The Catholic Encyclopedia
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It showed up on the Android and iOS apps for me this morning!
Ah, there it is. Just found it ready. Not sure why the release was different, but all is good [:)]
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I'm thrilled to see the Catholic Encyclopedia available now. The really great thing that I've found is that the Factbook points to articles in the Catholic Encyclopedia for a number of key articles. I made a few Factbook entries to see which resource(s) would be linked as the key article. Here's an example of items that pointed to the Catholic Encyclopedia: Charlemagne, John Duns Scotus, Pope Pius IX, Easter, Council of Trent, Athanasian Creed, Philosophy of Immanuel Kant, Renaissance, Roger Bacon, Galileo Galilei. I have the 1917 Appleton Publishing Company hardcover set of Encyclopedias and know how good they are. It's great to see it being utilized in the Factbook!
Great job Faithlife!
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all who purchased it in Verbum 9 packages
FWIW - I have not received this, and I've purchased both Verbum 9 Gold and Verbum 9 Academic Professional. This is not a complaint - I've waited about 10 years for this resource, I can wait a few extra days - but if the logic is supposed to be pushing this down to Silver+ packages, it might be a bit buggy.
Try restarting your software. It should be available to you now.
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I'm thrilled to see the Catholic Encyclopedia available now.
I'm also glad I have it in Verbum.
It's a little odd to see it in my library as a Logos Reader Edition; given that there is no such indication of that on its product page and that it is an encyclopedia, of all things, I would like to assume that it will soon be a Logos Research Edition.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Am reading a book that quotes heavily from this work. Have verified that that author correctly quoted the first three references they made.
[That is why we have large libraries - so we can independently verify what someone tells us. We can never get all the references used but we can check a sample]
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This is a really impressive resource; just a few clicks after my quick lookup of Purgatory, I was adding notes to City of God in an impromptu study session. I'm really glad that I'll have this in the library going forward! Thanks, and Merry Christmas everbody.
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[That is why we have large libraries - so we can independently verify what someone tells us. We can never get all the references used but we can check a sample]
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That’s why I find the large libraries invaluable. While I might disagree with a theologian outside of my tradition, I always want to learn the context of what was said instead of relying on a potentially inaccurate interpretation of a quote from someone who disagrees. Verbum has made that much easier For me to do.
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That’s why I find the large libraries invaluable. While I might disagree with a theologian outside of my tradition, I always want to learn the context of what was said instead of relying on a potentially inaccurate interpretation of a quote from someone who disagrees. Verbum has made that much easier For me to do.
Amen! And sometimes we see that the 'outside of my tradition' authors have some real positive views that have value.
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It's a little odd to see it in my library as a Logos Reader Edition; given that there is no such indication of that on its product page and that it is an encyclopedia, of all things, I would like to assume that it will soon be a Logos Research Edition.
Another example of why I think the Product Details section should always show every metadata element relevant to a buying decision. If the marketeers are frightened by all of that busy-busy at once, they could initially show only the elements that serve their purposes and then provide a 'More' link for the inquisitive.
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they could initially show only the elements that serve their purposes
FL is at its core a business. Its main function is to sell lots of ebooks. So its initial purposes would be to get us to buy the resource!
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It's a little odd to see it in my library as a Logos Reader Edition; given that there is no such indication of that on its product page and that it is an encyclopedia, of all things, I would like to assume that it will soon be a Logos Research Edition.
Another example of why I think the Product Details section should always show every metadata element relevant to a buying decision. If the marketeers are frightened by all of that busy-busy at once, they could initially show only the elements that serve their purposes and then provide a 'More' link for the inquisitive.
I've now also noticed that, unlike Logos.com, Verbum.com doesn't seem to have a page that explains the differences between the two editions, and there's seemingly nothing about them in the Verbum.com FAQ.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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The Logos description says it’s 16 volumes, which includes volume 16 with a lot of supplementary articles. However, what Logos just rolled out to us is only volumes 1 through 15.
How do we get volume 16 included in our Catholic encyclopedia?
Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)
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I have the original hardcover from the early 1900s. Volume 16 is called "Index/Reading Lists". Maybe they haven't finished that one yet.
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It's a little odd to see it in my library as a Logos Reader Edition; given that there is no such indication of that on its product page and that it is an encyclopedia, of all things, I would like to assume that it will soon be a Logos Research Edition.
Also being discussed here: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/197592.aspx
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Improving the CE (internal linking, etc) and its connection to Factbook is an ongoing project. As you can imagine, there is a huge amount of text, so since its release we've noted places that need fixing or improvement. Please list instances here or email us as you find them!
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Thanks for the update Don. Do you know if there is to be a volume 16? The Catholic Encyclopedia is certainly a great resource to have available in Verbum. I think it's especially nice to have the Factbook point to entries in this resource for "key articles"!
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Please list instances here or email us as you find them!
It's not quite what you have requested, but there seems to be a common problem in the text of "è" frequently having been auto-corrected to "È". An inline search for Nève or Liège will find a number of examples. I've reported some as typos. This has messed up the names of at least three Factbook articles: https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25FelixJeanBaptisteJosephN%C3%88ve_Person & https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Balderic_Person & https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25AlgerOfLiEge_Person
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Please list instances here or email us as you find them!
It's not quite what you have requested, but there seems to be a common problem in the text of "è" frequently having been auto-corrected to "È". An inline search for Nève or Liège will find a number of examples. I've reported some as typos. This has messed up the names of at least three Factbook articles: https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25FelixJeanBaptisteJosephN%C3%88ve_Person & https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Balderic_Person & https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25AlgerOfLiEge_Person
I can replicate:
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Please list instances here or email us as you find them!
It's not quite what you have requested, but there seems to be a common problem in the text of "è" frequently having been auto-corrected to "È". An inline search for Nève or Liège will find a number of examples. I've reported some as typos. This has messed up the names of at least three Factbook articles: https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25FelixJeanBaptisteJosephN%C3%88ve_Person & https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Balderic_Person & https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25AlgerOfLiEge_Person
Thanks for the report. I've passed this on to our Factbook data team.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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The Logos description says it’s 16 volumes, which includes volume 16 with a lot of supplementary articles. However, what Logos just rolled out to us is only volumes 1 through 15.
How do we get volume 16 included in our Catholic encyclopedia?
The 16th volume is an index of the first 15 volumes. That index is contained in the table of contents feature. There were no additional entries in the 16th volume. I apologize for the confusion.
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The 16th volume is an index of the first 15 volumes. That index is contained in the table of contents feature. There were no additional entries in the 16th volume.
I'm not really sure - in another thread the 16th volume was shared even as a PB source: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/197592/1145150.aspx#1145150
Have joy in the Lord!
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The 16th volume is an index of the first 15 volumes. That index is contained in the table of contents feature. There were no additional entries in the 16th volume.
I'm not really sure - in another thread the 16th volume was shared even as a PB source: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/197592/1145150.aspx#1145150
I'll have to look further into this. There was a decision to forgo adding one of the supplemental volumes in order to get the main volumes shipped more quickly, but I thought that was a 17th volume. Perhaps I'm off by a number.
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There was a decision to forgo adding one of the supplemental volumes in order to get the main volumes shipped more quickly,
To be honest this is worrying, hopefully this will be rectified after your investigation.
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I'll have to look further into this. There was a decision to forgo adding one of the supplemental volumes in order to get the main volumes shipped more quickly, but I thought that was a 17th volume. Perhaps I'm off by a number.
Volume 16 provides articles and an index. Neither the articles--the first of which is "Aarhus, Ancient See of"--nor the index exist in my Verbum library.
Then there was then a 1918 supplement--a short one--that addressed changes in canon law.
Finally there was a 1922 supplement, which is Volume 17.
Interestingly, the New Advent site, which Verbum's Catholic Encyclopedia resource is clearly derived from, does include the articles from Volume 16.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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I'm looking into it.
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Volume 16 provides articles and an index.
We will be producing the articles from Volume 16. Their omission was an oversight.
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It's a little odd to see it in my library as a Logos Reader Edition; given that there is no such indication of that on its product page and that it is an encyclopedia, of all things, I would like to assume that it will soon be a Logos Research Edition.
The Catholic Encyclopedia is closer to a Research Edition than a Reader Edition, however, it does lack some tagging that a full research edition would have. It is fully integrated with Factbook, and packs more punch than a typical Reader Edition.
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Volume 16 provides articles and an index.
We will be producing the articles from Volume 16. Their omission was an oversight.
Thank you [Y]
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Volume 16 provides articles and an index.
We will be producing the articles from Volume 16.
Great!
It's a little odd to see it in my library as a Logos Reader Edition; given that there is no such indication of that on its product page and that it is an encyclopedia, of all things, I would like to assume that it will soon be a Logos Research Edition.
The Catholic Encyclopedia is closer to a Research Edition than a Reader Edition, however, it does lack some tagging that a full research edition would have. It is fully integrated with Factbook, and packs more punch than a typical Reader Edition.
If you find that it is missing some desired functionality, let us know and we'll see if we can rectify it.Will do.
If there was actually a public list of the differences between Research Editions and Reader Editions, I think there would be less confusion about why the Catholic Encyclopedia isn't a Research Edition.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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If you find that it is missing some desired functionality, let us know and we'll see if we can rectify it.
Will do.
It seems to be missing Date tagging.
I don't know how important that is in general to other people; the very specific task I was going to do until I ran the Concordance and got no hits for Date references is impossible without it, but I can live that, and I don't see myself using Date tagging for some other purpose.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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