Theology/Denomination Tags
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I've improved the list of Theology/Denomination tags, vastly expanding the number of Baptists covered:
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The spreadsheet containing the list of Universities and Colleges has been expanded:
0207.Denominations and Theology.zip
Apologies that it's now a zip file, but it wouldn't accept me posting it as a spreadsheet, presumably because it's so big.
It now has tabs for:
Denominations (a printable and clickable family tree),
Authors (containing denominations and theology, as in the Word document but in more manageable form, plus the major commentaries to which they have contributed),
Publishers (as per the Word Document, still quite limited)
Sets (as per the Word Document, currently very small)
Universities and Colleges (as previously, but much fuller and more thoroughly checked)
Links (a selection I've found helpful)
Logos Rules (see later post)
Dup Authors (Duplicated Authors, entered more than once)
Difficulties (Authors who have changed within their writings and a few who proved harder to categorise)
As always, comments, suggestions and amendments welcome. [:D] I still think these documents are far from complete, but getting better...
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I'll finish up later.
I'm hoping that "later" will soon be upon us... [;)]
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But Wikipedia says Wardlaw was from Scotland, so the New England characteristic intertwining of Congregational and Presbyterian might not apply.
In Scotland, the Congregationalists and Presbyterians didn't get together until 2000, and even then some Congregationalists resisted.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregational_church#United_Kingdom and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregational_Federation.
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To pick up all the resources for Seventh-day Adventist use:
Author:(“Anderson, Bruce”, “Dederen, Raoul”, “Fayard, Carlos”, “Gulley, Norman R.”, “Harding IV, George T.”, “Hernandez, Barbara Couden”, “Horn, Siegfried H.”, “Knight, George R.”, “LaRondelle, Hans K.”, “Neufeld, Don F.”, “Nichol, Francis D.”, “Rice, Richard”, “Smith, Uriah”, "White, Ellen","Gugliotto,Lee") OR Publisher:(“Andrews University Press”, “Review and Herald”, “Seventh-day Adventist")OR (Subject:"ellen white writings")OR(mytag:"sdaencyc","sdaatlas")
Seventh-day Adventist Encyclopedia and Seventh-day Adventist Atlas were not being recognized thus the reason for "mytag"
This is what is listed in the document. If someone could merge theses it would be greatly appreciated.
Author:(“Anderson, Bruce”, “Andrews University”, “Brand, Leonard”, “Davidson, Richard M.”, “Dederen, Raoul”, “Doukhan, Jacques B.”, “Fayard, Carlos”, “Gane, Roy”, “Gugliotto, Lee J.”, “Gulley, Norman R.”, “Harding IV, George T.”, “Hasel, Gerhard”, “Hernandez, Barbara Couden”, “Horn, Siegfried H.”, “Knight, George R.”, “LaRondelle, Hans K.”, “Miller, Nicholas M.”, “Neufeld, Don F.”, “Nichol, Francis D.”, “Rasell, Marc”, “Rice, Richard”, “Richards, W. Larry”, “Smith, Uriah”, “Stefanovic, Ranko”, “Swanson, H. Peter”, “White, Ellen G.”) OR Publisher:(“Andrews University Press”, “Review and Herald”, “Seventh Day Adventist”)
Thanks, Lynden. I wasn't 100 per cent certain what you wanted, but the Logos Theology Tags document now says:
Seventh Day Adventist
Author:(“Anderson, Bruce”, “Andrews University”, “Brand, Leonard”, “Davidson, Richard M.”, “Dederen, Raoul”, “Doukhan, Jacques B.”, “Fayard, Carlos”, “Gane, Roy”, “Gugliotto, Lee J.”, “Gulley, Norman R.”, “Harding IV, George T.”, “Hasel, Gerhard”, “Hernandez, Barbara Couden”, “Horn, Siegfried H.”, “Knight, George R.”, “LaRondelle, Hans K.”, “Miller, Nicholas M.”, “Neufeld, Don F.”, “Nichol, Francis D.”, “Rasell, Marc”, “Rice, Richard”, “Richards, W. Larry”, “Smith, Uriah”, “Stefanovic, Ranko”, “Swanson, H. Peter”, “White, Ellen G.”) OR Publisher:(“Andrews University Press”, “Review and Herald”, “Seventh-day Adventist”)
Additional Suggestion
OR Subject:(“ellen white writings”) OR MyTag:(“sdaencyc”, “sdaatlas”)
NB: The MyTag part will only work if these tags have already been added by the user to the SDA Encyclopedia and Atlas respectively.
I hope this is the merging you wanted. I don't think you wanted me to exclude the extra names, just include all the ones you had listed. This should work for you:
Author:(“Anderson, Bruce”, “Andrews University”, “Brand, Leonard”, “Davidson, Richard M.”, “Dederen, Raoul”, “Doukhan, Jacques B.”, “Fayard, Carlos”, “Gane, Roy”, “Gugliotto, Lee J.”, “Gulley, Norman R.”, “Harding IV, George T.”, “Hasel, Gerhard”, “Hernandez, Barbara Couden”, “Horn, Siegfried H.”, “Knight, George R.”, “LaRondelle, Hans K.”, “Miller, Nicholas M.”, “Neufeld, Don F.”, “Nichol, Francis D.”, “Rasell, Marc”, “Rice, Richard”, “Richards, W. Larry”, “Smith, Uriah”, “Stefanovic, Ranko”, “Swanson, H. Peter”, “White, Ellen G.”) OR Publisher:(“Andrews University Press”, “Review and Herald”, “Seventh-day Adventist”) OR Subject:(“ellen white writings”) OR MyTag:(“sdaencyc”, “sdaatlas”)
I don't have the SDA Encyclopedia or Atlas in http://www.logos.com/product/9202/seventh-day-adventist-bible-commentary-expanded-edition, and the webpage doesn't list Author or Publisher information for these. If anyone could list Authors or Publishers, as shown in the Library, then I will try to use these instead of the mytag approach. Similarly for the writings covered by Subject:(“ellen white writings”).
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Another Catholic, that doesn't seem to have been mentioned: William T. Cavanaugh.
Thanks, fgh. Now included.
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Andrew,
I don't know if you've already put together something like this, but if not, this might help. It's an Excel workbook that contains all the data in the rules that you have posted on this thread. I have not incorporporated any of the other changes suggested so that you can curate it as you choose. All the names are in easy to edit list and the rules are built automatically. It does contain a small VBA function for concatenating the lists of names so you will see the macro warning when opening.
Sorry for appearing to ignore this, Randy. It's really helpful, but I knew I wanted to be heading towards putting all of the authors on a single tab, so I've been waiting until this was complete before responding. If you were able to write a Macro to automatically populate the Logos Rules tab on the zipped spreadsheet, then I would greatly appreciate it. It will be far easier to maintain a spreadsheet than a Word Document.
3617.Denominations and Theology.zip
It will need a rule to be generated for each category and each subcategory where the subcategory is different from the category, plus for each theology represented by a column. Ideally it will look in the Authors, Publishers and Sets tabs, and will generate its own list of categories, subcategories and theologies, so that new ones can be added as necessary without needing to change the macro. I don't think this should be too hard for those who regularly write macros, though I realise it might need more explanation. Are you up for the challenge?
In case Randy doesn't see this (or has better things to do), I'd welcome a macro from anyone that is able to populate the Logos rules tab, like Randy's macro did, but based on the paragraph above. Can anyone help here?
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Author:(“Anderson, Bruce”, “Andrews University”, “Brand, Leonard”, “Davidson, Richard M.”, “Dederen, Raoul”, “Doukhan, Jacques B.”, “Fayard, Carlos”, “Gane, Roy”, “Gugliotto, Lee J.”, “Gulley, Norman R.”, “Harding IV, George T.”, “Hasel, Gerhard”, “Hernandez, Barbara Couden”, “Horn, Siegfried H.”, “Knight, George R.”, “LaRondelle, Hans K.”, “Miller, Nicholas M.”, “Neufeld, Don F.”, “Nichol, Francis D.”, “Rasell, Marc”, “Rice, Richard”, “Richards, W. Larry”, “Smith, Uriah”, “Stefanovic, Ranko”, “Swanson, H. Peter”, “White, Ellen G.”) OR Publisher:(“Andrews University Press”, “Review and Herald”, “Seventh-day Adventist”) OR Subject:(“ellen white writings”) OR MyTag:(“sdaencyc”, “sdaatlas”)
Thanks Andrew. This picked up one additional resource. Don't know what it is, but time will tell.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Andrew this has been a major project where you have invested huge amounts of time. Thank you so much. It will very much enhance being able to search through our libraries from a specific theological perspective.
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I'd welcome a macro from anyone that is able to populate the Logos rules tab
I worked out a rough draft this evening. I've attached two sheets that were generated purely by code. There may still be off-by-one errors, etc. Still needs to be checked, but I wanted to see if this is heading in the right direction before I go too far. If you want to send feedback to me directly, I have a gmail account. You can reach me there with user name simsrw73.
Note: This is only the results from iterating over category/subcategories. I haven't worked out the Theology columns yet.
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Andrew et al... since collections can now be shared as documents (seems to be at least) would it not be ideal that a faithlife group be created to share these as collections?
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Andrew et al... since collections can now be shared as documents (seems to be at least) would it not be ideal that a faithlife group be created to share these as collections?
Sounds like a great idea.
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Andrew et al... since collections can now be shared as documents (seems to be at least) would it not be ideal that a faithlife group be created to share these as collections?
Sounds like a great idea.
Ok then... here it is as a test: https://faithlife.com/logos-library-theology-denomination-tags
I have shared a few of my created collections according to the collection rules in this thread as a test. Join the group to see and share yours. Maybe it's best if there is a master copy that gets updated.
[edit: link updated so that it links to the main page instead of the Documents page which might not be visible for those of you who did not join yet]
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https://faithlife.com/logos-library-theology-denomination-tags
Lynden reported that the link led to a page that said the group doesn't exist. I'm hoping this is just a temporary issue because for me it's working now. If you experience the same error, please try typing "tags" into the faithlife group search box and this group should appear at the top.0 -
https://faithlife.com/logos-library-theology-denomination-tags
Lynden reported that the link led to a page that said the group doesn't exist. I'm hoping this is just a temporary issue because for me it's working now. If you experience the same error, please try typing "tags" into the faithlife group search box and this group should appear at the top.What ever it was it is working now. Thanks.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Peace, Sleiman! "tags" worked! *smile* I'm "in"! Thanks, eh???
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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I'm "in"!
I'm in too!
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I added the rest of my denominations collections to the group. I hadn't finished all of them yet.
Just wanted to point out that the Annabaptist collection picked up a false positive: the Herald Press publisher rule picked up the Franciscan Herald Press. I have a resource by that publisher for Joseph Ratzinger "The Theology of History in St. Bonaventure". I just added this one to the exceptions.
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Thanks Sleiman. How do I get them in my collections?
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Click on the Documents tab where you will see the list of shared collections with the group. Hover your mouse over the collection, press the blue 'Actions' drop-down button and select 'Copy'. Now (as if by magic) you should have it in your collections list. If you don't see it right away, wait a few minutes or try to update by pressing the rotating arrows on the top right side in your Logos.Thanks Sleiman. How do I get them in my collections?
By the way anyone can share their collections to the group. You can do this by clicking on 'Manage your Logos documents':
Now sort by type by clicking on the word Type at the top of the list. Of those documents whose type is 'Resource Collection' you can hover over that row and press the blue 'Action' drop-down button that shows up and select 'Publish'. Then select the faithlife group you want to publish to. That's it; now all the other group members can see and copy the collection you've just shared.
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Guess it over wrote what was already there. Thanks.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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I'd welcome a macro from anyone that is able to populate the Logos rules tab
I worked out a rough draft this evening. ...
Randy and I have been working for a few days now on the best way to convert the data from a spreadsheet, which is relatively easy to manage, into rules that can be copied and pasted into Logos to create collections, while trying to make it as transparent as possible.
Randy has done a fantastic job of coding this for us, so it now updates all the rules every time a macro is run. I've amended the data a bit, including a few amendments to what makes a denomination (roughly a subcategory in the spreadsheet), and what makes a Denomination Stream (roughly a category on the spreadsheet). The spreadsheet is now too big to post to the forums without zipping it first, so there is a zipped copy below.
Please note that there is no need for anyone to run the macros unless they are editing their own data. Feel free to leave macros disabled as you open the spreadsheet, or to play with the macro if you think it might be fun. It is guaranteed virus-free, but if you leave the macros disabled, then you don't have to worry about what the macro does.
The data is far from perfect, and I intend working on this over the next few weeks. Please post suggestions, amendments and corrections here.
To use the rules, simply go to the relevant cell on the Logos Rules tab in the spreadsheet (e.g. B9 for Anabaptists, C46 for American Baptist Churches USA) and copy the cell to the "Start with Resources Matching:" line on the Collections tab in Logos. The sub-rules are simply there for transparency and can be ignored. To see what's in a cell for long lists, copy the contents to a word processing programme and examine the contents there.
Alternatively, see my next post below for an even easier way to get the collections into Logos.
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Andrew et al... since collections can now be shared as documents (seems to be at least) would it not be ideal that a faithlife group be created to share these as collections?
Sounds like a great idea.
Ok then... here it is as a test: https://faithlife.com/logos-library-theology-denomination-tags
I have shared a few of my created collections according to the collection rules in this thread as a test. Join the group to see and share yours. Maybe it's best if there is a master copy that gets updated.
Thanks, Sleiman. I hadn't looked at the possibility of sharing the collections directly within Logos before. This is definitely the easiest way for them to be shared.
I'm not sure how we deal with quality control, etc. though, so to try to keep it consistent, I'm happy to manage collections based on the data in the spreadsheet above. Clearly, others can still copy their own collections there, but it might get a bit messy if it's not limited to just Denominations and Theologies. Perhaps there could be other groups for other types of collections.
To make it as easy as possible to use the rules generated previously, I have copied most of them to the group you created at: https://faithlife.com/logos-library-theology-denomination-tags/documents
The ones I have created all start with the word Denomination, Theology, or Denom. Stream. I hope this is self-explanatory. Note that you do not need to take personal copies of all of them, but you can choose the ones you want. After taking a copy, you can edit them as you see fit within Logos, and you can delete them from your own copy of Logos if you decide you no longer need them.
Please let me know what you think.
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I'm not sure how we deal with quality control, etc. though, so to try to keep it consistent, I'm happy to manage collections based on the data in the spreadsheet above. Clearly, others can still copy their own collections there, but it might get a bit messy if it's not limited to just Denominations and Theologies. Perhaps there could be other groups for other types of collections.
I agree. I have edited the group settings of the faithlife group by limiting document posting to admins/moderators. I demoted myself to member and promoted you and Randy to admins (hope you don't mind), this way you control the updates of the collections to match the rules as they are updated. Thank you for that! Please feel free to delete collections that were posted before as they may be redundant/irrelevant now or as you see fit.Please let me know what you think.
This is a great example of the usefulness of faithlife groups and community effort. I love it.[:)]0 -
I...promoted you and Randy to admins
I appreciate that, but this is wholly Andrew's project. He's done all the work of gathering the data, validating it, and putting it into the spreadsheet posted. I only wrote a little code to hopefully help him in his work. Andrew should be the sole administrator.
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This thread was a bear to find.
Joining the group
Also with all of the up to date rules, there are still 115 resources in my library that are not yet in a denominational collection. Much of it looks like journals.
I posted some of the titles on the group. Just thought this would maybe get more visibility.L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
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Did my best to eliminate personal books and so forth, though I am sure SOME of them still are. Also there are a number of resources that come up that are tied to features; particularly timeline of "blah blah blah". So those were excluded manually as well.
Finally: Wilkinson, J. Gardner
Would have just posted these on the group, but it seems one cannot post pictures there.
Edit: Further narrowed down the list.L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
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That's a wonderful incredibly labourous labour of love for you to do on our behalf, Dear Brother! *smile* Thank you very much!
May the Peace and Joy God gives us in Jesus pervade your life and overflow to all those in contact with you! *smile*
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Important! This thread provides the means for stupendous power using Logos 5 collections...
I'm just wondering how to communicate to others the tremendous power available to them in organising and using their Logos Library.
Maybe it's just like sharing the Gospel, eh? One at a time, I guess! Each one reach one, I guess!
But it is so sad for so much power to go to waste for those having large libraries and not effectively using their collections ...
Dave Hooton and others have done a superb job with the Wiki; however to use the denominational tags as part of the "Wiki Training" is not likely the wisest option...
Users need to know the "basics" before they can work at the "advanced"!
http://wiki.logos.com/Collections is what we have now; and -- frankly -- I'm sorry that I don't really have any great ideas ...
However, it "blows my mind" at the power of the Logos Dynamic Collection System, and I am sincerely grateful! *smile*
Peace to all!
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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This thread provides the means for stupendous power using Logos 5 collections...
I'm just wondering how to communicate to others the tremendous power available to them in organising and using their Logos Library.
Maybe it's just like sharing the Gospel, eh? One at a time, I guess! Each one reach one, I guess!
Indeed collections are a tremendous tool to help us maximize our libraries. You post made me wonder how many people who own Logos have taken advantage of this.
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