Markups & Highlighting

Add my voice positively to this discussion. I'm reading this year through the ESV Study Bible on my ipod touch (still waiting for any Logos version) with the Kindle app, though I also have it in OliveTree. Kindle at least allows me to highlight in the notes and articles. (I'm not promoting Kindle!) I'd love to be able to do that with L4, offline on my ipod, then sync. Maybe someday soon?

To be able to easily send notes (selected text) to Evernote would be a great feature, in both the iPhone app and the desktop apps for both Windows and Mac.

Add my vote.

Bob, what if you select the text and then do a hold so a menu pops up. First would be a menu item that would just highlight and would default to last used. Then you could  list two other most recently used below that and fourth item be a palette that picks from all the highlight/markup items available.

Bob Pritchett said:

Highlighting and notes are both planned, but I don't have a delivery date.

Bob, a roadmap or some sort of communication from Logos on where the feature set on the iPhone would be greatly appreciated. There are a lot of suggestions and comments on the forums but not much feedback from Logos as to what the plans actually are. I'm not asking for dates, but know where we are going to end up would be helpful.

As a faithful Logos iPhone app user I hate to say this, but the Olive Tree Reader iPhone app is very well designed and has an impressive list of features - not to mention a very usable interface. Personally, I would make constant use of the following features on the Logos iPhone app (assuming the appropriate items synced to the regular software!!!!!!):

1. Notes (sync)
2. Highlighting/visual markup (sync)
3. Bookmarks (sync)
4. Split-screen usability/reading
5. Text and background color adjustment
6. Offline searching, Passage Guide, Bible Word Study, etc. usage

I realize this is a long list of features that will require significant effort get up and running, but I believe they are all extremely valuable! 

As always, the Logos team continues to do an amazing job! Keep up the awesome work!

Dan Sheppard said:

I agree that expediting the availability of it is most important, in contrast to getting all the colors, lines, etc.  Those are secondary.

agreed [Y] +1

Dan Sheppard said:

...emulate that large Seattle bookstore online, which came up with an e-reader which rhymes with "spindle"....

LOL [:D]

Dan Sheppard said:

...Once chosen, since you have two points on screen, it knows to bring up the menu of  TWO selections: notes or highlight...."

This would seem to be the sticking point. Currently a click and hold 'selects' a word and offers [search the Bible for] and [Bible Word Study on]. A quick tap is the "info / toolbar" screen, although it seems a downward swipe will also achieve this.  Is it possible that a quick tap would then perform the typical iPhone select (with the handles around a word), then the contextual menu that ususally pops us is "select all / copy / paste", whereby it could be "add note / add highlight"?

I hope this makes sense.....thinking out loud.

Bob, there is one Bible app I use now for my iPhone (while waiting for functionality and key Bibles in Logos [:)]) that I think does multicolor highlighting brilliantly.  It also has a really great way of doing Strongs inline that really has a great workflow feel to it.

If you are interested in knowing the name, feel free to contact me and I will send the name of the app offline.

Ed Stone

I agree with Peter... one simple highlighter should be sufficient first time around. Even in the L4 I only use one highlighter, so I don't need multiple options, though I understand why some would.

But the important thing in addition to highlighting is making sure it syncs to the computer.

I haven't purchased logos yet and have some questions about the markups & highlighting. I am on a Mac (praying the Mac version at least makes it to beta soon!) and it's important for me to sync my highlights, notes, and precept markups to my iPad. 

Are you guys saying that those features are not in Logos 4?

or that they don't sync to iphone/ipad? 

or both?

thanks

OK that is a question I have had and could not find answers too.  I also have other iPhone Bible software that will allow me to do that but not in Logos.  To be honest, I was thinking about having an iPad and using that inside of my laptop.  I could use it for reading the bible, comparing translations on verses, have my notes and my sermon.  Would be great if you could just create a link in the message, hit it and it would turn to that page in the Bible.  Has anyone been able to do that yet?

I didn't know you could do that.  I HATE the new home page and wish it was more like the old 3 version.  I am so lost on 4.  I was thinking it would be so nice to have a bible open, have my notes there as well.. and for my next point, just click on a link and it will take me to my next note and verse.   I am not so much caring about iPhone as I am for i Pad. However after looking at HP's possible pad, slate or whatever, I think that maybe worth waiting for.  I should be able to install the full software and it will have a USB 2 port as well as a camera and WiFi and 64 gb drive.  Will run windows 7 and be like a laptop with just the screen.  That would be nice to be able to put the whole program on.  But anyway.. I am more interested in the i Pad and since they do not have a forum for that, I figured someone may know.

Just adding my $.02 to the discussion. At first I really wanted my notes to sync to the iPhone app. It would be nice to read notes but I don't see myself typing a lot of notes on my iPhone, I'd have to toggle between what I was reading and what I'm typing.

Then over time I realized how I was using the mobile app. More as a book reader than researching topics. For me I'd prefer to have a simple highlighting tool. I'd even be happy with it just being available in books that are not the Bible. So by "clicking' on a word would bring up a highlight option instead of search. I'd be happy with it being a mobile style so I can search for it back on the PC/Mac and type up my notes. 

One more for highlights and markups.  I'm not a big fan of Olive Tree.  (I like Mantis better for the UI.  I don't like split screen when space is so limited, Mantis has a cool approach.  But Mantis lacks resources.)  Obviously my greatest investment in resources has been in Logos.  Would be great to have the highlighting.   And have it sync with the highlights I create on the desktop.

Bob Pritchett said:

Any suggestions on how to handle choosing from large highlight palettes on a small iPhone screen? Let you pick a highlight and then just use that one through a quick UI? Or make it easy to pick from, say, your last three used?

This is where I believe more control of the mobile versions in the desktop version is needed. For instance, the desktop version information page for a resource should have "available in mobile format" on it with the  option to download, view, or hide it. it would be the same for highlighting. in order for a highlight to be available on a mobile app a box must be checked stating "make this available on mobile devices." A single control in the program settings would hide or display these settings, defaulting to hide.

so it would work like this. When I buy my IPad I would go into program settings on my desktop and select "show mobile options?" If I do not change this setting to yes then everything would be available on my mobile device. If I change it to yes options become available throughout the program. Reading plans could be deselected from showing up on mobile devices through the resource panel, as could resources. Right clicking on "Reading Plan" in the "File" tab would have an option that can be toggled somehow to select all reading plans for mobile use or select all to turn off mobile use. Same option would be on the highlighting panel.

That would at least allow someone to easily "clean up" the clutter on the mobile device.

Gabriel Powell said:

I agree with Peter... one simple highlighter should be sufficient first time around.

Gabriel Powell said:

But the important thing in addition to highlighting is making sure it syncs to the computer.

April Strong said:

Ditto!!!  Pretty please, Logos.  This one is really valuable.

Peace Be With All on Logos Forums!

I am glad people agree with me on the importance of just getting the basic highlighting functionality working on iPhone as soon as possible - fancier highlighting, and even notes, which would be awkward to do much on a small iPhone anyway, are a much lower priority. 

The voices are getting more shrill...Logos, give us highlighting, or we die![:D]

May the LORD bless and keep you all

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Bob, thanks for keeping us up to date on this. Many of us are looking for highlighting, notes and clippings. I find myself using my iPad for reading more than my mac. It would be nice to have some of those basic features.
Can you share with us a roadmap of a few planned features? If not a roadmap, is there a planned regular update schedule like the mac alpha? If not, would it be possible to have one?
Kurt

Holy cow...  I know it's not simple and all, but I REALLY need it!!  I'm in seminary online, and the books being on LOGOS is INCREDIBLE; however, without being able to highlight key points or make some notes, I have to stick with regular books...  *sigh*

Any fresh news on when this might happen?

Thanks for making LOGOS amazing!