New Feature: Send to Kindle

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  • Joshua Coady
    Joshua Coady Member Posts: 98 ✭✭

    I can confirm the first time you do it on PC it shows properly in the dropdown under Tools. After that it gets converted to search as shown by Dan above.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    I can confirm the first time you do it on PC it shows properly in the dropdown under Tools. After that it gets converted to search as shown by Dan above.

    I am seeing this too on Mac.

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  • Dan
    Dan Member Posts: 116 ✭✭

    I used the command once and after that the command disappeared. It is indeed a one time command.

    In my case, I never ran the command and it was not available on PC. I had to run the command for the first time on Mac. However, even now, I can rerun the command on Mac, but it says it failed (because I already ran it once).

  • Joshua Coady
    Joshua Coady Member Posts: 98 ✭✭

    I timed a 160 page book. It was about 2 min from the time I clicked the send to kindle link until it was on my device. Also, at that point it was available for download on other devices in the cloud tab (I have personal docs archiving turned on). I also get the book's real cover image, not a generic one.

    There is a hyperlinked table of contents within the document, immediately after the cover page.

    About the last half of the document is the full text of the scripture references that are linked to from within the book.

    In case it matters, this was on kindle for iphone and ipad. I got rid of my original kindle because I didnt use it enough -- I dont buy books from amazon. Now that Logos has this feature, I need to save up for a new one--I spend enough time staring at light radiating screens and am always looking for ways to reduce that.

  • Robin Porter
    Robin Porter Member Posts: 25 ✭✭

    Thank you!!! I love this new feature in Logos 6. Once I read through the instructions carefully and followed them thoroughly everything seems to be working beautifully. :-)

  • Stéphane Kapitaniuk
    Stéphane Kapitaniuk Member Posts: 40 ✭✭

    Mark,

    Does the "Send to Kindle" feature work for you? I still can't get it to work. The files are in "eternal upload status".

  • Stéphane Kapitaniuk
    Stéphane Kapitaniuk Member Posts: 40 ✭✭

    Alabama24,

    I would appreciate help debugging my setup. I'm using Logos 6 Gold and I cannot manage to send to Kindle. I already posted a message last week on this forum, but no one commented.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    but no one commented.

    Yes they did! You didnt respond. Here is the link: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/94570.aspx 

    EDIT: I see your post now. FYI - If you want help, you should always create a new thread, and not jump in on other ones. 

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  • Stephen Steele
    Stephen Steele Member Posts: 707 ✭✭

    Should the Table of Contents automatically work with all books sent to kindle? (If there is a working TOC in Logos?).

    It doesn't in:
    Short, David, and David Searle. Pastoral Visitation: A Pocket Manual. Fearn, UK: Christian Focus Publications, 2004.
    (but Bible references are hyperlinked ok)

    Is this a bug that needs to be flagged somewhere?

  • Josh Hunt
    Josh Hunt Member Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭

    The TOC didn't work in any of the books I sent to Kindle, making them impossible to navigate. 

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭

    Josh Hunt said:

    The TOC didn't work in any of the books I sent to Kindle, making them impossible to navigate. 

    That's strange. All my Logos-to-Kindle books so far have had working TOCs.  The working TOC is at the very beginning of the book (before after the cover image), on the same page where they add that anti-piracy bit ("For the person use of [Your Name] ([your email address) only. Not for redistribution.")

  • Joshua Coady
    Joshua Coady Member Posts: 98 ✭✭

    Try going to location 1. I think what is happening is Kindle skips you ahead automatically to the first page of text, which is a TOC from the book, but the linked TOC is placed before the cover page at the very beginning.

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭

    [Y] This is exactly what is happening.

    Try going to location 1. I think what is happening is Kindle skips you ahead automatically to the first page of text, which is a TOC from the book, but the linked TOC is placed before the cover page at the very beginning.

  • Stephen Steele
    Stephen Steele Member Posts: 707 ✭✭

    Try going to location 1. I think what is happening is Kindle skips you ahead automatically to the first page of text, which is a TOC from the book, but the linked TOC is placed before the cover page at the very beginning.

    [y] That works - thanks!

  • PMHorne
    PMHorne Member Posts: 6 ✭✭

    I have set up my acct and tried to send several books to kindle and they do not show up do you guys have any reasons why this may not be working?

    Paul

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Preach said:

    I have set up my acct and tried to send several books to kindle and they do not show up do you guys have any reasons why this may not be working?

    Can you confirm that you've done both steps 1 and 2?

    1. The Send to Kindle email address must end in kindle.com. You can check the address at Amazon.com > Manage Your Content and Devices > Your Devices.
    2. Also, you must add “noreply@logos.com” to your Approved Personal Document Email List at Amazon.com > Manage Your Content and Devices > Settings.

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭

    Preach said:

    I have set up my acct and tried to send several books to kindle and they do not show up do you guys have any reasons why this may not be working?

    Paul

    Just in case you're not aware of this, Amazon categorizes some books from Logos as documents rather than books.  None of the books I've sent have been seen as "books" by Amazon so they don't show up in my list of books.  Instead, Amazon has seen them all as documents and I can only see them when selecting "Docs" as the type of media to be displayed.  I don't know if that's the situation in your case, but if you weren't aware of that possibility and assuming the sends you've done have completed successfully (no error messages from Logos) you might want to check the "Docs" media type in your Kindle content area on Amazon and/or on your mobile device.

  • Brian McGinty
    Brian McGinty Member Posts: 5 ✭✭

    I have an old Kindle DX.  I have Whispernet Delivery disabled so that I don't have to pay any fees.  When I use Logos send to Kindle, the resources show up in my Amazon Cloud Drive.  I downloaded the file from Amazon Cloud Drive to my PC then copied it to my Kindle DX via USB.  It appears on my Kindle but I get a pop-up that says I can't open the file. 

    Is this because I didn't use Whispernet delivery?  Is there a way to copy the file to Kindle using a USB?

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Is this because I didn't use Whispernet delivery?

    No, but you don't need to use whispernet. Have you set up an email address for your device? When you do "send to kindle," it is supposed to send it there automatically. If you don't want to use whispernet, then you use wifi for the resource to be automatically delivered... The only thing I don't know: you said you have an "old" device. Perhaps old kindles can't do this? Does the device have an email associated with it?

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  • Brian McGinty
    Brian McGinty Member Posts: 5 ✭✭

    My Kindle DX is old.  It can do G3 with Whispernet or I can connect it to a computer with a USB.  It does not have wifi capability.

    My Kindle does have an email address associated with it.  On my Kindle I can see my device email, this matches the email I provided to Logos.  I don't think that is a problem because the Logos resources were able to transfer to the Amazon Cloud without any problems.  However, since I did not purchase the Logos resources from Amazon (I think that) Amazon will charge a small fee for me to use Whispernet to transfer them to my Kindle.  I tried to avoid that by downloading the files from Amazon Cloud directly to my Kindle. 

    They seem to download okay, I can view the title and book cover on my Kindle, but I can't open it.  I get a pop-up that says, "The selected item could not be opened.  If you purchased this item from Amazon, delete the item and redownload it from Archived Items available in Home."

    FYI:  This title doesn't appear in Archived Items because I didn't purchase it from Amazon.

    This error feels like there may be some sort of digital rights that are preventing me from opening the book.

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭

    Can't remember now and not at my computer to check but I think the files from the Cloud Dive download in AZW3 format; can the DX read that format or does it read just mobi/AZW? if you have Calibre, try converting the file to mobi format and try it again in the DX.

    For what it's worth, i don't think the error message has anything to do with rights; I don't think Amazon goes around putting DRM on our Personal Docs files.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    My Kindle DX is old.  It can do G3 with Whispernet or I can connect it to a computer with a USB.  It does not have wifi capability.

    Sorry, I don't know. It may be that your device will be unsupported... but I don't know for sure. I don't know how it works to transfer the documents manually like you are doing. Does your device connect to the internet when you plug it into your computer, or does it just work as a hard drive to transfer files? (Is your kindle email address worthless for the device since you aren't using whispernet?)

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  • JoshInRI
    JoshInRI Member Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭

    This is a wonderful new feature in 6.0 that deserves promotion and step by step simple instructions.

    I figured it out but it was quite a challenge from the notes in here.

    Can Logos (Faithlife) please devise a simpler method of doing it all and/or documenting please.

    Blessings and thanks,

    JoshInRI

  • Brian McGinty
    Brian McGinty Member Posts: 5 ✭✭

    Can't remember now and not at my computer to check but I think the files from the Cloud Dive download in AZW3 format; can the DX read that format or does it read just mobi/AZW?

    When I downloaded from Amazon Cloud the files were AZW format rather than AZW3 and my Kindle is compatible with AZW files so it seems like it should have worked.

    FYI:  I finally tried using Whispernet instead of downloading the files and it worked fine.  I just don't like paying Whispernet fees to get the books onto my Kindle.  The fees are small but I would rather not pay them if I could find a way to do it with a USB cable instead. 

  • Brian McGinty
    Brian McGinty Member Posts: 5 ✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    My Kindle DX is old.  It can do G3 with Whispernet or I can connect it to a computer with a USB.  It does not have wifi capability.

    Sorry, I don't know. It may be that your device will be unsupported... but I don't know for sure. I don't know how it works to transfer the documents manually like you are doing. Does your device connect to the internet when you plug it into your computer, or does it just work as a hard drive to transfer files? (Is your kindle email address worthless for the device since you aren't using whispernet?)

    My Kindle works like a hard drive when I connect via USB to my computer.  I tried downloading the files from Amazon Cloud directly to my Kindle, as if the Kindle was just a hard drive on my computer but I still couldn't open the books. 

    I finally gave up on the USB and tried using Whispernet and it worked fine, although I had to pay a small fee.  Not being able to use a USB seems to be an Amazon problem rather than a Logos problem so I might check with Amazon and see if they have any ideas. 

    Thanks for your help everyone!

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭

    When I downloaded from Amazon Cloud the files were AZW format rather than AZW3 and my Kindle is compatible with AZW files so it seems like it should have worked.

    When I download from the Cloud drive, the book shows in AZW format but when I bring it into Calibre, it shows up as AZW3, so now I have no idea what is what.

    FYI:  I finally tried using Whispernet instead of downloading the files and it worked fine.  I just don't like paying Whispernet fees to get the books onto my Kindle.  The fees are small but I would rather not pay them if I could find a way to do it with a USB cable instead. 

    I haven't had a 3G Kindle in a while but, IIRC, Amazon used to have an option where you could either turn off the option to use Whispernet or tell it it couldn't charge you more than $0.00 for using it. I looked around and don't see that anymore; I don't know if it's been removed.  Also, Amazon used to have to separate a separate Kindle email address with the word "free" in it, to differentiate from the one where they would charge Whispernet fees.  I don't see anything like that anymore ???  I hardly use a Kindle device or app these days, so I haven't been keeping up with the changes Amazon has been making.  My Paperwhite (wifi-only) is more of a paperweight these days, and I mostly use the Kindle iOS app to see the number of locations in a book.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    My Paperwhite (wifi-only) is more of a paperweight these days

    i would be more than glad to take it off your hands. [;)]

    i LOVE my iPad and hope to get a new one "soon". When I read books I want to highlight, I use the logos Bible! App for iOS. When I want to read a book without such encumbrance, I use the plain Jane kindle I have. It would be nice to be able to read in the dark though. 

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  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    My Paperwhite (wifi-only) is more of a paperweight these days

    i would be more than glad to take it off your hands. Wink

    i LOVE my iPad and hope to get a new one "soon". When I read books I want to highlight, I use the logos Bible! App for iOS. When I want to read a book without such encumbrance, I use the plain Jane kindle I have. It would be nice to be able to read in the dark though. 

    I've had offers but I keep it for the odd day I decide I want to read while I'm out in the sun (beach-side/pool-side). It hasn't happened in years but I know as soon as I pass it on, I'll be going "if only I had my Paperwhite" [8-)]  

    I had been planning to get a new iPad as well but with the L6 upgrade and all, that's pushed back for now. My current iPad is only 32GB and I need more space so I can keep more Logos resources on it.  Most of my reading is done via my favorite reading app, Marvin - the highlighting and sharing capabilities are great and I love it to bits. Of course, now that I finally have a base package, I find myself using the Logos app a lot more than I ever did.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    My current iPad is only 32GB and I need more space so I can keep more Logos resources on it.

    It is STRONGLY recommended that you don't... You should be very judicious in your downloaded resource list.

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  • Joshua Coady
    Joshua Coady Member Posts: 98 ✭✭

    iirc, all kindles have wifi and so you should be able to get it free via wifi and not need to use whispernet unless you are in a location that does not have wifi. I can think of a couple ways for this to work:

    1. Use the "free" kindle email address that only delivers via wifi. To do this, take your normal kindle email address and change @kindle.com to @free.kindle.com . I couldnt find the Amazon docs on this, so dont know if they allow it anymore, but worth a try.

    2. In your Kindle settings on the Amazon website, under the Whispernet Delivery Options, there should be an option to set a charge limit per delivery. If they allow you to set this to $0.00 it would for wifi only delivery.

    3. If you have another device, like an ipod, iphone, ipad, android phone, basically any i-device or android, install the Kindle app. This will create an email address for that device. In your Kindle settings on the Amazon Website, make sure personal document archiving is turned on. Use the email address for this device. No whispernet fee because it's not a kindle 3G device. The point of this was to get the document archived. Now you should be able to go to any Kindle device on your account and download the document from the cloud because it is stored in your personal cloud archive.

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    My current iPad is only 32GB and I need more space so I can keep more Logos resources on it.

    It is STRONGLY recommended that you don't... You should be very judicious in your downloaded resource list.

    By "more" I don't mean ALL! Yes, I learnt this the hard way. I tried to download EVERYTHING, which was not only impossible, but took up just about all my space as well. I had to remove everything (that was fun!) and decide on what I really couldn't do without, which for now are mostly lots of commentaries. 

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭

    iirc, all kindles have wifi ...

    I had a cursory look-around and it doesn't look like the Kindle DX model ever got wifi.

  • Joshua Coady
    Joshua Coady Member Posts: 98 ✭✭

    iirc, all kindles have wifi ...

    I had a cursory look-around and it doesn't look like the Kindle DX model ever got wifi.

    You are right. Looks like 3G was just part of the package until the Kindle 3 was introduced with a reduced cost wifi only option. I guess I just took free 3G for granted on my 1st gen and came to think of it as wifi. I no longer have it so I was just going from (imperfect) memory. [8-|]

    So, in all of my ideas for 3G only Kindles, you'll need to replace transfer via wifi with download to computer and transfer via usb. Note that using the @free.kindle.com email address delivers the document as an attachment to you via email so you can download and transfer via usb. I did find a reference to it here so it should still be an active option: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=help_search_1-1?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200375910&qid=1416244881&sr=1-1

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭

    My Kindle works like a hard drive when I connect via USB to my computer.  I tried downloading the files from Amazon Cloud directly to my Kindle, as if the Kindle was just a hard drive on my computer but I still couldn't open the books. 

    I finally gave up on the USB and tried using Whispernet and it worked fine, although I had to pay a small fee.  Not being able to use a USB seems to be an Amazon problem rather than a Logos problem so I might check with Amazon and see if they have any ideas. 

    Thanks for your help everyone!

    I did a little testing on this. From the Amazon Cloud drive I downloaded one of the Logos books and transferred it to my Paperwhite via USB; I got the same message as you ("The selected item could not be opened.  If you purchased this item from Amazon, delete the item and redownload it from Archived Items available in Home."). Yet it opens up with no issues in the Kindle for PC app, so the problem is not DRM-related.

    I then converted the file to the .mobi format (using Calibre) and transferred it again to the Paperwhite; it opened up this time with no error message. So I'm thinking it's a format issue.  If contacting Amazon yields nothing and you want to avoid the Whispernet fees, you should consider using Calibre to convert the files before transferring them to the DX.

  • Brian McGinty
    Brian McGinty Member Posts: 5 ✭✭

    My Kindle works like a hard drive when I connect via USB to my computer.  I tried downloading the files from Amazon Cloud directly to my Kindle, as if the Kindle was just a hard drive on my computer but I still couldn't open the books. 

    I finally gave up on the USB and tried using Whispernet and it worked fine, although I had to pay a small fee.  Not being able to use a USB seems to be an Amazon problem rather than a Logos problem so I might check with Amazon and see if they have any ideas. 

    Thanks for your help everyone!

    I did a little testing on this. From the Amazon Cloud drive I downloaded one of the Logos books and transferred it to my Paperwhite via USB; I got the same message as you ("The selected item could not be opened.  If you purchased this item from Amazon, delete the item and redownload it from Archived Items available in Home."). Yet it opens up with no issues in the Kindle for PC app, so the problem is not DRM-related.

    I then converted the file to the .mobi format (using Calibre) and transferred it again to the Paperwhite; it opened up this time with no error message. So I'm thinking it's a format issue.  If contacting Amazon yields nothing and you want to avoid the Whispernet fees, you should consider using Calibre to convert the files before transferring them to the DX.

    I found a way that works where I can download via USB.

    If I download from Amazon Cloud to me Kindle via USB then I won't be able to open the file on my Kindle, even though I can view the book title and a picture of the book cover on my Kindle.  The file looks like it transferred okay and it is AZW format.

    However, when I use Logos to send-to-Kindle then Amazon auto sends me an email saying, Your Amazon Kindle Document is here.  If I download from the hyperlink in that email to my Kindle via USB then it works fine.  

    That is an easy solution.  My problem is solved.  Thank you everyone for your help! 

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭

    I found a way that works where I can download via USB.

    If I download from Amazon Cloud to me Kindle via USB then I won't be able to open the file on my Kindle, even though I can view the book title and a picture of the book cover on my Kindle.  The file looks like it transferred okay and it is AZW format.

    However, when I use Logos to send-to-Kindle then Amazon auto sends me an email saying, Your Amazon Kindle Document is here.  If I download from the hyperlink in that email to my Kindle via USB then it works fine.  

    That is an easy solution.  My problem is solved.  Thank you everyone for your help! 

    Great news! Enjoy [:)]

  • William Boles
    William Boles Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    How do I change the send to Kindle email address in L6 I have a typo in the email.

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭

    How do I change the send to Kindle email address in L6 I have a typo in the email.

    Can't be changed by users; you have to contact Customer Service to get it done.

  • PMHorne
    PMHorne Member Posts: 6 ✭✭

    Thanks Mark, I hadn't setup the email to be allowed and that seems to have worked. THANKS!! 

  • James Hiddle
    James Hiddle Member Posts: 792 ✭✭

    Can you send Kindle books to Logos or just Logos to Kindle?

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭

    Can you send Kindle books to Logos or just Logos to Kindle?

    Officially, only Logos to Kindle.  There are ways to send your Kindle books to Logos but that would involve breaking the DRM, which may not be legal in some jurisdictions.

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    How do you send a book from Logos to Kindle?

    The first post in this thread gives the explanation. You should be aware, however, that this feature is currently down due to server issues at Logos.

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  • Richard
    Richard Member Posts: 103 ✭✭

    When I try to link my account, I get the message "failed to link account". The logs show a problem POSTing to https://sendtokindleapi.logos.com/... When I try to do a post manually with no body, I get a 503 back. I can post the logs if needed, but thought this would probably be enough.

    $ curl -XPOST https://sendtokindleapi.logos.com/v1/account
    <html><body><h1>503 Service Unavailable</h1>
    No server is available to handle this request.
    </body></html>

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  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭

    Is anyone able to send a resource to Kindle and have it show up in Amazon as a book rather than a document?  I've tried a few resources but they all show up in Amazon as documents, they all have a generic icon vs. their book-cover icons, and non can be delivered to my phone to be read using the Kindle app as can be done with my regular Kindle books.

  • Joshua Coady
    Joshua Coady Member Posts: 98 ✭✭

    They all show up as documents for me, but on my phone, they do show up and with their cover image and not a generic icon.

    Maybe try hitting the menu button in the upper right. There are options there to filter your library by Books, Docs, or to view All Items.

    From what I understand, the only way Amazon allows 3rd parties to add books to your Kindle collection is as personal documents. I also have some programming books that are delivered this way, so I just leave my filter on All Items and otherwise forget they are personal docs.

  • Stephen Steele
    Stephen Steele Member Posts: 707 ✭✭

    Has anyone tried this out with a Kindle Voyage? Looks like there are some compatibility issues with books that work on other kindle devices.

  • John Petras
    John Petras Member Posts: 9 ✭✭

    This thread,  (instruction for sending books to Kindle)…please amplify some on the points I raise under heading “HOW IT WORKS”…(my comments in bold), 

    After linking your Kindle account information with your Logos account, you can send individual books to your Kindle device from the resource panel menu (within the software).  (This was possibly done, I don’t see how but, I was able to send docs to my kindle…perhaps linkage is not complete?) All bible references should open in the Lexham English Bible. (This, correct me if I’m wrong. means to have LEB as primary bible while sending books to Kindle)

    A kindle.com email address must be assigned to the account (where?, in what account?) by entering “set kindle to #####@kindle.com” into the command box. (where is it?) Note: You cannot unlink your Kindle account once it has been linked. (Perhaps I haven’t done this step in linkage, I do not see the “Send to Kindle” option in his screenshot next to downloads) Please be sure to check your kindle.com address carefully before submitting. (I don’t see how this is done. Would you send short explanation or screen shot?)

    Thanking you with

    Blessings,

    John

  • Stephen Steele
    Stephen Steele Member Posts: 707 ✭✭

    Should send to kindle work automatically with new products? Eg it doesn't seem to be enabled for Luther's works upgrade 2 which was released in the last week or two.