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Dan Francis said:
While the one positive thing is FL must want this if after all these years they are doing another meeting I wouldn't say I am optimistic or pessimistic but after all these years unless something has drastically changed I don't know how hopeful one should get.
I am cautiously optimistic but I must say that, if they can't work out a deal this time it would be very disappointing.
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Bruce Dunning said:Dan Francis said:
While the one positive thing is FL must want this if after all these years they are doing another meeting I wouldn't say I am optimistic or pessimistic but after all these years unless something has drastically changed I don't know how hopeful one should get.
I am cautiously optimistic but I must say that, if they can't work out a deal this time it would be very disappointing.
Oh come on Bruce, now you’re being negative and pessimistic 😜
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DAL said:Bruce Dunning said:Dan Francis said:
While the one positive thing is FL must want this if after all these years they are doing another meeting I wouldn't say I am optimistic or pessimistic but after all these years unless something has drastically changed I don't know how hopeful one should get.
I am cautiously optimistic but I must say that, if they can't work out a deal this time it would be very disappointing.
Oh come on Bruce, now you’re being negative and pessimistic 😜
[:)] but...
I think you know what I mean.
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I know what you mean Bruce. I’ll keep this meeting between FL and CARTA in my prayers. Hopefully y’all will get your wish 👍😁👌
DAL
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DAL said:
I’ll keep this meeting between FL and CARTA in my prayers. Hopefully y’all will get your wish
Thank you, DAL
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Our team is meeting with their team next week, so we should have some clarity coming out of that meeting.
One thing that came into my mind that they (Carta representatives) may require sufficient level of graphics quality and speed of operation in order to maintain their reputation. That may mean that the Logos graphics engine and graphics data/database format must be improved. So it may be a quite complex issue?
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I doubt this is the issue, but let's wait and hope!
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It's pointless to speculate really we know FL is a tough negotiator to the point that Moody was willing to pull out there products a few years ago. Eventually one or the other side or both moved to restart a relationship with it. The same thing happened with WJKP a few years back (the unfortunate part of that is they never did bring back the Daily Study Bible OT, I use it often and wish i could recommend it to others as a purchasable digital resource). I wish FL well in their pursuit of Carta resources. I am not overly hopeful but for the sake of those wanting them in FL I hope it works out.
-dan
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Veli Voipio said:
One thing that came into my mind that they (Carta representatives) may require sufficient level of graphics quality and speed of operation in order to maintain their reputation. That may mean that the Logos graphics engine and graphics data/database format must be improved. So it may be a quite complex issue?
I think the negotiations might breakdown on the hugely fun image flipper that A-Company includes (plus resolution). When I settle down at the local fast-food for a quick lunch, the image flipper is my addiction. Especially the archaeology ones.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Our team is meeting with their team next week, so we should have some clarity coming out of that meeting.
Any clarity you can share, Phil?
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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It would be nice to hear an update.
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A bunch are on sale at Accordance
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Keith Pang said:
A bunch are on sale at Accordance
It did make me smile that the promotion at the place we're not supposed to mention is called March Mapness [:D]
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They also capitalized on the Now frustration with language which indicates that they read Logos forums...
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Rick (EDIT: who according to his website is Technology Evangelist for Accordance) often posts on these forums as he like many people has both Accordance and Logos software. I have never seen him say a disparaging word about Logos here or even promote Accordance, indeed if memory serves at times when he has posted here and someone inquires about Accordance he directs them to their site not wanting to be seen as promoting Accordance here. I would halfway suspect there are other accordance employees here but none that I know of off hand.
-dan
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Bump. I'm very interested in getting this on Logos. I would rather not resort to buying another program just for this resource.
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Michael said:
I'm very interested in getting this on Logos. I would rather not resort to buying another program just for this resource.
Join the crowd! [:)]
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I’m seeing several cards in his hands. Carta, 2 Tov criticals, and a NETS. Why not dream?
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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I currently own a print copy of Carta's New Century Handbook and Atlas of the Bible (the condensed version of The Sacred Bridge), and I have a couple of questions regarding these two resources.
Before buying the condensed version, I tried to compare it with the Sacred Bridge. I found very little info in that regard, but got the impression that at least one primary difference was that the Sacred Bridge had a lot of original language textual material that was not in the condensed version. I figured I could do without that because I have no training in the original languages. But I couldn't determine if there was much in the way of other content in the Sacred Bridge that is missing in the condensed version that I might find interesting.
So here are my questions.
1) CONTENT COMPARISON
If you own (or have perused) both resources, is there much more left out of the condensed version than just the original language content? If so, can you comment on the nature of the additional content that's missing in the condensed version? As a lay-person without original language training, I'm just trying to determine if there is much in the way of other additional content in the Sacred Bridge that might make it worth purchasing even though I have the condensed version in print.
2) DIGITAL VS PRINT COMPARISON
Regardless of which version you have worked with (Sacred Bridge or New Century Handbook and Atlas of the Bible), if you've worked with both digital and print formats, what do you feel are the pros and cons of each.
By the same token, if you've only worked with one format, what do you like about it and what would you like to see changed.
Any input you can share will be appreciated.
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I guess you’re not interested in the whole enchilada? (March Mapness).
Strictly print vs digital:
1. High-res
2. Search strange places.
3. Fits in my purse. I love to read it, at random times.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Denise!Denise said:I guess you’re not interested in the whole enchilada? (March Mapness).
Strictly print vs digital:
1. High-res
2. Search strange places.
3. Fits in my purse. I love to read it, at random times.
I am interested in the whole enchilada--I'm just getting a couple of ingredients at a time. Fortunately, I already have some of the ingredients from prior purchases so I'm just focusing on these two right now. [:)]
Personally, I tend to prefer the digital format for some of the same reasons you gave. But I can see how these two resources could really lend themselves to sharing with extended family members, which is one of the reasons for my interest in the print format. However, even in regard to my personal preference for the digital format, the physical size of these resources in the print format is so large (especially Sacred Bridge), I've wondered how well the pages have been modified for presentation in the digital format.
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It is officially time to hit the "stop emailing replies to me button" — the first time I've ever had to do so on a Logos thread :-)
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Sorry my post was your last straw, Danny. [:$]Danny Zacharias said:It is officially time to hit the "stop emailing replies to me button" — the first time I've ever had to do so on a Logos thread :-)
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I did that years ago when I realized how much people participated on the forums!
DAL
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Faithlife ...do we have any clarity yet regarding the possibility of having the Carta resources in Logos?Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:Our team is meeting with their team next week, so we should have some clarity coming out of that meeting.
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Rick Ausdahl said:
Faithlife ...do we have any clarity yet regarding the possibility of having the Carta resources in Logos?Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:Our team is meeting with their team next week, so we should have some clarity coming out of that meeting.
That's a fair question at this point. Phil made his post on February 21st and the end of "next week" would be March 4th (10 days later) and it is now March 10th (one week after "next week").
At the same time I think we need to give Faithlife time for due process. We must be patient (and I choose to be hopeful! [:)])
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I can't imagine FL ever saying no-can-do. At least I can't remember one. Almost always silence of the lambs, or someone notices a prepub. Two choices.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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