Make the ESV Reverse Interlinear available for purchase outside of the base packages
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Have you considered the payment plan? It would cost you about $58.00 per month for about 9-12 months. Talk to Dave Kapplan at Logos for more information. Tell him Michael Huffman sent you! God Bless!!!
Pastor Michael Huffman, Th.A Th.B Th.M
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Michael Huffman said:
Have you considered the payment plan? It would cost you about $58.00 per month for about 9-12 months. Talk to Dave Kapplan at Logos for more information. Tell him Michael Huffman sent you! God Bless!!!
Maybe I am a little bit slow but I did not get the point...[:(] What the payment plan for?
Bohuslav
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Well. you spoke about the fact of the price of the collections that contains the books you would use. The point was, if that is the case, you can use the payment plan to help make it more affordable. Unless I misunderstood your previous post.
Pastor Michael Huffman, Th.A Th.B Th.M
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Michael Huffman said:
Well. you spoke about the fact of the price of the collections that contains the books you would use. The point was, if that is the case, you can use the payment plan to help make it more affordable. Unless I misunderstood your previous post.
I am sorry, may be I did not say things clearly enough (English is my 3rd language after Czech and Polish) so I apologize for that. I did not speak though about prices of resources or collections in my post at all.
Have a great day
Bohuslav
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Bohuslav Wojnar said:Michael Huffman said:
Well. you spoke about the fact of the price of the collections that contains the books you would use. The point was, if that is the case, you can use the payment plan to help make it more affordable. Unless I misunderstood your previous post.
I am sorry, may be I did not say things clearly enough (English is my 3rd language after Czech and Polish) so I appologize for that. I did not speak about prices of resources or collections in my post at all.
I think perhaps Michael misunderstood because of the title of this thread ("Make the ESV Reverse Interlinear available for purchase outside the base packages"), but the thread began with someone else and has evolved in an entirely different direction.
Jack
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JackCaviness said:
I think perhaps Michael misunderstood because of the title of this thread ("Make the ESV Reverse Interlinear available for purchase outside the base packages"), but the thread began with someone else and has evolved in an entirely different direction.
Jack
Hmm... OK, I just wanted to say I see reverse interlinears as a usefull tool for people wise enough to not doing too quick conclusions about their exegetical/translational discoveries. So I would recommend it to be made available as a seperate resource.
Bohuslav
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EstherJones said:
Looking at the examples here in this thread makes me wonder if indeed it is something on which I'd like to spend my money. So perhaps bundling it is wiser than I originally realized.
Still, I would like to point out that if I had had the chance to purchase those, then realized that they were of no use to me unless I studied the original languages myself, it might have spurred me on to greater efforts in that direction. And surely that's a good thing.
Esther
Ester,
You might be interested in looking at the following article about the Reverse interlinears: http://www.ccmag.com/2009_06/ccmag2009_06kpurcell.pdf
Bohuslav
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Bohuslav Wojnar said:EstherJones said:
Looking at the examples here in this thread makes me wonder if indeed it is something on which I'd like to spend my money. So perhaps bundling it is wiser than I originally realized.
Still, I would like to point out that if I had had the chance to purchase those, then realized that they were of no use to me unless I studied the original languages myself, it might have spurred me on to greater efforts in that direction. And surely that's a good thing.
Esther
Ester,
You might be interested in looking at the following article about the Reverse interlinears: http://www.ccmag.com/2009_06/ccmag2009_06kpurcell.pdf
Thanks very much, Bohuslav; that information was ultimately the most helpful. I am now the proud (but poorer) owner of the Bible Study Library, which includes the wonderful ESV RIB.
Esther
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I beg to differ with George on GREEK being unapproachable by the average Bible student. I also believe the Reverse Interlinear Bibles are a good tool to have at one's disposal. and commend LOGOS for making them available. Language acquisition is accomplished more often by immersion and osmosis than rote memorization. My first two languages were learned this way. (Most missionary kids learn the spoken language faster on the street than their parents do in language school.) The "play" stage of learning is when the student may greatly benefit from Reverse Interlinears & the Audio Greek NT - even if you can't keep up with it or pronounce it differently. I am not suggesting abandonment of scholarly pursuit of language study, just maybe a little "touching of the palate" to familiarize new students. [:'(].
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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MatthewCJones said:
I beg to differ with George on GREEK being unapproachable by the average Bible student. I also believe the Reverse Interlinear Bibles are a good tool to have at one's disposal. and commend LOGOS for making them available. Language acquisition is accomplished more often by immersion and osmosis than rote memorization. My first two languages were learned this way. (Most missionary kids learn the spoken language faster on the street than their parents do in language school.) The "play" stage of learning is when the student may greatly benefit from Reverse Interlinears & the Audio Greek NT - even if you can't keep up with it or pronounce it differently. I am not suggesting abandonment of scholarly pursuit of language study, just maybe a little "touching of the palate" to familiarize new students.
.You may beg all day long and differ by as much as you like, but I did not say that Greek is unapproachable to the average Bible student. Immersion in a language is almost certainly the best and quickest way to learn it; however, an interlinear, whether reverse or not, is not a way to immerse one's self in the language. Indeed, it is almost precisely the opposite. With an interlinear you have the English staring you in the face all the time. I've got a dollar to a sack of doughnut holes that says you can't avoid looking at the English, and the moment you peek it is by definition no longer immersion. If you want immersion in Greek (or Hebrew), I know of an Ulpan in Israel where you can experience that.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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i would like to post what I really feel about some of the posts here, but i just couldn't do it. [6]
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new here and made a mistake in posting so i will try again: i would really like to respond to some of the responses, but i am afraid that i might offend someone. [6]
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Mark Ledbetter said:
new here and made a mistake in posting so i will try again: i would really like to respond to some of the responses, but i am afraid that i might offend someone.
Hi Mark, welcome to the Logos forums. Check the date of the last post in a thread before responding to it. This one had lain dormant since June 2009, so there's pretty much no point in responding to any of the posts in it. Start a new thread if you'd like to say something in general on this subject again, but don't respond to something someone said over 16 months ago. They probably don't remember saying it, and certainly aren't in the same mood they were in when they did. And yes, you might offend someone if you're feeling devilish. [;)]
Introduce yourself on the Newbies!! thread or ask a question about getting to know Logos 4 better, make a suggestion for improvement in the software, or whatever. Hope you find the forums helpful!
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