Changing LORD to Yahweh
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I added the word "Lord" to the Highlight so it reads "Lord
(Yahweh) YHWH". The visual
filter looks for יהוה and
produces "the Lord (Yahweh) Lord" with "the" being from the text
and the rest from the filter/highlight. Am I missing something or is this a
good solution? I made the superscript very small so it is not readable leaving the text to essentially read "the Lord (Yahweh).0 -
I have just noticed that in the 2 Samuel 7:18 passage where adona is part of the compound name, that the result is Lord Lord (Yahweh) God.
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2011/01/29
Hi,
This is a fabulous thread and I am working on using Visual Filters to make an adjustment in the English NT text for a preference of mine. I prefer to display "Yeshua" where "Jesus" appears in the text and I prefer "Messiah" where "Christ" appears in the text.
I was working on making the substitutions individually, but then there was a conflict if the expression was "Jesus Christ" - I think because of the order of the substitutions? Anyway, then I started working on displaying "Yeshua the Messiah" when "Jesus Christ" appears in the text - BUT - now I have too many levels of Visual Filters!
So first, is there a way to "hide" your Visual Filters without deleting them, as you work on other iterations of the Visual Filters - so that all of them are not applied at once, but you don't lose the ones you've worked out previously?
I haven't even gotten into the "sticky" searches yet, such as: displaying "Messiah Yeshua" for "Christ Jesus."
So if Christ comes AFTER Jesus, I would like it to display "Yeshua the Messiah" - BUT if Christ comes BEFORE Jesus, I would like it to display "Messiah Yeshua" (so there is no English "the" depending on the word order.)
Also, I've tried this with a Morphological search using the lemma and I've also used a Bible text search using the English words. I'm unclear as to which is better. I imagine in the long run it would be better to make it a Morphological search so that the results are not skewed by parts of speech.
Any information or help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, David
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David said:
So first, is there a way to "hide" your Visual Filters without deleting them, as you work on other iterations of the Visual Filters - so that all of them are not applied at once, but you don't lose the ones you've worked out previously?
Yes, uncheck them here:
Prov. 15:23
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2011/01/29
Hi Todd
What fabulous information you have in this post! Especially the first image!
Todd Phillips said:I've updated my filter to deal with the O Lord GOD situation (Where GOD is the Yahweh equivalent instead of LORD), plus the case for "O LORD" which is in verse 25 of that same passage, and I've added an Adonai filter too, which required me to use the lemma.
The value for each entry is:
- the BEFORE 1 words יהוה
- "o lord" BEFORE 1 words יהוה
- "o" BEFORE 1 words יהוה
- יהוה
- ([field bible, content] <lemma = af/he/אדן:1>)
The first three get the white highlight.
If you don't want the Adonai filter, then a line still needs to be added to the original filter to handle the "O"s. It should be set to the white highlight:
- "o" BEFORE 1-2 words יהוה
- the BEFORE 1 words יהוה
- יהוה
BTW, I also noticed an odd discrepancy (which doesn't affect the filter): verse 22 has "O LORD God" (with LORD in caps) whereas all the other verses in the passage have "O Lord GOD" (with GOD in caps), but the underlying Hebrew is the same.
I didn't realize that you could "stack" the search conditions and that each search condition did NOT have to have it's own individual formatting! That's great! So stacking the search conditions without formatting in between appears to be a logical "OR" is that correct? And am I correct in understanding that the topmost search condition is the broadest and that each successive search condition refines the search a little more? Now, if all that is true - then would it be possible to have different formatting at each level - which would be a sort of "branching" or does it continue down the list and stop at the first condition that has formatting? I hope that makes sense. I'm trying to figure out how the searches work.
Thanks, David
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2011/01/29
Hi Kevin,
Thank you so much for your incredibly fast reply to my post! [Y]
Kevin Becker said:David said:So first, is there a way to "hide" your Visual Filters without deleting them, as you work on other iterations of the Visual Filters - so that all of them are not applied at once, but you don't lose the ones you've worked out previously?
Yes, uncheck them here:
And also for the great information! At first I didn't know what "drop
down" arrow you must have clicked on to get that menu - then I noticed the three intertwined colored circles! I'm guessing that those
circles are only colorized when there are Visual Filters enabled?
Because I never really noticed them before.Thanks again, David
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David said:
And also for the great information! At first I didn't know what "drop
down" arrow you must have clicked on to get that menu - then I noticed the three intertwined colored circles! I'm guessing that those
circles are only colorized when there are Visual Filters enabled?
Because I never really noticed them before.You're welcome. Yes, the colors only appear as you enable visual filters. This is a very handy menu to know about. You can toggle visual filters, the notification boxes for note files, and even highlighting palettes. This is handy for honing your focus or speeding Logos up if it gets bogged down accounting for all the extra visual info.
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David N. said:
I didn't realize that you could "stack" the search conditions and that each search condition did NOT have to have it's own individual formatting! That's great! So stacking the search conditions without formatting in between appears to be a logical "OR" is that correct?
Actually that's not the case. The ones with the "blank" style fields are actually set to a white-colored style that you can't see because the style name is white. It's defined to be a white, superscript, and 20% sized style. This is to make the matching words practically invisible. The style names take on their defined style, and this makes the style names invisible for white styles.
If you don't set a style for a search pattern, then I don't think any style will be applied.
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Alright, what am I doing wrong? Everything works except for superscripting the original word (LORD, etc). If you look carefully at one the "Yahweh" occurrences in my screenshot, there is a tiny gray line at the lower right of "Yahweh" that I'm assuming is probably the original word, but I can't figure out what is wrong with my highlighting style or visual filter that could be causing the problem.
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Ron I spent hours trying to fix mine but kept resulting with a superscript Yahweh on a Yahweh. I could never fix it either.
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Thanks for the reply Paul. It seems that it was the filters for "the", "O", and "O Lord" that were causing the issue...so I went another route and had it place YHWH, Elohim, and Adonai below the English words at 60% in dark gray instead of trying to fiddle with replacing and hiding the English. Thanks for the help! [:)]
BTW, does anyone have any other neat visual filters they've come up with? I've got the "main verb" one that was suggested in a blog post a while back, the names of God one (that I'm working on expanding to cover all the OT and NT names), the words for love, doulos, plural pronouns and plural verbs.
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Ron Keyston Jr said:
BTW, does anyone have any other neat visual filters they've come up with?
Wiki Extended Tips for Visual Filters => Examples of visual filters includes Logos Greek Morphology, Discourse Analysis, and Herod visual filter examples.
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Todd Phillips said:Mark Barnes said:Joe Miller said:
One filter finds all OT occurrences of "the Lord" in English and the second creates the insert for YHWH.
Except they don't always match, do they?
If you do it this way, they match:
That gives me:
And if I set the color to white and the size to 20% (in addition to the superscript) in the first style, I can make the original text practically disappear:
(Although having a white style in the styles list also makes the style entry seem to disappear
)Hello
I Really enjoy the Mark-up and Visual Filter tools available. I would like to see the following updates if possible.
1) I would like to see the Above example made available as a "Compound" feature, available within the 'Same' Highlighting Style. As opposed to two separate ones for the same result.
2) I have noticed when 'Editing' a particular Highlighting Style, after Saving the particular style edited is removed from the Visual Filter's 'Selected' list , requiring treselection. (when open).
3) The 'editing' of the Original word (now Super-scripted) would be useful. (the incorporation of parenthesis around this word while Super-scripted, at times, for example)
4) When 'Choosing' a Custom Highlight for use, one Must scroll through entire list of 'Highlights' inn order to make selection (could be awhile if your list is longer than default - and even then a bit of a burden, sometimes). Maybe a compound list could be provided, where upon selection of the 'Highlighter' List a menu would present itself to offer the selection of either "Default" or "Custom" Highlighters to choose from, therefore separating the desired from the undesired at the moment and further simplifying this process. Secondly, once the desired list is selected, have only the 'Pallet Names' displayed with the Option of unveiling their sub-categories.
5) and Lastly, I too have experienced the 'White Out' (Invisible) response. Maybe instead the present Display for "Invisible" font, there could be a 'Replacement' description : i.e. "Super-scripted - White - 20%"
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**Would be nice to be able to access the Visual Filter and or Markup editing options from the right click menu
Thank You.
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Douglas said:
2) I have noticed when 'Editing' a particular Highlighting Style, after Saving the particular style edited is removed from the Visual Filter's 'Selected' list , requiring treselection. (when open).
Looking forward to Logos 4.5 Beta testing in two to few weeks that includes fix for => Bug: Logos 4.2a Beta 6 Visual Filters
Douglas said:3) The 'editing' of the Original word (now Super-scripted) would be useful. (the incorporation of parenthesis around this word while Super-scripted, at times, for example)
Option: can add Borders and Lines to Original Word, including box (with choices of line formats):
Douglas said:4) When 'Choosing' a Custom Highlight for use, one Must scroll through entire list of 'Highlights' inn order to make selection (could be awhile if your list is longer than default - and even then a bit of a burden, sometimes). Maybe a compound list could be provided, where upon selection of the 'Highlighter' List a menu would present itself to offer the selection of either "Default" or "Custom" Highlighters to choose from, therefore separating the desired from the undesired at the moment and further simplifying this process. Secondly, once the desired list is selected, have only the 'Pallet Names' displayed with the Option of unveiling their sub-categories.
Wish drop down list could look at Highlighting Tool, skip over highlighting styles in collapsed sections.
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I tried duplicating these filters to no avail. is it possible to also get a look at the highlight setups? the only one that ever works is the original YHWH to Lord highlight filter example.
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Garcia,
It might be easier to how us your visual filter document and a place in a book it isn't performing as expected. It might take 2 or 3 screenshots to show us everything but we should be able to notice what you need to tweak in order to get what you want.
Instructions on uploading screenshots to the forum http://wiki.logos.com/screenshot
Prov. 15:23
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So I tried doing this with Adonia but the filter doesn't seem to work. Here are my setups. I thank you in advance for your help.
highlight
Here is my filter.
Ideally I would like to combine the YHWH with Adonia filters but will settle for two separate filters. Again, thanks for your help.
So not sure why my screen shots did not show up.
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another attempt at including screen shots.
filter
Highlight
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Regarding screen shots, make certain you attach (via the paperclip) the image file instead of pasting into the forum editor.
There reason why your adonai filter doesn't work is because the morph scheme for the reverse interlinears differentiates between different occurrences of adonai. Right click on an occurrence of adonai.
So, that's why a the simple adn search doesn't work. To get the term that will work do this
Prov. 15:23
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Thanks for your assistance, it did the trick.
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Could you explain the three different "Elohim" you used and how they were created? Thank You for your time.
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