What do you think of web forums instead of newsgroups?

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  • Aeolus Jacobus
    Aeolus Jacobus Member Posts: 71 ✭✭

    Llink to this creative cow? I'm unclear of the difference between the thread you are posting in and how you look at that and any "thread view" a NG might have? Are you not now looking at the thread dedicated to our reactions to the forums?

    Not really.  This is more like looking at a tangled skein of yarn.

    Interesting, I have no issues understnading navigating from thread to thread or understanding who is speaking to who, and haven 't experiecned this "tangled skein of yarn". I'm still waiting for a link to the creative cow you cited.

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    I'm still waiting for a link to the creative cow you cited.

    Not me.  You have the wrong party. 

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Aeolus Jacobus
    Aeolus Jacobus Member Posts: 71 ✭✭

    I'm still waiting for a link to the creative cow you cited.

    Not me.  You have the wrong party. 

    Quite right sir! Sorry.

  • Donovan R. Palmer
    Donovan R. Palmer Member Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭

    It is obvious by the number of participants, that the web forums are a raging success over the NNTP newsgroups. I still prefer NNTP, but it is a better business decision to have web forums.

    I do really, really, really hope that if nothing else is done to these forums that the 'jump to last post read' functionality is restored.  It is a real pain on some of these longer threads to figure out where you left off.

  • Jason
    Jason Member Posts: 150 ✭✭

    Here here to the last read post functionality!

    How to ask for help for Logos issues.

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,466

    Here here to the last read post functionality!

    It has always worked when you use Shortcat | Posts You Have Not Read. If you go to the forum from the Home page, it goes to the first post. There was a short time however, that it went to the last one. IMHO navigating through the forums is not the strongets feature here.

    Bohuslav

  • David Ladiges
    David Ladiges Member Posts: 290 ✭✭

    If you click the date link in the Latest Post column for the Recent Posts list that should take you to the last post in that thread. For a short time, we had that as the default for the thread title link but that didn't work so well for new readers of the thread and we had to switch that back.

    Unfortunately, we don't store the record of every post that has been read for every thread in every forum for every user so there simply isn't enough information provide a link to the last read post.

  • Andrew Nugteren
    Andrew Nugteren Member Posts: 38 ✭✭

    Unfortunately, we don't store the record of every post that has been read for every thread in every forum for every user so there simply isn't enough information provide a link to the last read post.
    And that, to put it simply, is the problem - and why the new forums are a poor comparison to the many other forums I regularly browse.

    Why not do so, guys?  There are plenty of forum software options that would make this possible, if the current software you are using for the forums isn't up to scratch.

  • Old Goalie
    Old Goalie Member Posts: 2 ✭✭

    To me, the issue is one of speed and use of time.

    I made the mistake of not checking the forum for a week, something I never would have done on the NG's.

    It takes "hours" for these screens to redraw/reset! I have fairly fast internet and Firefox 3.5. The forum technology (or this particular software) has real issues!

    I used to check all of the NG sections -- I will not be checking all of these.

     

    Steve F

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness Member, MVP Posts: 13,487 ✭✭✭

    If you click the date link in the Latest Post column for the Recent Posts list that should take you to the last post in that thread.

    David

    Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see this date link you mentioned. The only link I see is the topic name. Sometimes this takes me to the last page, but just as often it takes me to page 1. This thread has already reached 11 pages. Navigation remains the biggest problem in this forum.

    Jack

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see this date link you mentioned. The only link I see is the topic name.

    On the Home Page under "Recent Posts" where the topic is listed there is a date over to the right.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Donovan R. Palmer
    Donovan R. Palmer Member Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭

    If you click the date link in the Latest Post column for the Recent Posts list that should take you to the last post in that thread. For a short time, we had that as the default for the thread title link but that didn't work so well for new readers of the thread and we had to switch that back.

    It appears that the only place that you get this is on the first screen. Even if you click for "more" on the bottom, you don't get the last post.

    To be honest, the busier the forums become, the worse this is going to be. I really do hope you guys are tweaking this software! :)

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness Member, MVP Posts: 13,487 ✭✭✭

    Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see this date link you mentioned. The only link I see is the topic name.

    On the Home Page under "Recent Posts" where the topic is listed there is a date over to the right.

    Yes there is a date on the right side, but on my browser, it is not a link. David had said that if you click on the last post link, but I only find a list of last posted dates with no links.

    Jack

  • Jim Dean
    Jim Dean Member Posts: 312 ✭✭

    Praise God!

    And thanks to you, Bob, as well!

    I've been "begging" for a forum interface for several years now, most recently just about 3 months ago.  Everyone kept directing me to RSS feed, which I heartily dislike, due to its requirement for me to add an Outllook interface, or change from Win Explorer to some other browser, etc.  I've got an efficient "groove" that I've used for a couple of decades re communications that works well for me ... and ever since I fussed with Outlook and found it was more of a gateway to virus attacks than all other software I know of, I've stopped installng it (incl Outlook Express).  So, no RSS.  It's gotten somewhat frustrating because many calls or emails that I make to the support group keep yiedling replies of "we don't support usage questions" and "go to the RSS group for an answer".  Each time I get a response like that, I (reasonably patiently) explain that I don't have or want Outlook ... I use Yahoo email for its great spam protection and total portability ... and "would you please offer a forum?"

    However, I am an ACTIVE contributor to forums in several venues, and have gotten in the habit of going through most all postings (via email hits) on the ones that hold my interest, sort of like an extended coversation.  I enjoy helping others, I have a lot of creative ideas, and I've got about four decades of programming and testing experience.  I went on the first cruise to Alaska, and had a great time both learning from and interacting with many users as well as Bob and his crew (already knew Morris pretty well).  In fact, I was a one time given a job offer to rep for Logos in the Atlanta area, but scheduling did not work out.  I guess you could say I'm committed to the product, and the company. So, the introduction of this interface is a WELCOME move forward to me ... probably more so than any other single upgrade that Logos has ever provided.

    My only regret is that I was not notified of this!  Even after asking so many times.  I just happened to run across the heading option at the top of the page when I was viewing my current Prepub purchase list and trying to cull it back a bit (currently over $1000 ... I've probably spent over $6000 on Libronix stuff over the years - no better "investment"!)

    Suggestion - send a brief EMAIL to ALL LIBRONIX USERS that announces the forum!

    =============
    Redeeming the time (Eph.5:16+Col.4:5) ... Win 10, iOS & iPadOS 16
    Jim Dean

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness Member, MVP Posts: 13,487 ✭✭✭

    Maybe I'm dense, but I don't see this date link you mentioned. The only link I see is the topic name.

    On the Home Page under "Recent Posts" where the topic is listed there is a date over to the right.

    Yes there is a date on the right side, but on my browser, it is not a link. David had said that if you click on the last post link, but I only find a list of last posted dates with no links.

    Jack

    Just logged in again, and now the last post dates appears as a link. I'm too young to become senile [:D]

    Jack

  • David Housholder
    David Housholder Member Posts: 113 ✭✭

    Please go back to the newsgroups. They were easy to read, easy to follow. These forum areas are hard to navigate, take up far too much screen space and are now way as much a pleasure to check as the newsgroups were.

  • David Housholder
    David Housholder Member Posts: 113 ✭✭

    Oh, one more thing. The gray text on light gray background is not good for my older eyes.

  • Chuck Lindsey
    Chuck Lindsey Member Posts: 74 ✭✭

    Newsgroups painful and buggy as heck with front end readers.

    Forums... lovely.

  • Brian Whalen
    Brian Whalen Member Posts: 67 ✭✭

    My gripe with the web forum is there is not an easy way to see all the new topics, one has to go to the main page, then click more etc, and those show the ones recently posted to, not the ones recently created.

     

    Brian

    Brian Whalen

    http://www.mcnazarene.com

  • Steve Robinson
    Steve Robinson Member Posts: 120 ✭✭

    Bob - My vote is for you to fly us all to Logos World Headquarters once a week for lunch, a personal update by you, Dan and Phil, followed by a time of guaranteed-to-be lively discussion.

    That said, while you guys are talking that possibility over, I like the forums just fine, although I still am not sure if I'm taking full advantage of the "benefits" (whatever those might be) over the newsgroups. Maybe a posting on some "how to's" and a few "tips and tricks" would be welcome, here and in the Logos support section.

  • David Buckham
    David Buckham Member Posts: 549 ✭✭

    One huge advantage with the Forum that I have really enjoyed is I
    don't have to wait to download everything.  When I started looking at
    the News Groups I had to wait a few hours to download all the past
    material...then I actually choose to read through most of it...mistake.

    I appreciate only following the forums I want to follow. 

    Keep at it, I have a feeling it is still a work in progress and there is probably more to come.

    And, I like Steve's idea.  I would love to be flown up to the headquarters for lunch and a chat.

    all about Christ,

    David

    all about Christ,

    David Buckham

     

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,466

    And, I like Steve's idea.  I would love to be flown up to the headquarters for lunch and a chat.

    Would that include those happy Logos users from behind the ocean? [H]

    Bohuslav

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 3,087

    A bit of nostalgia ... 13 years ago and Logos4 was about to be launched.  Bob had just rolled out the forum software.

    Bohuslav is still with us.  Dan and Rich disappeared.  Phil got promoted. And FL ignored George's RI-warnings.