What are the top bugs or incomplete features that make your Logos life a pain?

The Atlas Tool not using my GPU so is terribly laggy whilst rotating/panning etc compared with the one at https://app.logos.com/tools/atlas. (Win10/Nvidia)

• There is no way to create custom slide groups in the Sermon Builder. 

• There is no way to import custom slide groups from Proclaim.

• Sermon slides that are transferred to Proclaim cannot be easily changed to another temple (only Bible slides properly convert in Proclaim, in my experience; any others, custom or not, must be manually recreated).

• Unreasonable restrictions on having personal books on mobile devices (I've given up on creating personal books at all, and instead use Notes).

The single most frustrating issue i have is the way in which the Library is updated any time you tag a resource (not the fact that it is updated, but the intrusive manner in which it is updated). There is NO need for the yellow bar to be inserted into the library display, it could easily be a pop over instead, thus not moving the entire library down and then up again. There is no need for the update to deselect the resource you have selected just because the library is updated with the tag. This drives me bonkers, and i add tags daily. It's needlessly frustrating and intrusive. This has been an issue FOREVER.

Jerry Bush said:

Prioritization should be overhauled. It is not intuitive, especially for a new user. 

You just dump books into a long list. I want there to be categories. For instance: Bibles, Commentaries, Dictionaries, etc.

The way it is now is kind of a mess.

I completely agree.

Jerry Bush said:

Prioritization should be overhauled. It is not intuitive, especially for a new user. 

You just dump books into a long list. I want there to be categories. For instance: Bibles, Commentaries, Dictionaries, etc.

The way it is now is kind of a mess.

Yep [Y] ! There is a known rough workaround for the moment though. Create a blank Word doc, import it into Logos as a personal book and give it a title so it will stand out. Add it to your prioritization list, then position it accordingly. Repeat, using the same blank word doc, but different title categories.See example pic.

Dave Colclough wrote:

Yep  ! There is a known rough workaround for the moment though. Create a blank Word doc, import it into Logos as a personal book and give it a title so it will stand out. Add it to your prioritization list, then position it accordingly. Repeat, using the same blank word doc, but different title categories.See example pic.

I never thought of this before! Thank you. 

It is better than what we have. Hopefully it will be fixed soon, or at least in version 10.

One perpetual, system wide pet peeve:

Biblical text popups (when hovering over a biblical reference) are not scrollable. E.g. Hover over a reference to "John 1" will only show the first few verses.

Also would like those popups to show the top 2 versions, for those of us who routinely work with 2 Bible translations in different languages.

Workaround: The F7 function popup is scrollable and shows the top 5 Bible versions.

John Kaess said:

The single most frustrating issue i have is the way in which the Library is updated any time you tag a resource (not the fact that it is updated, but the intrusive manner in which it is updated). There is NO need for the yellow bar to be inserted into the library display, it could easily be a pop over instead, thus not moving the entire library down and then up again. There is no need for the update to deselect the resource you have selected just because the library is updated with the tag. This drives me bonkers, and i add tags daily. It's needlessly frustrating and intrusive. This has been an issue FOREVER

I totally agree [Y]

I wonder if a pause library updating option similar to the pause indexing for 4 hours option could be made available for this issue at least?

PL said:

One perpetual, system wide pet peeve:

Biblical text popups (when hovering over a biblical reference) are not scrollable. E.g. Hover over a reference to "John 1" will only show the first few verses.

Also would like those popups to show the top 2 versions, for those of us who routinely work with 2 Bible translations in different languages.

Workaround: The F7 function popup is scrollable and shows the top 5 Bible versions.

[Y]

Michael said:

For me it would be dark mode.  It's half baked and unusable due to legibility issues with various font colors and highlight colors.  It's disappointing since dark mode is marketed as a key feature for Logos 9.

Agree, sometimes the fonts are unreadable in certain resources, so that one has to use the web app to read it.

Also what seems like a missing feature for me is the inability to put hyperlinks in canvas to particular resource locations.

If I could do that, then I would be able to create mind map like visual index.

For example imagine the text in the following image to be a hyperlink that would take me to a canvas doc that has many resource locations relevant to that particular word:

John Kaess said:

The single most frustrating issue i have is the way in which the Library is updated any time you tag a resource (not the fact that it is updated, but the intrusive manner in which it is updated). There is NO need for the yellow bar to be inserted into the library display, it could easily be a pop over instead, thus not moving the entire library down and then up again. There is no need for the update to deselect the resource you have selected just because the library is updated with the tag. This drives me bonkers, and i add tags daily. It's needlessly frustrating and intrusive. This has been an issue FOREVER.

I had a little steam issuing from my ears for this very reason just today. You summarized it well, though I usually experience it when changing a resource's title rather than when tagging. The current updating process interrupts any subsequent process you may be working on and deselects it, so that you have to start your amending from scratch. The only option is to wait however many seconds for the updating process to occur. The irony is that when I did this on my older and slower computer, if I was quick I could do a series of back-to-back changes, and if I completed a subsequent change before the update kicked in, the update que just rolled back. Now, with my zippy system, I have to just sit for a few seconds and do nothing while waiting for the update to register. So now, because my faster computer processes my changes quicker, the process is slower because I can't fully complete a subsequent edit, so any edit work I'm engaged in gets wiped out. Frustrating and time wasting.

So, to be clear, two issues need to be addressed here:

1) The "yellow bar" John mentions should not be inserted into the library list. It simply causes problems when this happens. A pop-up box in the corner would work better, assuming anything needs to happen at all (I'm not sure the information provided in the yellow bar is even necessary).

2) When the updated edited entry "kicks in", that should not wipe out any work a user is engaged in while making subsequent edits.

EDIT: I see SineNomine (among others) also has the same concern above.

I totally agree with this one. It keeps dumping me out of the information pane in the middle of adding a tag.

Hello Gregory,

Perhaps this is out of scope of this post, but can you elaborate a bit on why you've given up on creating personal books at all?

Martin Hall said:

What might be better is if you had the ability to "archive" your previous answers & then be able to access them later to compare your current answers to your former answers. I find that sometimes my thought process has changed or I see growth from my previous answers. 

While I may never use any of the workbooks I own (I'm pretty sure I own some, though I'm not exactly sure which ones), this suggestions does sound like a valuable option.

John Kaess said:

The single most frustrating issue i have is the way in which the Library is updated any time you tag a resource (not the fact that it is updated, but the intrusive manner in which it is updated). There is NO need for the yellow bar to be inserted into the library display, it could easily be a pop over instead, thus not moving the entire library down and then up again. There is no need for the update to deselect the resource you have selected just because the library is updated with the tag. This drives me bonkers, and i add tags daily. It's needlessly frustrating and intrusive. This has been an issue FOREVER.

You guys have probably listed my top 3. 

The Library update issue is the worst pain ever.

I would love to scroll in Bible pop ups

Bible Browser should include Old and New Testament categories. I keep having to search book by book and it would be so much easier if I could search all of the New or all of the Old Testament at one time.

SineNomine said:

cshover8669 said:

The Library update issue is the worst pain ever.

The loss of focus part of it has been fixed in 9.6 Beta 1.

That's very good to hear. Thank you, FL. However, although that issue has long been a nuisance, it is a problem that always had a fairly straightward, if tedious, workaround: just wait. Once the program finished its "think", you could proceed apace.

Far more pressing for me, I have noticed plenty of other users addressing issues in the forum that I have been noticing as well over the last couple of months related to the Note system. In a word, Notes are BROKEN...basic, fundamental word processing functions have vanished into the ether. Issues I have noticed include:

• footnotes and marginal notes failing to be copied along with body text
• total loss of basic wp data, such as indents, spacing, etc.
• copying of text failing to include the above coding
• fonts inlcuded in the note input window not displaying in the note pop-up
• erratic and unexplainable variations of serif and sans serif text in note pop-ups even though the text in note input window is uniformly sans serif.
• in the mobile app, some note pop-up windows refuse to scroll; I've even edited a note, then tried to open and scroll through the pop-up only for it to be "locked", meaning I can't scroll down to the Edit Note link to re-edit the note I just finished editing.
• availability of scrolling function in mobile app notes w/o similar function in desktop app
• other issues I know I'm overlooking

These are "smash the button and shut down the production line" concerns. FL CANNOT LET THESE ISSUES PASS...these are core features whose absence and disappearance BREAKS the program. These issues MUST be fixed TODAY...not tomorrow. NOW.

Jack Hairston said:

Some expandable lists have a Collapse All button.

The table of contents for Bibles does not.

In fact, no ToCs do, which for me can be a pain navigating around various reference resources.

I already suggested this in the Logos user feedback site. Long ago.
Does the Logos consider that feedback when fixing/adding functionality?

(As a retired software engineer, I realize how hard it is to keep up with the wish lists of users.)

Have noticed a few of these as well. Right now the most painful bug is that the desktop app crashes every time I try to highlight a word in the search box on BDAG. 

2514.LogosLogs.colefeix.20210607-151110.zipPhilana, 

Thanks for responding to this! I mean this box on the top left that shows the entry, or that you can type in to direct the resource to go to a word. When I highlight that to copy, it often crashes the app. I'm attaching the log. 

Also, the Notes Tool feels unfinished and unpolished. I find it is very clunky and aesthetically unappealing to me even though some of its features are nice - like tagging and anchoring. Notes tools like Notion or even MS OneNote are a pleasure to work in... Logos Notes - not so much. 

David Paul said:

I have noticed plenty of other users addressing issues in the forum that I have been noticing as well over the last couple of months related to the Note system. In a word, Notes are BROKEN...basic, fundamental word processing functions have vanished into the ether. Issues I have noticed include:

• footnotes and marginal notes failing to be copied along with body text
• total loss of basic wp data, such as indents, spacing, etc.
• copying of text failing to include the above coding
• fonts inlcuded in the note input window not displaying in the note pop-up
• erratic and unexplainable variations of serif and sans serif text in note pop-ups even though the text in note input window is uniformly sans serif.
• in the mobile app, some note pop-up windows refuse to scroll; I've even edited a note, then tried to open and scroll through the pop-up only for it to be "locked", meaning I can't scroll down to the Edit Note link to re-edit the note I just finished editing.
• availability of scrolling function in mobile app notes w/o similar function in desktop app
• other issues I know I'm overlooking

One of the totally BROKEN Notes features that has popped up since L9 exploded on my various systems affects all my Hebrew text. When the wp coding vanished (as mentioned in the above post), all of my Hebrew was reversed into a left-to-right orientation. To achieve the right-to-left orientation, I have to copy Logos text into Word (which can keep that orientation with the correct tweak), edit it, and then copy into my Logos Note files, which for some reason can accept the right-to-left orientation coming from Word, but not from within Logos itself. That is a time consuming process, and so at present, unless Logos fixes this ABSOLUTE DISASTER, I have lost hundreds of hours of work. One top of that, there is the problem mentioned above that all of my beautiful SBL Hebrew font has been unceremoniously transformed into a nearly illegible sans serif font. THIS MUST BE FIXED NOW.