ability to make notes / comments on notes
"scribble tool"
attachments (any file) to notes (e.g. mp3 of a related sermon / powerpoint for sermon / openoffice doc etc)
Import / Export of (X)HTML

Kevin Becker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98235#Comment_98235

I have not been able to get underlining to work in notes, am I missing something?

Highlight text and hit ctrl+U

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98120#Comment_98120

Dominic's list updated (5th ed.):

Notes by reference to include a span of verse [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
Table of contents
Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
Sortable notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
Allow default color to be set for a note file
Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
Ability to drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
Ability to add in images
Text formatting [color]
Text formatting [highlighting]
Conformation prompt before deleting
Button to remove all formatting in note
Button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources
- Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
Spell checker
Printing of notes
A dual-pane view - headers in the left panel and contents in the right.
Add the Underline
button to go with the Bold and Italic buttons on the formatting toolbar.
Include indenting on the Table of Contents to indicate outline
hierarchy (like L3) with twisties to expand or compress the list
sections like the TOC on resources.
include the color selected for the note in the Table of Contents
(like L3).
Choice of including notes when exporting or printing a Bible passage
with a note attached (or for that matter, notes attached to any
resource).
- Option to embed notes in output (indented right after the verse/text
  the note is attached to) or as a footnote at the bottom of the output.
Choice of including the Bible text (preferred Bible) when exporting
or printing a note attached to a Bible passage (or for that matter,
whatever text the note is attached to from any resource).
- Same option to embed or footnote associated text with notes output.
Preserve formatting when cut/copy/paste
hyperlinks between notes
basic formatting (bullets / variety of number formats for lists)
Markers (little symbols similar to emoticons)
Ability to make notes / comments on notes
"scribble tool"
attachments (any file) to notes (e.g. mp3 of a related sermon / PowerPoint for sermon / Openoffice doc etc)
Import / Export of (X)HTML

DominicM

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98297#Comment_98297

29 seems pointless - just add your note to main note body at end of text..
31 is a repeat on 14

27 is alread in Beta12 with ecxeption of Underline and multiple list formats, bullet and numbered are included

30 cant see that happening, would need another layer on the UI, and there are better progs out there that already do it..

Paul thanks for re-collating new requests, are you able to delete the old list revisions? it might help reducing duplicate requests

James Hudson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98341#Comment_98341

>> 29 seems pointless - just add your note to main note body at end of
text..

Not pointless - depends on how you use notes. If I copy and paste a bible verse/range into notes I would like notes already made on that ref to 'pop-up'.

I'd also prefer if i'd referenced a Gk or Heb word to write a pop-up note reminding me of it's definition/morphology/other places used in text without that disrupting the flow of my reading the note unless I wanted to drill further down

>> 31 is a repeat on 14

yes agreed - as long as the hyperlinks are to local files

>> 27 is alread in Beta12 with ecxeption of Underline and multiple list
formats, bullet and numbered are included

Cool! Haven't got beta installed - would still think multi-list formats is a useful addition though

>>30 cant see that happening, would need another layer on the U

Isn't that the point of this thread to give ideas for improving notes! Truthfully I can't seed it happening either, but that doesn't invalidate it as a request!

I'm not sure it would need "another layer" - the functionality is built-in with the drawing mode (it's actually not all that difficult to program - the first proper Win32 program I wrote in C before any frameworks was a scribble program - I think the technical difficultly would be including it in the file format when saving - as an image??)

>>there are better progs out there that already do it..

Careful, this seems to be Bob's argument about not enhancing notes at all. Frankly there are better progs out there for ALL of the features in this thread. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be included as a 'wish list' The whole point is to try and integrate some of the 'best practise' "out there" into Logos - so it doesn't require users to need multiple programs for their Bible study

>>Paul thanks for re-collating new requests

Agreed - very useful thanks Paul!

>>are you able to delete the old list revisions? it might help reducing
duplicate requests

Agreed that would be useful - not sure it is possible though.

Thanks for taking the time to listen to my responses to your comments. [:D]

I appreciate the creation of this thread as notes are by far the worst feature of Logos 4 currently preventing it be an all-in-one bible study resource.

Every blessing,

James

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98367#Comment_98367

>>are you able to delete the old list revisions? it might help reducing duplicate requests

Agreed that would be useful - not sure it is possible though.

If it's too late to delete an old post (you only have a small window of opportunity to do that), you've still got 18 hours from the time it was posted to edit it. So one could edit one's post, remove all the text of the list, and just leave a line saying "superseded; removed by author" or something to that effect.

To delete or edit a post, click on the More menu to the right of it, and choose Delete or Edit (if available). Obviously, you can only delete or edit your own posts.

TCBlack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98341#Comment_98341

31 is a repeat on 14

I disagree.

There's a big difference between saying, "Go over there and look at this, here's the link." and "here it is!"

Of course I view hyperlinks as links to anywhere and attachments as one step closer to embedding. To which I would add my desire to embed such items. :-) Up the ante.

josh s blake

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98375#Comment_98375

Not sure if this fits into this conversation, but notes up and running in, and syncing with my logos iPhone app would be extremely useful to me, as well...especially if the other enhancements happen.

Tim Hensler

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98377#Comment_98377

When attaching a note to a word (or phrase) in any Bible with a lemma layer (Greek, Hebrew, Interlinear, Reverse Interlinear), attach the note to the lemma of that word (or first word of a phrase) so the note is available in the same verse and word in other Bibles that also have the lemma layer.

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98341#Comment_98341

29 seems pointless - just add your note to main note body at end of text..
31 is a repeat on 14

27 is alread in Beta12 with ecxeption of Underline and multiple list formats, bullet and numbered are included

Hi Dominic,

I went ahead an made some edits to the list, combining like requests.

30 cant see that happening, would need another layer on the UI, and there are better progs out there that already do it..

I can see what your are saying, and it goes along with Logos' philosophy of not wanting to "rebuild the wheel" so-to-speak. But there are many users (like me) who would love to see L4 as a "one stop" go-to tool, that doesn't require the use of another program to accomplish goals.

are you able to delete the old list revisions? it might help reducing duplicate requests

Like Rosie said, no. The main reason that I'm adding the requests to the list goes along with your original purpose for this post. For the last 5 months when ever there has been a post about desired features for notes, it becomes so long that it makes it hard (for me anyway) to remember all the requests. I figured with a updated list at the end of the post, it would help those who view it get a quick idea of requests so far.

Thanks for starting something good! [Y]

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98297#Comment_98297

Dominic's list updated (6th ed.):

Notes by reference to include a span of verse [Believed Fixed in Beta 12]
Table of contents
Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
Sortable notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
Allow default color to be set for a note file
Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
Ability to drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note window to add a note
Ability to add in images
Text formatting [color]
Text formatting [highlighting]
Conformation prompt before deleting
Button to remove all formatting in note
Button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources within L4, as well as attach and/or embed files (any file) to notes (e.g. mp3 of a related sermon / PowerPoint for
sermon / Openoffice doc etc)
- Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make tables in notes
Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
Spell checker
Printing of notes
A dual-pane view - headers in the left panel and contents in the right.
Add the Underline
button to go with the Bold and Italic buttons on the formatting toolbar.
Include indenting on the Table of Contents to indicate outline
hierarchy (like L3) with twisties to expand or compress the list
sections like the TOC on resources.
include the color selected for the note in the Table of Contents
(like L3).
Choice of including notes when exporting or printing a Bible passage
with a note attached (or for that matter, notes attached to any
resource).
- Option to embed notes in output (indented right after the verse/text
  the note is attached to) or as a footnote at the bottom of the output.
Choice of including the Bible text (preferred Bible) when exporting
or printing a note attached to a Bible passage (or for that matter,
whatever text the note is attached to from any resource).
- Same option to embed or footnote associated text with notes output.
Preserve formatting when cut/copy/paste
hyperlinks between notes
basic formatting, bullets / variety of number formats for lists [partially addressed in Beta12]
Markers (little symbols similar to emoticons)
Ability to make notes / comments on notes
- Collapsible footnotes, that "pop-up" when hovered over would work great for this
"scribble tool"
Import / Export of (X)HTML
When attaching a note to a word (or phrase) in any Bible with a lemma
layer (Greek, Hebrew, Interlinear, Reverse Interlinear), attach the note
to the lemma of that word (or first word of a phrase) so the note is
available in the same verse and word in other Bibles that also have the
lemma layer.

Stuart Robertson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98433#Comment_98433

Any word from Logos whether this list of features represents pipe dreams or possible reality at some point? For me, note-taking is the primary activity I perform as I read and study and notes are the primary output of my labours. I would guess that this is the case for many (if not most) others too. Thus, anything that improves Logos' ability to capture and manage notes can only be good for the product long-term.

Might a Logos heavyweight (Bob, perhaps?) comment on this wishlist?

Pat Flanakin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98852#Comment_98852

Notes by reference to include a span of verse [Believed Fixed in
Beta 12]
Table of contents
Collapsable Notes (Implied in B12 by new button)
Sortable notes {alphabetical, bible order and created date}
Allow default color to be set for a note file
Remove blank space between notes if a note's content is blank
Ability to drag the highlight to the "Add Note" label on a note
window to add a note
Ability to add in images
Text formatting [color]
Text formatting [highlighting]
Conformation prompt before deleting
Button to remove all formatting in note
Button to automatically add hyperlinks to bible reference
Ability to hyperlink to non-bible resources within L4, as well as
attach and/or embed files (any file) to notes (e.g. mp3 of a related
sermon / PowerPoint for
sermon / Openoffice doc etc)
- Also preserving such links when importing in from L3
Borders on table formatting (when pasted) and the ability to make
tables in notes
Exporting Notes to Word, OneNote, Powerpoint, MindManage, etc...
Spell checker
Printing of notes
A dual-pane view - headers in the left panel and contents in the
right.
Add the Underline
button to go with the Bold and Italic buttons on the formatting toolbar.
Include indenting on the Table of Contents to indicate outline
hierarchy (like L3) with twisties to expand or compress the list
sections like the TOC on resources.
include the color selected for the note in the Table of Contents
(like L3).
Choice of including notes when exporting or printing a Bible passage
with a note attached (or for that matter, notes attached to any
resource).
- Option to embed notes in output (indented right after the verse/text
  the note is attached to) or as a footnote at the bottom of the output.
Choice of including the Bible text (preferred Bible) when exporting
or printing a note attached to a Bible passage (or for that matter,
whatever text the note is attached to from any resource).
- Same option to embed or footnote associated text with notes output.
Preserve formatting when cut/copy/paste
hyperlinks between notes
basic formatting, bullets / variety of number formats for lists
[partially addressed in Beta12]
Markers (little symbols similar to emoticons)
Ability to make notes / comments on notes
- Collapsible footnotes, that "pop-up" when hovered over would work
  great for this
"scribble tool"
Import / Export of (X)HTML
When attaching a note to a word (or phrase) in any Bible with a
lemma
layer (Greek, Hebrew, Interlinear, Reverse Interlinear), attach the note
to the lemma of that word (or first word of a phrase) so the note is
available in the same verse and word in other Bibles that also have the
lemma layer.
Large fries and a coke

DominicM

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98872#Comment_98872

Large fries and a coke

We only have the food that satisfies, and doesnt leave you hungering for more, I suggest you try BurgerKing or McDonalds...

Darren Paul Wright

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98433#Comment_98433

I think a good place to keep this list would be http://wiki.logos.com/Feature_Wishlist . I would recommend starting a new section just for notes, then filter any duplicates out of the other list.

DominicM

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98886#Comment_98886

added to wiki page above, please add anything else to there

Terry Poperszky

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98886#Comment_98886

I think a good place to keep this list would be http://wiki.logos.com/Feature_Wishlist .

Why not use logos.uservoice.com instead, then we can see how the user base as a whole feels about these.

DominicM

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98912#Comment_98912

if you want to - be my guest - but is it "officially endorsed"? cos if its not its almost meaningless

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98921#Comment_98921

if you want to - be my guest - but is it "officially endorsed"? cos if its not its almost meaningless

Yes, it is "officially endorsed" -- it was announced here on the forum by Bob Pritchett himself. It's experimental so far, but they'll definitely be paying attention to it:

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/12621.aspx

DominicM

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98931#Comment_98931

excellent - only 10 votes and 30 on our list so far...

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/98921#Comment_98921

if you want to - be my guest - but is it "officially endorsed"?

I would think that when Bob P. announces it as an experiment it is officially endorsed. I think that the initial results may not be super-helpful because some of the features requested have already been committed to. And it will take a bit of time for people to learn how to word requests effectively. But when I look at how the requests and priorities are sorting out, I am encouraged that it will become representative and useful.

Trey Selman

Ability to use highlighting styles to indicate selection note in resource. (ability was available in L3)

DominicM

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/99037#Comment_99037

I agree, I had missed BobP's announcement thread tho..