Announcing Logos Mobile Education
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I get educated everyday when my Logos goes mobile on my Nexus 7 and sometimes on my phone too.
Something tells me this isnt what you meant, huh?
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Given that this thread was started by Johnny Cisneros, one of the creators of the DVD "Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos Bible Software" I'm guessing this new venture has to do with training videos for mobile devices.
Johnny, could you tell us more? Is there a website yet? I googled "Logos Mobile Education" and didn't find anything except this thread.
It seems premature to create a forum about something that hasn't even been announced yet. Who is going to have questions about it? Apart from this sort of speculative "what the heck is it?" kind of question. Maybe that's the whole point -- to create some buzz surrounding it before it's released.
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Johnny Cisneros said:
We're excited about our new Logos Mobile Education division and its potential to help you learn and grow. Please use this new forum to post your thoughts or questions. We appreciate your feedback. Thank you! Johnny
Ok, I have briefly read through the blog announcement, and have discerned that Logos will be implementing an online bible course. Now for the questions.
1. What level of courses will be offered? Will it be for babies (beginners), toddlers (those that are aware, but know very little), teenagers (those that have the training of their parents, and want to go further), adults (those that know much, and want to know much more), or seniors (those that are seasoned and can teach, preach, etc.)?
2. Will this be somehow integrated within the Logos application or will it be a separate website with links to the individual's Logos program?
3. Will there be a cost for this in addition to ownership/license of Logos or will it just require the user/student to be a registered user with the resources?
4. Are there any samples or video descriptions of this?
5. Will this be an academic program with credits or is it for anyone desiring to go further in their personal study?
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From the blog post:
Erwin Stull, Sr. said:Will this be somehow integrated within the Logos application or will it be a separate website with links to the individual's Logos program?
Every video is transcribed for cross-referencing and tagging within Logos, so the video content can be discovered in searches, just like books within Logos; this makes your course part of your permanent library.
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Mark Barnes said:
From the blog post:
Erwin Stull, Sr. said:Will this be somehow integrated within the Logos application or will it be a separate website with links to the individual's Logos program?
Every video is transcribed for cross-referencing and tagging within Logos, so the video content can be discovered in searches, just like books within Logos; this makes your course part of your permanent library.
Thanks Mark; I missed that.
Maybe its too soon, but it would be nice to have more of a description of the details since the word is now out. [:)]
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Hi rosie.
I do agree with you
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Certainly sounds interesting..... [H]
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Great! Looking to learn how we can LEARN more! Let's make all this tech stuff work for us. So we can be more effective in sharing the GOOD NEWS in the WORD and of CHRIST!!
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I also hope you are going to bring Morris in on this too! He has being working from the beginning to bring training together with the Logos Software for the plain man or women in the world to grow and be more effective with the Logos Software. I feel he has the background and experience that would be a great help in the development of this project.
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Is Logos Mobile Education a more sophisticated version of Proctor's training videos? Is LME training in the use of specific Logos resources? Is LME, as stated earlier, an education in biblical or ministerial subjects?
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Unfortunately I fear, like many of the Logos Resources, the price would mean that it would be out of reach for many of us :-(
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Are you talking about actual college type courses? Or just training on how to use Logos?
We need more details.
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Erwin Stull, Sr. said:
teenagers (those that have the training of their parents, and want to go further)
Don't teenagers already know everything? If you don't believe that, just ask one [:D]. (Speaking from long experience here: 3 adult children, each of whom was a former teen; 7 grandchildren who have pass through those years; 1 grandchild just now learning of his vast knowledge)
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Erwin Stull, Sr. said:
teenagers (those that have the training of their parents, and want to go further)
Don't teenagers already know everything? If you don't believe that, just ask one [:D]. (Speaking from long experience here: 3 adult children, each of whom is a former teen; 7 grandchildren who have pass through those years; 1 grandchild just now learning of his vast knowledge)
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I too am excited about this, my main question would be about cost, what if any is going to be the cost of this?
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Erwin Stull, Sr. said:
teenagers (those that have the training of their parents, and want to go further)
Don't teenagers already know everything? If you don't believe that, just ask one [:D]. (Speaking from long experience here: 3 adult children, each of whom is a former teen; 7 grandchildren who have passed through those years; 1 grandchild just now learning of his vast knowledge)
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I look forward to learning more about this. It sounds like a real help section F1 option that is lacking in Logos. The cost is something that concerns me, I would like it to be considered part of the package so the user can get the full use out of the tools they have purchased.
J.T.
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Now note that each time I attempted to edit my original post, this forum created a new post. Great idea for boosting post count, but otherwise quite frustrating.
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Nick Horton said:
Are you talking about actual college type courses? Or just training on how to use Logos?
The blog post says it's both, lectures in biblical studies, theology and church history, and screencasts showing how to "validate lecture content" in Logos.
Logos Blog said:Logos has been focused on equipping users for Bible study… Logos has not had instruction in biblical content as a primary goal… The time has come for us to address this problem…
Logos Blog said:…biblical studies, theology, church history, or any subject a Logos Mobile Education course might cover
Logos Blog said:Logos Mobile Education courses include expert professors recorded in HD video... Screencast demonstrations are added to lectures to show students how Logos can be used to validate lecture content
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Looking Forward to This!
If the Faithful Living Series is anything to go by, then I'm really looking forward to this. I give the initiative 10 stars and can't wait for the first course / module.
We have been going through the Faithlife bible Reading Plan as a church and our mens ministry has been going through the Abraham course (one session per month) and it's been great.
Thanks Logos... and keep up the good work.
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Jack Caviness said:Erwin Stull, Sr. said:
teenagers (those that have the training of their parents, and want to go further)
Don't teenagers already know everything? If you don't believe that, just ask one
. (Speaking from long experience here: 3 adult children, each of whom was a former teen; 7 grandchildren who have pass through those years; 1 grandchild just now learning of his vast knowledge)Hi Jack;
Yes, that is so true. I should have placed the teenagers beyond the senior (seasoned). [:D]
You are blessed. So far, I have 3 grandchildren (the oldest being 5) and 7 adults (we are done). [:)]
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This is exciting! This is why I started LearnLogos.com. Glad to see Logos recognizing the need.
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I hope this doesn't come out wrong, but I'm having trouble getting excited about this at the moment.
The blog article is written in the present tense as if it's available now, but has no real details about how to get it, what exactly is available, and how much. If it were written as more of a "it's coming in the future" article, I could understand the lack of details. But that's not how I read it.
I'd like to get excited about this. I really would. But, I wish a sentence or two would have been used to at least give us an availability date if nothing more.
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John Fallahee said:
This is exciting! This is why I started LearnLogos.com. Glad to see Logos recognizing the need.
Hi John;
Good to see you visit the board. [:)]
I enjoy your webinars and continue to look forward to each one of them.
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Sounds like a fantastic idea. Only wish my lectures at university had been available like this! I could have concentrated on the lecture content rather than note taking. I think it has a lot of potential. Price point will be interesting as I have the Greek and Hebrew videos I bought while on discount. Not sure I could have afforded them at the full price.
David
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I'd like to know more about this myself...
Is this a replacement to AM Bible Courseware; something similar to the "Charles Stanley Institute for Christian Living" they once offered online; or a full fledged seminary courseware engine inside Logos?
Nathan Parker
Visit my blog at http://focusingonthemarkministries.com
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Erwin, Thanks for your questions. I will give you some answers.
- Logos Mobile Ed is not an online course but rather a downloadable "curriculum resource," like a book. The difference is that this particular kind of "book" has the ability to initiate a video stream and also features on screen testing that accepts reader input. This new type of curriculum resource has attached, a Faithlife community note shared with everybody else who acquires the resource. The course becomes a permanent addition to your library. There is no need to ever forget this course content. It never goes away. It is searchable and links to the rest of your library.
- Initially courses will be seminary level courses targeted at people who's circumstances make it impractical or impossible to obtain a traditional seminary education. Could the courses be used for small groups or church institutes? Sure, why not?
- The courses will sell like Logos books as singles or bundles. There are about 100 courses in design and production. The prices are based on our cost to produce the product, but like all Logos products they represent a major savings over their traditional product format and they represent a new level of convenience and interactivity within the Logos ecosystem.
- When we make make the pre-publication offer there will be a web page with sample videos that illustrate the product.
- While we have accepted the role of curriculum designers, we have not become a degree granting institution. During the the past year of production word of our project has drifted into academic arena to the extent that several schools have asked us about incorporating these courses into their own distance ed programs. This will probably happen, offering people a path toward degree programs. Each school could add their own additional requirements and assignments. Our own focus is on education for people who just want or need to learn more. While our suggested course plans might look like an M. Div.program, they are not degree programs but rather opportunities to learn seminary/Bible college level materials in the Logos environment.
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As long as I am explaining things, I should add two important design philosophies in our courses. That is "usefulness for teaching and preaching" and "the skills to do further study on your own."
As we have flown in professors from various schools we have stressed to them the need to make the material applicable to teachers and preachers. Demonstrate how the information can be communicated to others. The second task is highly specialized. That is to learn how to apply your Logos skills to the material you are now studying. Learn to dig out the information just like the teacher did before you. So we have created a whole series of context based lessons which will teach you to use Logos for theology, church history, hermeneutics, etc. One of our forum menbers, Mark Barnes has become a major contributor in this area of practical application.
When a professor asks us to describe the program we say, "Think of this as vocational training for ministry." We expect that our users will already be serving in ministry and their desire for education is real and practical.
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I love what I'm hearing so far and am very excited. Not just as a possible customer, but down the road as a possible contributor once I'm more qualified for professor work.
Nathan Parker
Visit my blog at http://focusingonthemarkministries.com
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