Infographics: Your thoughts?

You should have a beta version of the Logos Bible Software Infographics resource. What do you think? Good idea? Enough topical coverage, or should we have more? Are they okay for PowerPoint, or do we need to customize them even further for that format?

(Have you tried right-click on a graphic to save or send to PowerPoint?)

First reaction: Way cool!  And from what I've seen accurate!

For example after teaching for years on the Armor of God and Paul's likely source material being a regular old Roman soldier, I weary of seeing graphics with Roman Commanders armor or even of non-Roman armor. (Or of armor with no backs and the argument that "this is proof that God doesn't want us to retreat!"  Whatever...    But here you go on the first item is a proper first century Roman foot soldier's armor, including a proper Lorica Segmentata/breastplate and scutum/shield with a note about rear protection!  Thank you for accuracy!  I haven't looked at all other graphics yet but that simple observation bolsters my confidence in everything else this resource will hold.

Testing:

I love that you can left click and drag left or right and the next pic in line shows up.  That is another great interface move.  HOWEVER.... I have a mouse with a wheel that tilts to send signals.  It would be nice if the tilt of the wheel caused the pictures to change pages too.  (Also rolling the mouse wheel has no effect.)

Right clicking  Must be a bug because it isn't working. (logs attached.)  However I have some concern over the graphic sizes for export to powerpoint and a further observation.  The typical view of most of the graphics is portrait, whereas powerpoint is typically landscape.  That distinction should be noted, and if necessary changed.  Also the text is likely to be extremely too small for powerpoint presentation.  Here's an example:

The Biblical units and measurments page, if presented as one graphic for powerpoint would be too hard to see, but if each of the four measurements represented were a single slide for powerpoint, well then you have something useful.  Just a thought.

My concern is that I do not use powerpoint.  I use OpenOffice.org Impress which writes and reads PPT files just fine without costing me an arm and a leg.  I know you do not have to support every rogue piece of software out there, but I'm concerned that the right click export to powerpoint may not work with impress, and I'm hoping that a working right click will enable me to simply copy the graphic to the clipboard for pasting into my program of choice.

Now then as for the question, Is it enough?  Of course not.  :-)  We always want more, but this is a great resource.

And that is my 2¢

Looks great - good for teaching purposes.

I don't have a right click menu with Save options though.

I love this resource .  I didn't realise there were arrows on the left and right side

 to move to the next page is there a way you could make these more visible somehow

You can also click in the resource and drag left or right to move from one graphic to another.

Btw, the context menu issue has been reported.

Melissa

Very nice!

More of the same please!

And of course...the right-click ability [:D]

From what can be seen of the graphics provided, they appear to be a valuable new addition to the Logos product. Personally, I hope that there are many more to come. I would be happy to pay for add-on packs of graphics related to different subject matters or books of the bible. 

What sort of rights do we the end users have in the reproduction of these graphics? I can't find any extra information about permissions related to print or display.

Is alphabetic ordering the best way to present these? Would it be better to order these according to book of the bible?

Well done and here's hoping for more.... 

Bob,

I just love the Infographics. I have had only a short amount of time to play with it this evening, but throughly enjoy it. I love the graphics and the ease of right-clicking to save or to send to PowerPoint. I did just a quick search for "Herod's Temple," and loved the results! Thanks so much for this addition. It will definitely add in my personal study, as well in my preparation to teach!

Charlene

One thing that I forgot to mention, but it would seem like, if you had the table of contents opened, and you had a graphic highlighted in the left pane, by pressing the down arrow, you would go to the next graphic. However, instead you went down a bit on the page in the right pane. Oops! I just found out that it does work this way in the Infographics. It was when I was in the 1000 Images, that this did not work.

Charlene

I, also like this feature very much!

Nothing happens when I right click the image, but if I left click the image and then do a Ctrl C (on Windows), it is saved to the clipboard.  I was able to paste it into a Word 2007 document.

Mike Kahler

Bible Believer's Baptist Fellowship Elder

What sort of rights do we the end users have in the reproduction of these graphics? I can't find any extra information about permissions related to print or display.

 

Very nice. Of course, we'd all like many more. The graphics in the ESV study Bible are quite good. If they aren't going to be in that resource when produced, they'd be a nice addition.

 

I think they should be there. If I am not wrong Logos 4 has a feature to gather all our graphics and show them on one place. After ESV SB comes, we should be able to see them there.

My suggestion would be to have more libraries available for purchase,

Don't listen to him Bob...give um for free....[:D]

Well...that's what I was thinking....I didn't want to be too forward!

1 Tim. 5:18...Stink.

These are helpful. Work wonderfully with Office 2007.

In general:

I would love to see more chart for every major narrative section of the Old & New Testament.

In specific:

Need a Jewish calendar

Need a Jewish counting of the Day (helpful for the counting of Jesus' death to resurrection)

Different organization schemes of the Books of the Bible ( jewish, appocrhypha, etc..)

Feasts of Israel and connection to the NT (passover, etc.)

Cities of Refuge

Routes of the Exodus

Phophets/Judges locations aligned with the Kings location

Major Characters aligned with Prophets and Kings so you know who was in authority and was proclaiming God's Word

More Kingdoms of the Bible with Geography and timeline and major ruler, including Herod's family tree (see www.biblemaps.com)

Journey in the Bible (Abraham, Conquest, Jonah, Christ, Paul, etc..) (see www.biblemaps.com)

Secular people coinciding with the Bible People (see http://www.hyperhistory.com/online_n2/History_n2/a.html)

Wars in the Bible

Census statistics of Israel through various passages, showing the growth of the nation through time

Numbers in the bible = 40 days in the flood, 40 days of moses, 40 days of christ, etc..

Miscellaneous

Calendar/Timeline integrated into the passage guide so when I run the verse it tells me the month I am in and possibly the year when knowable

Show the passage of time in the various books

1.       Genesis: Date of Events: from Creation to the Death of Joseph (1805 B. C.)

2.  Exodus:   The Date of Events:  from Jacob’s entrance into Egypt  (1876 B. C.) to the

BONUS:

Show how long some one lived in the Biblical people report

I can think of more, but these come to my mind immediately.

Thanks,

John Fallahee

Other Resources to Draw from:

#1) Nelson's complete books of maps, charts

#2) It would be really helpful if the archaelogical magazines were integrated into these via topical or biblical cross reference

#3)

I have no idea what this is, nothing comes up in library and no reference to it in help file either.

Here's the resource:

Here's an example:

Still can't find it Phil... Frank can you post a screen shot of it showing up in the library i.e. what is the title because Infographics yields nothing.  I also tried Logos Bible Software Infographics that I can see in Phils screen dump and that yields nothing... is this something that was included as part of the orginal downloads or something added later as an update and that I would not pick up since I have synch turned off because it is not working properly for me because of timezone issues ... I'm clutching at straws here as to what's going on because I can not see this or timelines for that matter.....

I found it, Andrew.  There's a depiction of Herod's Temple on the Home Page today which has LBSI in the lower right corner.  When you click on it, sure enough, you get a larger image which has "Overview" at the top.  If you click on that you get all of the images. 

I have a suggestion regarding two of these.  It has two images comparing the New Jerusalem to the size of the United States (almost identical).  The better comparison would be to the size of the Roman Empire of the time.