New Jerusalem Bible with Complete study notes

Thanks for the reminder.

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/113940.aspx

Dan Francis said:

BUMP

You guys are wearing me down!  Every time I see this, it gets more difficult not to preorder. [:P]

Steve said:

Sorry about that ... we are just excited to see that it's coming.  Unfortunately, not fast enough. 

Even though the translation is updated from the original 1966 Jerusalem Bible, the notes are well worth the modest price.

It's okay. I preordered it now. [:D]

I thank you too... every little bit helps I am just amazed there hasn't been more traction, I suppose it is partly because most people have the translation already but for me the notes are as important as the translation and does amount to a fairly in depth one volume commentary.

-Dan

I know there is a link to the other page up top but i thought I would provide the same from the other thread to give people a feel for what is in the notes compared to the rudimentary notes found in the readers edition.

Many of you may well have the readers edition of NJB in your Libraries but to give you an idea for those of you not familiar with it. Imagine the NIV Study Bible was published first and the the translation was excised out of it with the bare minimal notes.

This is the full text:

1 At many moments in the past and by many means, God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets; 2 but in our time, the final days, ^a he has spoken to us in the person of his Son, ^b whom he appointed heir of all things ^c and through whom he made the ages. ^d 3 He is the reflection of God’s glory and bears the impress of God’s own being, ^e sustaining all things by his powerful command; and now that he has purged sins away, he has taken his seat at the right hand of the divine Majesty on high. 4 So he is now as far above the angels as the title which he has inherited is higher than their own name. 

  a. In the fullness of time, Mk 1:15; Ga 4:4c, the last times or the last days begin, Ac 2:17; 1 P 1:20. 
  b. After the prophets, God sends an envoy who is no longer a mere messenger like the others; he is ‘Son’, cf. Mk 12:2-6; Rm 1:4c, he is even the Word, Jn 1:1a, 14m. 
  c. To be a son implies having the right to inherit, cf. Mt 21:38, Ga 4:7. Here, however, God is credited with the handing over of the whole creation because the inheritance in question is messianic and eschatological. 
  d. Hebraism for the whole of creation. 
  e. These two metaphors are borrowed from the sophia and logos theologies of Alexandria, Ws 7:25-26; they express both the identity of nature between Father and Son, and the distinction of persons. The Son is the brightness, the light shining from its source, which is the bright glory, see Ex 24:16f, of the Father (‘Light from Light’). He is also the replica, see Col 1:15d, of the Father’s substance, like an exact impression made by a seal on clay or wax, cf. Jn 14:9.

This is what the readers version we currently own in Logos provides:

1  At many moments in the past and by many means, God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets; but ² in our time, the final days, he has spoken to us in the person of his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things and through whom he made the ages. ³ He is the reflection of God’s glory and bears the impress of God’s own being, ^*  sustaining all things by his powerful command; and now that he has purged sins away, he has taken his seat at the right hand of the divine Majesty on high. ⁴So he is now as far above the angels as the title which he has inherited is higher than their own name. 

^* cf. Ws 7:25–26.

 The New Jerusalem Bible (New York: Doubleday, 1985), Heb 1:1–4.

This is an invaluable work that every scholar of the Bible should want in their library. For $15.99 it is one of the greatest bargains you will find in the Logos world. Please consider ordering it to help bring this work in it's  fullness to Logos. 

-Dan

Everybody is speaking about the notes but nobody mentions the references attached to the verses in the left or right margin. (See in the Print Edition snapshot.) These references lead you to other parts of the Bible which are in some way closely or loosely related to the original verse. It's a unique feature of the New Jerusalem Bible. It's just like the web in the internet. You can start from one verse and jump to one of it's references and from that you can go further.

Will this edition contain these references too, or it will contain only the (foot)Notes?

Laszlo

I would be very interest too if they are included... I would guess yes... but I am speculating... I hope a Logos individual can answer us for sure soon...

-Dan

It is a very sad thing since I believe the greater demand for this product might be outside of North America.... That said I can't believe it has not reached production levels yet, this is such an important work and generally it has had a wider interest than just catholics. Hey don't get me wrong I am very happy to have the NJB readers edition, but it is sort of like a hamburger without the bun and toppings yes you have the core but what is missing really makes the complete package so much better.

-Dan

Written by an Englishman, yet not available in England or Europe, what a surprise....!

BUMP... We need a lot of movement to get this fine work into Logos.

Four reasons to get the NJB complete.

1) The NJB is quite simply a literary masterpiece. It communicates the Bible in a way that is hard to explain I remember one protestant minster telling me back in the early 90's that it was the most accurate translation since the KJV... Now one can take that statement as you will, but the truth of the matter is the quality of the translation and poetic stylings make this a work that speaks to ones soul. Without the notes you are left with singing and no music. The notes explain things give valuable references.

2) The notes indeed the entire project was done primarily by scholars living in the Holy Land at the École Bibliotech living there offers them insights that can easily be missed by those from away.

3)This work is widely respected not only by Roman Catholics but also many protestant bodies and even in non-religious circles as a good Bible to study and use for reference.

4)While used by many it is written from a catholic perspective although very little dogma ever makes it into the notes, the authors took seriously the wider canon and refer to it. For example quite often Paul's virtual quoting of the wisdom of solomon is over looked. The NJB notes do make note of this... That is not to try to say Paul believed Wis. to be scripture but it is nice to see where some of his quotations are coming from. 

The lack of this full edition in Logos feels much like an orchestra missing a violin. Logos functions well without it but there is definitely something missing, please consider getting it, it may be the best $16 you have spent to expand the breadth of your logos library. If you are protestant if gives you a solid look into catholic scholarship, if you are RC is gives you one of the finest study Bibles the Catholic Church has ever produced. Thank you for your time and please have a blessed advent season.

-Dan