Wordsearch to Logos

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117005#Comment_1117005

Welcome to the forums. My father, a retired rancher and county computer nerd went into the schools every morning to solve computer problems well into his 80's. By his mid-nineties the decrease in coordination and mental acuity made adjusting to new software difficult. But I found if it was presented one skill at a time for skills that he needed right then, he could still handle a computer. Keep coming to the forums to ask questions for exactly what you need. There is much of Logos you'll never need to use.

DominicM

Daniel,
I understand your pain, being both a Bible Explorer and Wordsearch 4 user, the switch to cross format hit me badly too.

There are a large number of us who have used multiple software platforms before, dont be afraid to ask in the "Wordsearch" forum here, "How do I?", as many will assist you

Dennis Wilder

Logos is junk, change my mind!

SineNomine

Hi Daniel,

Ask all the questions you want about how to do stuff on the forums, and you'll get all the assistance possible. The community on these forums is very accustomed to helping people new to Logos with all kinds of stuff. Learning Logos on your own can be challenging. Learning with forum dwellers' assistance is a lot easier. [:-)]

SineNomine

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117065#Comment_1117065

Logos is junk, change my mind!

Sorry, I can't change your mind against your will.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117065#Comment_1117065

Logos is junk, change my mind!

I am a long time WS user (Since 2.0) and Logos user. Please let us know your workflow and specific features of WS that you would like us to try and show you how to accomplish, if possible, in Logos. We are glad to assist.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117073#Comment_1117073

Sorry, I can't change your mind against your will.

Whoa whoa whoa, please keep theological debates off the forum! [:D]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117075#Comment_1117075

Logos is junk, change my mind!

I am a long time WS user (Since 2.0) and Logos user. Please let us know your workflow and specific features of WS that you would like us to try and show you how to accomplish, if possible, in Logos. We are glad to assist.

I think Dennis may be upset that two of his Bibles weren't imported in the first round of license transfers: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193831/1117064.aspx#1117064

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117098#Comment_1117098

A few resources of note that are in Logos and should transfer, but have not:

NASB77

Preacher's Outline and Sermon Commentaries

AW Tozer Collection

Expository Preaching Outlines - Olford

Please let me know the status of these. I realize there are many that are not yet in Logos, but these resources are currently available.

Thanks!!

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117104#Comment_1117104

A few resources of note that are in Logos and should transfer, but have not:

NASB77

actually I got this one from the merge (it's just called NASB)

Preacher's Outline and Sermon Commentaries

Do you mean POSB? (the B stands for Bible, even though those are commentaries), if so, I got one [Romans] from the merge

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117104#Comment_1117104

NASB77

Preacher's Outline and Sermon Commentaries

AW Tozer Collection

Expository Preaching Outlines - Olford

We don't have a record of NASB77 in your Wordsearch licenses. Another customer has reported missing Tozer as well (https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193801/1117039.aspx#1117039) so there may be something we need to look into further there. We probably won't have any updates until early next week, sorry.

Claude Brown Jr

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117104#Comment_1117104

A few resources of note that are in Logos and should transfer, but have not:

NASB77

Preacher's Outline and Sermon Commentaries

AW Tozer Collection

Expository Preaching Outlines - Olford

Please let me know the status of these. I realize there are many that are not yet in Logos, but these resources are currently available.

Thanks!!

I did get all of my Preacher's Outline and Sermon Commentaries

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117120#Comment_1117120

We don't have a record of NASB77 in your Wordsearch licenses. Another customer has reported missing Tozer as well (https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193801/1117039.aspx#1117039) so there may be something we need to look into further there. We probably won't have any updates until early next week, sorry.

Not a problem. I can e mail whatever license information that would be helpful in getting this resolved. Just let me know. I have a complete list of WS resources.

Thanks.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117124#Comment_1117124

Not a problem. I can e mail whatever license information that would be helpful in getting this resolved. Just let me know. I have a complete list of WS resources.

That would be very helpful. Please send it to first.last@faithlife.com.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117126#Comment_1117126

Not a problem. I can e mail whatever license information that would be helpful in getting this resolved. Just let me know. I have a complete list of WS resources.

That would be very helpful. Please send it to first.last@faithlife.com.

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https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117131#Comment_1117131

Use my first name and last name in the email address. [:D]

(I just wanted to obfuscate it a little instead of posting my email address directly in the forums.)

Mark Smith

As a New to Logos user it appears to me that I will have to spend a LOT more time learning Logos

I think that is the reaction of many people new to Logos Bible Software.

Let me suggest you begin by doing the simplest things possible with Logos. Launch your studies from the Logos Home Page by typing a passage or topic into the Go bar and hitting Enter. This will give you simple but helpful layouts of your Bible and key Logos tools. From there, you can add additional tools or do searches from the right click menu on words.

Then I'd suggest you view one of the Logos video tutorials every day (or at whatever pace you like) to add to your understanding and your skill set.

You can keep going back to WordSearch for awhile to get things done you haven't yet learned to do in Logos.

Take a small bite at a time and it won't be too difficult.

Best of luck.

Remember there is a lot of help available in the regular Logos 8 Forum besides here. This is a friendly place and no question is too simple.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117139#Comment_1117139

Use my first name and last name in the email address.

(I just wanted to obfuscate it a little instead of posting my email address directly in the forums.)

Blushing... of course.

SineNomine

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117095#Comment_1117095

Sorry, I can't change your mind against your will.

Whoa whoa whoa, please keep theological debates off the forum!

Oops! [:D]

Daniel Kyle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117143#Comment_1117143

This sounds simple enough for a guy that has worked with computers since 1987 but, my situation is that I am a Pastor that needs to prepare two sermons and a Bible study each and every week along with doing everything else a Full-time Pastor must do. I do not know how I can find the extra time to learn how to do what I have been doing with just having the time for the Bible study and sermon/lesson preparation I already do.

I started preaching in 1988 with PC Study Bible I upgraded and used that program until version 5. I have PC Study Bible 5 working on my Windows 10 Computer even though Biblesoft support told me I could not do it. (The installer will not run so I worked around that). I really did not like PC Study Bible version 5 and moved on pretty much abandoning my investment.

The problem imposed on me by this is mostly about my time, and then about the effects of the brain injury which make it difficult to remember new ways of doing things.

I also have used Swordsearcher - Wordsearch, Bible Analyzer, Quick Verse, and a few others but LOVE Wordsearch 12. The HTML editor with quick mouse hover links to my Bible Window is one of my favorite features. I do all my sermon and lesson outlines with it and preach and teach from the program too. I have 882 books made up of 2094 volumes and the organization is where Wordsearch really shines, and from what I have seen and read so far where Logos is lacking?

Is there an easy way in Logos to see all the resources that have migrated so far in a list form?

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117207#Comment_1117207

Is there an easy way in Logos to see all the resources that have migrated so far in a list form?

You should be able to see all YOUR resources that have migrated by opening up Library.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117207#Comment_1117207

Is there an easy way in Logos to see all the resources that have migrated so far in a list form?

You open the library in list form (i.e. Details View - red arrow in screenshot) and select from the facet filter "Added Today" (purple arrow)

Steve Hartwig

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117257#Comment_1117257

I installed LOGOS today, September 19, 2020. I do not see ANY of my Wordsearch 12 resources in the LOGOS library. Can anyone tell me why I don't see any of my Wordsearch 12 resources?

David Thomas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117279#Comment_1117279

Can anyone tell me why I don't see any of my Wordsearch 12 resources?

Welcome to the Logos Forum!

Most likely, it is related to the email account that you have associated with WS and the one you use to login to L8. This forum is LARGELY other users, to get a solution from someone who has access to your account it is best to email cs@logos.com or call customer service.

DELETE

AMEN!!

Josh Hunt

As a former WordSearch user I can say that it will get easier and will be well worth it.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117279#Comment_1117279

I installed LOGOS today, September 19, 2020. I do not see ANY of my Wordsearch 12 resources in the LOGOS library. Can anyone tell me why I don't see any of my Wordsearch 12 resources?

Hi Steve,

Welcome to Logos! It looks like your account was imported but your Wordsearch licenses aren't currently available to us. We hope to resolve this on Monday, so please check back then. Sorry for the disappointing news.

willie stephenson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117104#Comment_1117104

i have not received any of my Preacher's outline and sermon bible or commentary

xnman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1128801#Comment_1128801

When Logos took over WS (which I loved), I sat on the sidelines and waited for about 3 weeks or so. I have observed some things:

1. The learning curve for learning Logos is steep, that's because Logos is much more complex and powerful. WS, even WS 12 was a more simple program and was very limited in what it did if you wanted to get away from basic studies. i.e. Tracking words to original language took some work in WS and seems to be lot easier in Logos.

2. Logos is moving over WS resources into Logos at a pretty good speed. I'm still waiting on my verse lists, my documents, my personal books, etc. I took the bite and transferred my notes myself as I need my notes. I made the decision to only work in Logos... My mind gets tired working in both programs.

3. If you have different emails (one for WS and a different one for Logos) then your resources won't get transferred because of that. You must have the same emails else Logos doesn't know where to put your stuff.

4. There are many, many, many videos about anything in Logos. Google what you are looking for in Logos 8 or 9 and you'll most likely find more than one video about the matter. Then, get a cup of coffee and watch as many of the videos as you can. When you do, fire up Logos and pause the video and work through what they do in the video. Learn by seeing then doing! Also, the people on these forums have been very helpful and patient with all my dumb questions. Believe me, I ask dumb questions!

5. Life is about change. Most people fight the change instead of embracing it. Fighting change makes it harder to learn. I like many have went from one Bible program to another then another, then another and finally Logos. Changes! But life is like that. Our attitude can work for us or against us. It's really our choice.

David Thomas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1129027#Comment_1129027

I have observed some things:

Since I defended a contrary position to yours in another thread, I want to take this opportunity to applaud your observations.

I believe you fairly describe some of the differences between the two programs and map out an honest path to navigating the change.

[Y][Y]

Charlene

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117257#Comment_1117257

Is there an easy way in Logos to see all the resources that have migrated so far in a list form?

You open the library in list form (i.e. Details View - red arrow in screenshot) and select from the facet filter "Added Today" (purple arrow)

Unfortunately it appears that Logos also did an update today, so I am not sure which resources have been directly added from Wordsearch. Is there any other way to determine which books were added from Wordsearch?

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1137548#Comment_1137548

Unfortunately it appears that Logos also did an update today, so I am not sure which resources have been directly added from Wordsearch. Is there any other way to determine which books were added from Wordsearch?

Updated existing resources in your library are no issue at all when you use the added filter facet. Things you actively bought in one of the FL shops or PrePubs that came through at the same time as WS resources will show in the Order History in your FL account.

j fields

Daniel I know exactly how you feel because our ministry situations are very similar. I am continuing to use WordSearch while at the same time trying to learn Logos with limited success. Though I have looked many times, I still cannot figure out how to coordinate selecting a word from my Bible translations with "That's Easy for You to Say" for pronunciations. I have followed a video on moving up the priority and when I select a word it still will not work without me typing in the word to Easy. In WS all you had to do is select a word in the Bible Translation, right click and pick pronounce. Done. I am very frustrated as well Brother.

I have not received any responses to my questions about this.

Daniel Kyle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1141424#Comment_1141424

I see that arrogance that "our way is better" so we will just do away with the features you liked is likely going to prevail, many will adapt others will leave. I am glad I have other choices that will do what I want to do even if I have to use dedicated old software, new is not always better.

Proverbs 22:28Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1141424#Comment_1141424

Place your questions on using Logos in the Logos 9 desktop app forum to get answers. Most Logos savvy users don't follow the Wordsearch forum -- especially in a long thread that doesn't get bumped when no answer has been given.

j fields

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1141452#Comment_1141452

I already did... thanks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1141443#Comment_1141443

I see that arrogance that "our way is better" so we will just do away with the features you liked is likely going to prevail

There have been indications that some form of the Lesson Builder is likely to be built. Other items I haven't paid much attention since my use of Wordsearch was limited to teaching my Dad to use it a decade or two ago. But if you've spent any time in software development, you will know that how a feature is integrated into an application depends on the basic structure of the application. So the same feature will have a different implementation in Logos than in Wordsearch. What Wordsearch users can do to make sure their needs are met is to add features present in Wordsearch but missing in Logos to the user feedback site Roadmap | Faithlife Feedback then drum up support. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing which features FL may already have in their development roadmap so one may be drumming up support for something that will be done anyway.

PS. Please read the forum guidelines Forum Guidelines - Faithlife Forums (logos.com) I can't speak for others but in my living room calling others arrogant is not a great way to start out.

Daniel Kyle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1141459#Comment_1141459

Please forgive my frustration as I forgive those that frustrate me. [;)]

Mark Manderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1117075#Comment_1117075

2 things from WS:

1) Ability to have a highlighter of my choice scroll along verse by verse as I read thru the Bible.

2) Ability to "click" on a Strong's Numbers reference within the Bible I was reading.

So far, I really miss both features. I'm hoping it is or will be available in Logos.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1141490#Comment_1141490

Please forgive my frustration as I forgive those that frustrate me.

[:D]

Don't forget you can push for different/added behavior on FeedBear (faithlife.com) FL has ended up doing what it said it wouldn't in the face of user pressure.