Complete works of J.I. Packer
I know it's been suggested before, and Logos does already have a few of Packer's works, but I couldn't find a comprehensive list of them on any of the suggestions forums, and I'd like a product manager to take ownership of getting these, so I'm posting it here (Packer is an Anglican after all).
Already available in Logos:
- Concise Theology
- God’s Will: Finding Guidance for Everyday Decisions
- Grounded in the Gospel: Building Believers the Old-Fashioned Way (with Gary A. Parrett)
- Keep in Step with the Spirit: Finding Fullness in Our Walk with God, rev. ed.
- J. I. Packer and the Evangelical Future: The Impact of His Life and Thought
- A Quest for Godliness
- A Passion for Faithfulness
- Growing in Christ
- The New Bible Dictionary, Third Edition (one of the editors)
- Illustrated Manners and Customs of the Bible (one of the editors)
- A Grief Sanctified: Through Sorrow to Eternal Hope (Vyrso)
- Keeping the Ten Commandments (Vyrso)
- Affirming the Apostles' Creed (Vyrso)
Not yet in Logos (most important ones at the top; the rest listed alphabetically):
- Knowing God (*** most important ***)
- Celebrating the Saving Work of God: Collected Shorter Writings of J.I. Packer, Volume 1
- Serving the People of God: Collected Shorter Writings of J.I. Packer, Volume 2
- Honouring the Written Word of God: Collected Shorter Writings of J.I. Packer, Volume 3
- Honouring the People of God: Collected Shorter Writings of J.I. Packer, Volume 4
- "Fundamentalism" and the Word of God
- God Has Spoken: Revelation and the Bible
- Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God
- Weakness Is the Way: Life with Christ Our Strength
- Keep in Step with the Spirit: Finding Fullness in Our Walk with God
- Knowing Christianity
- Praying: Finding Our Way Through Duty to Delight
- Praying the Lord's Prayer
- God's Will: Finding Guidance for Everyday Decisions (with Carolyn Nystrom)
- Christianity: The True Humanism (with Thomas Howard)
- Rediscovering Holiness: Know the Fullness of Life with God
- Puritan Portraits: J.I. Packer on selected Classic Pastors and Pastoral Classics
- 18 Words: The Most Important Words You Will Ever Know
- Alive to God: Studies in Spirituality Presented to James Houston (editor, along with Loren Wilkinson)
- An Introduction to Covenant Theology
- Anglican Evangelical Identity: Yesterday and Today (with N.T. Wright)
- Decisions: Finding God's Will
- Engaging the Written Word of God
- Evangelical Influences: Profiles of Key Figures and Movements Rooted in the Reformation
- Evangelism: A Biblical Response to Today's Questions
- Faithfulness and Holiness
- Finishing Our Course with Joy: Guidance from God for Engaging with Our Aging
- God in Our Midst: Seeking and Receiving Ongoing Revival
- God Speaks to Man: Revelation and the Bible
- God's Plans for You
- God's Words: Key Bible Themes You Need to Know
- Great Grace: A 31-Day Devotional (Lifethemes)
- Great Joy: A 31-Day Devotional (Lifethemes Series)
- Great Power: A 31-Day Devotional (Lifethemes Series)
- Guard Us, Guide Us: Divine Leading in Life's Decisions (with Carolyn Nystrom)
- Guidance and Wisdom
- Here We Stand: Justification by Faith Today (J.I. Packer and others)
- Hot Tub Religion: Christian Living in a Materialistic World
- I Want to be a Christian
- In God's Presence
- In My Place Condemned He Stood: Celebrating the Glory of the Atonement (with Mark Dever)
- Keep Yourselves from Idols
- Knowing and Doing the Will of God
- Knowing God's Purpose for Your Life: 365 Daily Inspirations for Living a Life of Purpose
- Life in the Spirit: A 30-Day Devotional
- Never Beyond Hope: How God Touches & Uses Imperfect People (with Carolyn Nystrom)
- One Faith: The Evangelical Consensus
- Power Religion: The Selling Out of the Evangelical Church? (with Charles Colson, R.C. Sproul, and Alister McGrath)
- Rediscovering Holiness
- Revelations of the Cross
- Seeing God in the Dark: Unraveling the Mysteries of Holy Living
- Sola Fide: The Reformed Doctrine of Justification
- Spirit Within You
- Taking God Seriously: Vital Things We Need to Know
- The Apostles' Creed
- The Logic of Penal Substitution
- The Plan of God
- The Thirty-nine Articles: Their Place and Use Today (with R.T. Beckwith)
- Truth & Power: The Place of Scripture in the Christian Life
- Your Father Loves You: Daily Insights for Knowing God
And not by him, but in honor of him:
- Doing Theology for the People of God: Studies in Honor of J.I. Packer (edited by Donald M. Lewis and Alister E. McGrath)
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I thought it was so important to have Knowing God in Logos that I made it a personal book. But I'd love to have an official version along with every word that man has penned.
He is also working on a Systematic Theology. If/When he finished that, I would love for that to be in Logos right away.
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Knowing God has just turned 40. It's really important that Logos get the rights back for that!
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/december-web-only/knowing-god-turns-40.html
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+1[Y] for all Rosie's suggestions!
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Rosie Perera said:
Knowing God has just turned 40. It's really important that Logos get the rights back for that!
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/december-web-only/knowing-god-turns-40.html
Both Knowing God and Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God are important Packer books that are not in Logos, and they're both IVP books. IVP sometimes seems like they don't want to sell their books in Logos. They already have a relationship with Logos, yet classics like these stay missing.
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It's not Knowing God but it's more Packer: https://www.logos.com/product/38047/crossway-j-i-packer-collection-upgrade
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Ben Amundgaard said:
It's not Knowing God but it's more Packer: https://www.logos.com/product/38047/crossway-j-i-packer-collection-upgrade
That's very nice, but no fair putting 7 books together in a collection, 3 of which are already available in Vyrso (and I own them) and making that the only way you can get the 4 new books. Normally we do not have to pay for books that get upgraded from Vyrso to Logos editions if we already own them. So this is a sneaky way of getting those of us who already own them to pay for the upgrades of those 3 books.
What if I want to buy just the 4 books that were not previously available? (Personally I couldn't care less about having the other ones upgraded to Logos editions. The Bible reference links work fine already in them as eBook editions.)
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Awesome work as always, Rosie. Thank you,
-Beloved
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
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Rosie Perera said:
That's very nice, but no fair putting 7 books together in a collection, 3 of which are already available in Vyrso
Especially when lots of people only bought those books this week as part of Vyrso's Christmas sale....
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And Logos have always said you don't pay twice for a book...and two of the three are extracts from Growing in Christ so a lot of the work is already done for these two 'shorts'. And for some users who already owned Growing in Christ, but picked up the bundle the vyrso bundle the other day because of other material in the bundle you will actually be charging them a third time for the same material!
Mark Barnes said:Rosie Perera said:That's very nice, but no fair putting 7 books together in a collection, 3 of which are already available in Vyrso
Especially when lots of people only bought those books this week as part of Vyrso's Christmas sale....
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I'm going to look into the issues of this a little bit further and get y'all some concrete answers. However, I just wanted to respond to one issue:
Rosie Perera said:this is a sneaky way of getting those of us who already own them to pay for the upgrades of those 3 book
I can assure you, as the person who worked on putting this collection together, that there was nothing sneaky about it. I have been working off of a larger list of titles (located here) trying to get everything I can into Logos. In this case, I missed that 3 of these titles were already in Vyrso. I also didn't realize that Vyrso was going to put them on sale just a few days before I put them on pre-order.
I tried to be as open about this collection as I can. When I realized that three of the books in the collection were actually extracts from a book we already had, I made sure that the product page reflected this so that people would know what was going on.
I'm sorry if I sound a little defensive, but I want to be clear that I will never try to "sneak" anything by you. I hope I haven't done anything in the past that makes it seem like I would. If something seems this way, I would appreciate if the first response was assuming it was just a mistake or an oversight on my part rather than a deliberate attempt to circumvent our policy and get you to pay for the same book more than once.
I'm going to see what I can do about getting this collection broken up. I'll post more as I find out more.
Senior Director, Content Products
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Thanks Ben, your efforts are greatly appreciated. The forums sometimes tempt people into being a little more liberal with their thoughts than they would be face to face. I am sure that many would agree with me that even in the cases where something inconsistent has happened with pricing of resources, Logos has always been true to their policy that customers only pay once, and if any doubt side with the customer. Cheers.
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Ben Amundgaard said:
I hope I haven't done anything in the past that makes it seem like I would.
Not you personally, to the best of my knowledge, but Logos certainly has. Many times.
Take a look at the Baker Academic Early Church Collection (13 vols.), for example. Two or three of those books used to be in Vyrso, yet, as far as I know, there is no discount for those who already own them. When it was brought up here on the forums a year or so ago, there was either no answer, or a flat out refusal of a discount.
Or the Steve Ray Collection (2 vols.). One of the two books was recently included in one or more of the Verbum+ packages, yet no way has been added to buy the remaining one without paying a second time for the first. (I just e-mailed Andrew about this, so hopefully it'll change.)
And I have quite a few books in my wishlist that I can't buy without paying twice, since there is no dynamic pricing.
So, sorry, but I for one has learnt to take Logos' "never pay twice" with at least a spoonful of salt.[:(]
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Ben Amundgaard said:
I'm going to look into the issues of this a little bit further and get y'all some concrete answers. However, I just wanted to respond to one issue:
Rosie Perera said:this is a sneaky way of getting those of us who already own them to pay for the upgrades of those 3 book
I can assure you, as the person who worked on putting this collection together, that there was nothing sneaky about it. I have been working off of a larger list of titles (located here) trying to get everything I can into Logos. In this case, I missed that 3 of these titles were already in Vyrso. I also didn't realize that Vyrso was going to put them on sale just a few days before I put them on pre-order.
I tried to be as open about this collection as I can. When I realized that three of the books in the collection were actually extracts from a book we already had, I made sure that the product page reflected this so that people would know what was going on.
I'm sorry if I sound a little defensive, but I want to be clear that I will never try to "sneak" anything by you. I hope I haven't done anything in the past that makes it seem like I would. If something seems this way, I would appreciate if the first response was assuming it was just a mistake or an oversight on my part rather than a deliberate attempt to circumvent our policy and get you to pay for the same book more than once.
I'm going to see what I can do about getting this collection broken up. I'll post more as I find out more.
I'm very sorry, Ben. I need to be more careful in my word choice. I was saying all that with a smile and a teasing tone of voice in my mind, but of course that doesn't come across in writing. Teasing is risky online even with the best of friends, and I don't really know you that well. So you couldn't possibly have known my lighthearted attitude and cheerful demeanor in posting that. I was not intending to slam you at all. So, many apologies for coming across that way.
It would be great if you can get this collection broken up. I do appreciate all the work you're doing in getting Packer's works, and am also sorry that when I posted my long list above I'd forgotten that you already had posted such a list and were already at work on it. My memory isn't that great these days.
EDIT: Also, to be quite honest, the price of $54.95 would be worth it to me even to just gain four more of his books. So if you can't split the collection up, I would still order it. But I did want to make sure that Logos's normal intention of offering the best possible price to those who already have some of the books in a collection gets a chance to be realized.
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Thanks Ben:
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Rosie Perera said:
'm very sorry, Ben.
No worries, Rosie! [:D] I totally get the tone-of-voice issue with the forms (and FB, Twitter, etc.), I'm often guilty of not being careful enough with my words. I should probably have given YOU the benefit of the doubt that you were teasing!
Rosie Perera said:It would be great if you can get this collection broken up.
I'm waiting to hear on a couple options we're thinking about to deal with this situation. I'll post something here as soon as I know.
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Fundamentalism and the Word of God is finally on pre-pub.
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Mark Barnes said:
Fundamentalism and the Word of God is finally on pre-pub.
[Y] That was one of the first books of Packer's I read (after Knowing God). Good to see it in pre-pub.
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This title is included in the following collections
You can save when you purchase this product as part of a collection.
- Eerdmans Ultimate Collection 2...$26,110.99$23,137.29
Couldn't help but laugh at seeing this [:O]
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Ray Timmermans said:
You can save when you purchase this product as part of a collection.....
Eerdmans Ultimate Collection 2... $26,110.99 $23,137.29
LOL! Think of it! Save $2 or 3 by spending $23,000+!
Reminds me of the cartoon strip Blondie, how she was always "saving" lots of money by going on shopping binges during sales.
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J. I. Packer Complete Collection should an essential for Logos Bible Software.
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