Logos 8 Wishlist
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I’m late in responding, but could you please consider these features?
1. for word lists, have a built-in feature to choose words by frequency within the entire OT/NT and also within individual passages (e.g., include only words which occur between 1 and 10 times in Matthew 1)
2. for word lists, be able to have lemmas listed with their Greek/Hebrew root, with audio for the root as well. And also be able to sort the Word List in way that lists each root with their corresponding cognate lemmas.
3. be able to send Greek/Hebrew concordance results to a Word List, so we can have a list of roots in a certain passage and all their cognate lemmas, plus the audio for the roots and lemmas.
4. be able to fully print/export Greek/Hebrew condordance results, with all the lemmas and roots included.
5. be able to select a word from the concordance search results and from a Bible Word Study and send it directly to a Word List, along with its audio.
6. in concordance, be able to click a dot next to a Greek/Hebrew word to hear its pronunciation, so that clicking on the word still opens up the Bible Word Study window
7. be able to save exact concordance searches, since saving concordance as a layout doesn’t save all the search details.
8. Modern Greek pronunciation for the Read-aloud Greek NT, and Modern Native Hebrew Pronunciation for the Hebrew OT, with the option to replay/repeat the audio for individual verses (also with variable speed options).
9. have a tagged modern German Bible and tagged modern French Bible that parses all the German and French words. It would be helpful for people who are learning the languages.
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Please make the Morph Query Builder part of the standard base packages, rather than in the Logos Now subscription. It should be at least in Logos Gold and higher, since it is an important tool for studying the Bible in Greek and Hebrew.
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Other requests:
1. When searching on a Greek or Hebrew word from an English Bible, highlight the entire phrase that is translated by this word in the search results list. It does this properly if you add a second copy of the same English Bible to the search results and it does this properly when you click on an English word with the Interlinear Ribbon on. For example, a search on καταβαίνω should highlight "comes down", not just the single word "comes".
2. Bring back the Visual Search from Logos Libronix 3!!! It was great that you could use this with any Bible and you could force agreement and non-agreement of morphological features. This is much easier to comprehend and set up than the Syntax search.
3. For sentence diagramming, I would like the Text Flow Diagram to allow splitting the sentence and moving part of the sentence out of order. This can be done with a Line Diagram, but it is trickier to set up and overkill when you want to work with phrases or clauses, rather than individual words. In the following example, "who was with me" and "though he was a Greek" need to be removed from the sentence and moved below the main clause, to show that they modify "Titus". The elipses (three dots) indicates something is removed. This is a Line Diagram, but I want to be able to do with a Text Flow Diagram.
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A complete set or two of Greek NT sentence diagrams (not just the ability to diagram)
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As a Greek teacher, I have long wished that there was the ability to turn on an "examination mode" in Logos that would disable parsing and looking up words in lexicons. This would sort of be like a kiosk in the library that only allows using the web browser to access the library catalog and the rest of Windows features and other websites are disabled.
My dream would be to allow specifying that only Greek or Hebrew words that appear less than a selectable number of times could be looked up in a lexicon. Then an exam in Greek could allow them to look up words that they do not know, but not other words. Limiting parsing to only unfamiliar forms would be awesome, but more difficult to implement. For example, there could be a list of morphological features that could be checked off to be displayed in parsing.
But even if we could just disable parsing and word lookup it would allow students to take a biblical language exam without requiring that they have a printed Greek New Testament or Hebrew Bible. Since we require Logos at our seminary, most of our students do not even have printed Greek and Hebrew Bibles.
In the best of all worlds, Faithlife would once again allow installation of Logos on school computer labs as they did for Libronix. In that scenario, the professor could turn off certain features for all students through something like the Windows Group Policies on a network.
It would be harder to implement one individual computers. But perhaps the professor could share a layout with students and when they open the layout it would only allow opening books that are already in the layout (chosen by the professor) and only the Logos context menus selected by the professor would be available. They could not open other books without changing to a different layout.
I know this is a big stretch and would not interest most people, but if you don't ask you won't receive! It is worth brainstorming about how Logos could better be used for language instruction.
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I would also like verse lists to highlight the search terms, just as the original searches did. Perhaps the display of this could be turned on as an option.
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William Walker said:
3. Lastly I would hope that the desktop app UI be modernized, simplified and allow for customization. Simplification could be handled by providing a more configurable settings page so that features that are seldom used except in more academic scenarios could only be turned on when needed. The UI itself seems a little long in the tooth, though in some areas it has a more modern feel. Those inconsistencies also show up as previously mentioned about the touch interface. It would be nice to have every interaction with the UI behave in a well thought out and consistent manner. As far as customization I don't have any suggestions per se other than perhaps giving us a little more control over context menus, main menu items, and toolbars and sorting.
Thanks for suggesting this William. I agree that a simplified, customizable UI is urgently needed.
I would very much like to see a single mouse click option which would hide the resource panel toolbar and other panel elements on either side of it. This would increase reading space, eliminate toolbar clutter, and hide any distracting toolbar button while maintaining the functionality of the toolbar and other hidden panel elements only one click away.
I also believe an option is needed to individually hide any resource panel toolbar button which is visually distracting, seldom used, or routinely accessed through another means such as a context menu or the resource panel menu.
An example of a visually distracting toolbar button in my opinion is the Multiview Resources button which was so distracting to my eyes as I tried to focus on resource text below it that I had to return the Full Feature Set.
The following link is to a reply I previously submitted to this thread reflecting several specific UI customization requests (including but not limited to the two mentioned above). https://community.logos.com/forums/p/148421/927928.aspx#927928
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Just one more wishlist item, which is a follow-up to thread => Sentence Diagram - Text Flow Settings with New UserVoice Suggestion => Sentence Diagramming: Bible Text Only
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Speed. Despite what my profile says below, I am now on a Macbook Pro (2014) with plenty of power. Everything is mostly instant now, but...
The homepage takes so long to populate. It is so frustrating. Another one is trying to pull up the verse of the day graphic.
Resize bug. This has been a known issue for years on Mac and nothing. When I restart my computer, and then reopen Logos, it is either a tiny square, or half off the screen to the side. Smart guys like you should have that figured out by now! [:D]
Resource hiding. Since I have bought packages along the way, my library is cluttered up with Monographs. I have no use for them in the program. BUT... some of them look interesting enough to read and I would like to read them in Faithlife Ebooks. But if I hide them in Logos desktop, they are gone there too.
Similarly, I would like to hide everything except Bibles and Monographs in Faithlife Ebooks. It seems like that would have to be done online on a special page but you fellas can figure that out!Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage
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Please make the process of making personal books easier. Or at least make videos on how to format them!! [:D]
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I would really love to see better lectionary integration. I have the weekly RCL passages on my home screen. I would love to be able to click it and have my lectionary commentaries open to the correct passages, suggested liturgies, songs, etc. This kind of integration would work well for so many of us, and make lectionary preaching so much easier!
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I'm really with you here Nick.
Faithlife would do well to refocus on the less academic uses for the program.
I am constantly surprised by the blindness they have to the number of ministers on their books for whom the Lectionary is by necessity a major tool in their ministry and the lack of support provided.
While I raise the traditional 'Hear Hear' let me walk away muttering 'reading plans' mumble mumble, 'projects' mumble mumble....
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Follow-up to thread => BUGS/BAD DESIGN: Mark resource as read is observation that reset of Reading progress does not clear "wear" locations in resource. Hence dreaming of way to reset automatic bookmarks from previous reading.
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I so agree. The materials are all there, so it just seems that some programming and workflow design (maybe some additional tagging) is all that is required to take lectionary reading to the next level. As Faithlife wants to have the community element, it would seem for some churches and groups this would be a natural springboard.Nick said:I would really love to see better lectionary integration. I have the weekly RCL passages on my home screen. I would love to be able to click it and have my lectionary commentaries open to the correct passages, suggested liturgies, songs, etc. This kind of integration would work well for so many of us, and make lectionary preaching so much easier!
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Just two things on my wishlist:
1) Speed improvements: in both the indexing and navigation department.
2) Maps. Bringing Carta stuff in would be a plus. But at minimum, the atlas needs a revamp. Basic actions such as zooming in/out + dragging map around can be quite slow.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
As Faithlife wants to have the community element, it would seem for some churches and groups this would be a natural springboard.
Definitely! RCL preachers constantly compare notes and ideas. I'm in a RCL email list and two Facebook groups.
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Interactive media under tools lists 10 of the interactive media and if you want to see more, you need to click all interactive media which then brings up a window. I would like to see all interactive media in the drop down menu. I would like to see also the ability for users to create drop down menus
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Please address long-standing bugs like this, that go back over four years.
Bible Word Study is one of the gems of Logos. It should receive enough attention to ensure that its translation wheels show the same information, regardless of operating system.
Thank you!
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
What's on your Logos 8 wishlist?
Send-to-Kindle.
Do whatever you need to do to fix the "technical, legal, and permission issues" you had in 2016!
We need an easy way to read our Logos books on an e-ink device!
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The ability to show your calendar devotional in the left sidebar of the homepage. If this is too radical, then the ability to show only ONE calendar devotional (ONE only!) in the content section of the homepage (I don't know about other people but I only use one devotional at a time, not five!).
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Josh said:Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
What's on your Logos 8 wishlist?
Send-to-Kindle.
Do whatever you need to do to fix the "technical, legal, and permission issues" you had in 2016!
We need an easy way to read our Logos books on an e-ink device!
Yes!
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I would like to be able to Preserve the Active Resource's DataType between Layouts.
What I’m thinking of is straight forward but kind of difficult to explain:
- A Layout consists of several Resources.
- Each Resource can accept a DataType to navigate it.
- If I’m in another Layout, and right-click on an open Resource’s Tab it must then list all Layouts that can accept this Resource’s DataType
- When I click on the Layout it should send this DataType to the first appropriate Resource in that Layout for navigation
- The Result is streamlined Layouts were I can navigate between them without loosing my intended position. This will enable the user for instance to create Layouts that Represent steps in a Bible Study Method or Sermon Preparation cycle and to navigate between them without getting lost.
- This could be optimized by storing the Layouts in History for easy backward and forward navigation
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And a Mobile Ed course maybe a season (Advent, Epiphany, Lent) that spans the three years of readings, with generous helpings of "how to" videos interspersed with the lectures.
Along with an apologeia of why reading the Bible using the lectionary is not "just another Bible reading plan" but shows connections in texts and promotes the Church seeing the year not through Hallmark time but Christian time.
Rober Webber has passed away, he would have been the perfect lecturer, but Thomas Oden or James Hart would be great as well.
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1) Allow user to change tray icon and start up splash screen. [e.g. change to a menorah (aka KJV "candlestick" SEE He 9:2) which agrees with Re 1:12. Others, such as Pentecostals, Charismatics, etc. may prefer a dove symbol. While Paul preached the cross, other aspects are equally valid to many.
For Hebrews believers and others, He is seen standing amongst menorahs ("lamp-stands") indicating Victory, rather than a Pre-Resurrection/Ascension/Enthronement/Outpouring death instrument.
2) Rt-click on tray icon to display a few recent layouts, similar to many programs/apps displaying recently opened files.
3) In iOS when it prompts for password after reading for a while, allow to proceed reading if password is not then available. Password is needed to sign in to update highlights etc. User may not be online, or password may be available when user returns home or has access to password in a different location - I don't have all passwords on device. Currently, requiring password when not available shuts down Logos.
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David Betts said:
In iOS when it prompts for password after reading for a while
If you are being asked for the password, something is wrong. That isn't a normal behavior of the app (it has never happened to me). If you changed your password with FL, then I would expect a request for the password to occur. Is that what happened? If not (and if you continue to have issues) please create a new thread in the mobile forum to help troubleshoot.
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JT (alabama24) said:David Betts said:
In iOS when it prompts for password after reading for a while
If you are being asked for the password, something is wrong.
I wonder if that's ios? When I don't touch base with apple for a while, they ding me on any app using the net. I usually ignore them for a while.
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Denise said:
When I don't touch base with apple for a while, they ding me on any app using the net.
I'm not quite sure I know what you mean. I do know, however, that when some apps get updated it requires you to log back in. The credentials, for whatever reason, aren't "sticky." I have not found that to be true with the FL mobile apps.
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I would really like to see the various Hebrew language OT bibles have wrap ability instead of only 1 verse per line capability.
This works for other languages, and it also works for the Hebrew New Testament (a user reported in the forums). For those of us who spend a lot of time in the Hebrew it sure would be nice to have that option for more text and not all the white space.
thanks,
-Jeremiah
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Hi, I love Logos, but it's speed still frustrates me.I would love to see some work done on optimizing code and making things a little snappier. With a large collection of books, some searches take an inordinate amount of time.
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Hi James
James Haak said:With a large collection of books, some searches take an inordinate amount of time.
Can you start a new thread outlining the issues you are seeing?
While there are performance issues - which have improved recently - it may be something specific to do with your system or the searches you are running that cause the performance issue you are seeing and it would be good to explore it
Graham
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I would really like to see a "Send Guide Links here" option added to the resource menu. See the Screencast to understand why this would be such an awesome little feature. In the demo I'm obviously just randomly selecting commentaries, but it serves to demonstrate my preferred setup for general Bible study. Of course if I want to actually open a copy of another commentary WITHOUT replacing the current one, I could drag-n-drop from the guide.
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Rick Ausdahl said:
Similar request in a recent thread => Library - First Purchased / Downloaded Date
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Thread => Is there an easier way to tell which volumes were received in a commentary set "when purchased"? includes reply
Mark Barnes said:Reuben Helmuth said:I have, for years, wished for a "purchased date" library field (you'll see it if you open the spreadsheet in my signature), but with FLC and other subscription considerations, the field should be called "first accessible" or something like that and the license type field should have values of "owned", "subscription", "preview", and "rental" (at least).
Faithlife must have this info, and I agree it would be very useful to have in the library.
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I would like to see this collection available in a Logos 8 collection, somewhere in the Silver to Gold range. Thanks.
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Also, I'd like to see P. Oxy in an L8 collection, probably in the Diamond to Portfolio range. It's not something I need, but I'd like to have it.
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Export Interactives to Reading Plans
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An Interactive to Browse user defined Label Entries on a selected Resource that works like the Miracles of the Bible Interactive.
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Things are getting a little confusing. Library needs an indicator of what is owned, rented, temporary with expiry date. I have a resource good for a month, or six months, but not knowing duration they may go away unused. Some would consider this 'poor stewardship.'
Rather than a temporary resource expiring 30 days / six months from download, the 'countdown' should begin with first use.
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Desktop Dreams: (snippet)
- Library priorization assistant so can enter a data value that shows resources with that value in priority order.
- Library option to resize column for prioritisation so can read more of the title/series.
- Library prioritization option to collapse/expand advanced priorities as desired. Currently advanced always shows many lines.
Library Dream Threads => Tool to EASILY prioritize commentaries for individual books of the BIble and => help with prioritizing resources
Currently using a custom series for Top 2 Commentaries, which would be quite time consuming for conversion of individual volume prioritization since cannot drag & drop an individual volume (in a series) from library into Priority list.
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Currently using a custom series for Top 2 Commentaries, which would be quite time consuming for conversion of individual volume prioritization since cannot drag & drop an individual volume (in a series) from library into Priority list.
Please pardon my lack of understanding. Do U not already prioritize individual volumes using Top 2 Comms., thus putting them in to this system would work??
I am out of my league here, in terms of understanding much of this.
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scooter said:
Currently using a custom series for Top 2 Commentaries, which would be quite time consuming for conversion of individual volume prioritization since cannot drag & drop an individual volume (in a series) from library into Priority list.
Please pardon my lack of understanding. Do U not already prioritize individual volumes using Top 2 Comms., thus putting them in to this system would work??
My custom Series for Top 2 Commentaries is prioritized. Of the 172 volumes in my custom Top 2 series, 171 came from other series. Removing custom Series would reset those volumes back to their original Series. Right click on an individual volume has "Prioritize this resource" in pop-up menu, which places that resource at the bottom of Priority list. Screen shot has scroll indicator circled to show lots of prioritized items between Top 5 Bibles and bottom of list (so dragging 171 volumes into correct place would be quite time consuming along with needing advanced prioritization to skip over non Bible indexing). Contextual menu in a Bible has reference on left side with Top 5 Bibles section (at bottom of contextual items on right side). Contextual wish is Top 5 Commentary/Notes section addition (work around is Explorer tool, which is easier to use than scrolling left side context - dreaming about contextual customization so could change Top 5 from last to first).
Screen shot shows My Top 2 Commentaries, which have Top2 Tag and custom Series. Prioritize has many advanced Bible Prioritizations (e.g. 2017:CSB) so a reference in that Bible opens link in that Bible (instead of highest Prioritized). My highest prioritized set of commentaries are UBS Handbooks with advanced prioritization for Bible and Bible (GNT) links. Bibliographic and English headwords are prioritized later. Volumes in custom Top 2 series have three kinds of Bible indexing: Bible, Bible (BHS), & Bible (VUL-W) with other indexing prioritized later: English, Jerome, Latin, & Transliterated.
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I would like to see a Systematic Theology Browser (not the Interactive) just like the Bible Browser Tool. The ability to browse by Doctrine, Denomination, Author etc... on the Left and the Content on the Right.
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Pieter J Kotze said:
I would like to see a Systematic Theology Browser (not the Interactive) just like the Bible Browser Tool. The ability to browse by Doctrine, Denomination, Author etc... on the Left and the Content on the Right.
Pieter, are you suggesting this for browsing biblical texts, or systematic theology content, or something else?
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Sean, systematic theology content.
Two Things I can think of:
- Comparison of Systematic Categories and
- Classification of Tradition (Group)
After rethinking:
Comparison:
- an Index on Systematic Theology Resources for Classic Systematic Theology Categories would make it possible to link open Systematic Theologies for comparison?
- then on the other hand, the ability to link Inline Searches across Resources would also do this, but will benefit all Resources.
Classification:
- Maybe an User Defined Way to indicate the Tradition (Group). Let's say the ability to add a Watermark "Baptist" or "Reformed" or to colorize the Tab according to group or maybe a small colored icon somewhere.
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Sorry, I'm really late replying to this.
Base Package View
One feature that would be nice would be a view where I could see Collections, Libraries and Base Packages I have purchased over the years... it would be good if this included the artwork used to market these resource on the site.
Here is an example.
it would be good if these collections with marketing artwork came as standard when a base package is purchased.
Badges and Achievements
Another cool feature would be Badges and Achievements. A place where we could go an view completed courses, base package purchases, read books, status achievements etc - basically some gamification.
Productivity Reports / Dashboard
It would be good to be able to run productivity reports for set periods like the last week, month or year and comparisons like year 1 vs year 2 etc
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DAL said:
3. Ability to have hyperlinked verses in the sermon editor on mobile devices like we do on the desktop app. That way I can have my sermon open on one half of my iPad and my preferred Bible on the other half. I click on a hyperlinked reference on my sermon and it opens on my preferred Bible
Agreed
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James Hudson said:
Greater selection of Creationist books (AiG etc)
Totally agreed... AiG books would be great
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Just realised I already mentioned a lot of this three years ago in 2015 on uservoice https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-7/suggestions/9337287-user-summary-banner-badges-and-dashboard
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Chris K said:
6) ability to add more favorite things to home screen - for instance if we could select "favorite resources" to always have preview sections of it show on the home screen that would be great!
That would be good
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Philip Bassham said:
I wrote a big long post on it here -- but the summary is allow people to self-publish to the Logos platform like Amazon does with self-publishing to the Kindle, or like apps to the App Store.
Brings a new revenue source for Logos while greatly expanding resources available - especially for other languages. Which will make it hard for other platforms to ever keep up, and thus making Logos stronger.
I agree, getting my books up on Amazon is a lot easier than via FaithLife eBooks
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