Green's Literal Version (LitV / KJ3)

I have created a personal book file for Jay Green's Literal Bible translation, which was requested as a Logos edition in this thread. I decided it was more appropriate to put it in the Files subforum. A much older thread is also related.

I believe I am in compliance with the owner's policy for downloading and non-commercial personal use and sharing.

3348.Green's LitV Bible.docx

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Bruce Dunning

Thanks for sharing Robert.

Wei Qiang

Thanks,Robert.

Nord Zootman

Thank You!

Robert M. Warren

After using this a bit, it occurred to me that the translator's paragraph indicators should be inside the 'bible-on / bible-off' fields, just like any other punctuation decisions he made. I moved all of the "¶ " indicators in the text (not to be confused with the MS Word paragraph mark) to inside the affected verses' on/off fields. I was hoping this would cause the paragraph marks to appear in the Bible Text Only visual field and in the Text Comparison tool.

However, it still doesn't appear. Does anyone know why? I have attached the alternate version here.

6283.Alt - Green's LitV Bible.docx

Thanks

Mattillo

Thank you for making this available Robert! I don't know much about making personal books... which version should I use the first one you posted or the revised one?

Robert M. Warren

... which version should I use the first one you posted or the revised one?

Since my editing didn't have the desired effect, either one as they booth behave the same.

David Goodman

Thanks so much, Robert!

GaoLu

Here is something that might work for a cover.

Dan Francis

Thanks for the Bible and the great cover.

-dan

Robert M. Warren

I was hoping this would cause the paragraph marks to appear in the Bible Text Only visual field and in the Text Comparison tool.

However, it still doesn't appear. Does anyone know why?

Aha! It came to me in a vision: the paragraph mark being formatted as superscript causes it to not be considered bible-text by the visual filter and Text Comparison tool, even though it is within the bible-on/bible-off fields. I changed it to not-superscript and it now shows under both conditions. I made it in a smaller font and different color to try to separate it from the text.

In an unrelated edit, I changed the paragraph spacing for the Normal style to 6pt After. This seems to make the verses delineate a little nicer in the various views. If you don't like this part, simply modify the Normal style to have either a different After spacing or zero.

Here's the revised file:

8508.Alt2 - Green's LitV Bible.docx

Hal Warren

Thanks for converting the Jay Green Literal Bible and providing the Personal Book. Was this the KJ3 2005 version that you converted? It is found here:

https://thewordnotes.com/litv/litv.htm

Thanks again!

Robert M. Warren

Thanks for converting the Jay Green Literal Bible and providing the Personal Book. Was this the KJ3 2005 version that you converted?

Hi Cousin Hal:

Welcome to the Logos forums, and you're welcome.

The file I posted has a copyright date of 1976-2000, which also appears on the notice for the files you link to, so I think it's the same version.

Hal Warren

Yes, interesting we have the same last names! Agreed, all of the individual files are the older Literal Bible which you converted. In the upper left is the newer KJ3 pdf. What all is involved in converting the KJ3 file into a personal book?

One of my aunts traced our genealogy and we are of Thomas Warren who arrived in Jamestown in 1632 from England. Perhaps we have a common ancestor?

Hal

Robert M. Warren

Thomas Warren who arrived in Jamestown in 1632

I can't go any further back than the Huntsville area, Mid-19th century. Probably nobody famous, if you don't count Find-A-Grave.

In the upper left is the newer KJ3 pdf

Ah, I didn't see that at first.

What all is involved in converting the KJ3 file into a personal book?

For a Bible, it's fairly involved. My standard procedure for PDFs is to open in MS Word (2013 & later) and convert to docx. I opened that PDF in Word, and I'm not sure how those two columns would work out in the personal book compiler. But there are larger issues than that.

The biggest consideration in making a personal book is how practical the tagging process can be. For a Bible, if you don't have clearly recognizable patterns that you can use in Word to do Find & Replace to apply the necessary tagging, the manual work would be quite a pistol-whipping; in my case, more than I would be willing to deal with. For a Bible to be minimally functional in Logos, it needs:

Bible milestone tagging on each verse to enable Logos to index and use the resource in conjunction with other bibles and commentaries, and for searches.
Bible field on and off tagging at each end of the verse, which will enhance usefulness in bible text searches, Text Comparison, bible visual filters, and many other things I can't think of.
Link tags for the verse numerals, so you can have a hover / pop-up / link to your preferred bible for quick comparison.

This Wiki page has many details for building personal books: https://wiki.logos.com/personal_books

I use Excel at work a lot (have hammer, everything looks like nail), so what I did for the LITV was to copy and paste the web pages for each book into Excel and use text formulas to tag everything; the web page files were already in an Excel-friendly one-verse-per-line format. It was much more practical to apply the tagging. I also created a column for book names and chapter numbers with distinctive font sizes so that when in Word, I could easily apply Heading styles for the Table of Contents. Then, I copied the chapter column and the tagged Excel column and pasted them into Word, and converted the resulting table to text and finished the remaining touches.

I hope that wasn't too discouraging, but it probably was.